Less Ram?

newatit27 · 02-28-2007, 04:40 AM

I have been using The computer in the signature for a while now, as my main gaming Pc but i Have never been completely satisfied. (slow downs and lag in places it should run fine) I believe its because I am using 4G of ram when it appears that that amount of ram can actually hinder performance instead of help. So do you guys think that if I took out 2G I may not see some of these problems. The ramm is only generic @ 533 and I can't OC at the moment because of my cooling. so really I am after suggestions to improve my ram situation.

bldgengineer · 02-28-2007, 05:06 AM

I think it sounds more of a bottleneck from the ram speed. its kinda like putting a yugo in the left lane of the autobahn.

newatit27 · 02-28-2007, 07:54 AM

so you think the fact that the ram is 533 is the problem?

bldgengineer · 03-01-2007, 01:55 PM

Are all the ram modules the same and being dual channeled? if not that would slow you down as well. what kind of ram is it?. The hypertransport in the cpu you're running is 2000mhz and the speed at which your ram is running is 533mhz. increasing ram speed would make a definate impact on the system. just out of curiousity, what is the latency and timing set at on your ram?

elitehacker · 03-01-2007, 03:15 PM

taking out 2GB of ram will not improve your performance.

**The_Other_One** · 03-01-2007, 03:22 PM

Actually it would, but probably not a very noticeable amount. It's all about the 1T/2T timings, where RAM is slower when there's more than one stick(or two in the case of dual channel)

However, I suspect it's another problem besides RAM. There's no harm in trying with just 2GB, but I think something else is causing your lags.

elitehacker · 03-01-2007, 03:26 PM

Well if ALL four stick are identical then there shouldn't be any problems with the CAS# latency and the such.

newatit27 · 03-01-2007, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Other_One

Actually it would, but probably not a very noticeable amount. It's all about the 1T/2T timings, where RAM is slower when there's more than one stick(or two in the case of dual channel)

However, I suspect it's another problem besides RAM. There's no harm in trying with just 2GB, but I think something else is causing your lags.

hmmmm..... I am pretty sure it is a ram issue because I tend to take good care oh my system spyware and virus wise. and all my other hardware components are good.

All four sticks of ram are Identical 4 x 1gb corsair value select PC2-4300 and as far as I can tell according to CPU-Z the ram is in dual channel .

OH and my HT is only at 1150.5MHZ not 2000 why is this? maybe because I oc the core to 2.5?

The timings are 4-4-4-12-15 when ram is at 266MHZ But when trying to fix this problem I OC my ram to 667 so its now at 361MHZ the problem is not as apparent now. is it safe to leave my ram at this frequency when it was rated at 266MHZ (However I did OC my Cpu as well that may have helped)

elitehacker · 03-01-2007, 11:09 PM

Have you tried SISandra to see how your ram compares with other similar setups.

newatit27 · 03-01-2007, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitehacker

Have you tried SISandra to see how your ram compares with other similar setups.

wow I had never seen that program before thanks for the pointer, what a great little program I did well against other setups but for some reason it rated my memory at 8187MB shouldn't 4G be about 4000MB

02-28-2007, 04:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
newatit27 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 83	Less Ram? I have been using The computer in the signature for a while now, as my main gaming Pc but i Have never been completely satisfied. (slow downs and lag in places it should run fine) I believe its because I am using 4G of ram when it appears that that amount of ram can actually hinder performance instead of help. So do you guys think that if I took out 2G I may not see some of these problems. The ramm is only generic @ 533 and I can't OC at the moment because of my cooling. so really I am after suggestions to improve my ram situation. __________________ CPU:AMD AM2 Athlon 64X2 4200+ @2.5GHZ RAM:2GB DDR2x2=4GB RAM HDD:320GB SATAII 16MB Cache GRAPHICS:1GB Nvidia GeForce 7950GX2 512MB POWER:Codegen 550Watt Server Grade supply DISPLAY:19" Wide LCD Flat Panel

02-28-2007, 05:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
bldgengineer Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 356	I think it sounds more of a bottleneck from the ram speed. its kinda like putting a yugo in the left lane of the autobahn. __________________ EVGA NF68-T1 680i SLI Pentium C2D e6600 Dual Channel G.Skill 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800Mhz Raptor 150GB (main) Seagate 320GB (storage) EVGA 8600GTS x2 SLI'd xClio Greatpower 550w 22" Chimei LCD widescreen

02-28-2007, 07:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
newatit27 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 83	so you think the fact that the ram is 533 is the problem? __________________ CPU:AMD AM2 Athlon 64X2 4200+ @2.5GHZ RAM:2GB DDR2x2=4GB RAM HDD:320GB SATAII 16MB Cache GRAPHICS:1GB Nvidia GeForce 7950GX2 512MB POWER:Codegen 550Watt Server Grade supply DISPLAY:19" Wide LCD Flat Panel

03-01-2007, 01:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
bldgengineer Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 356	Are all the ram modules the same and being dual channeled? if not that would slow you down as well. what kind of ram is it?. The hypertransport in the cpu you're running is 2000mhz and the speed at which your ram is running is 533mhz. increasing ram speed would make a definate impact on the system. just out of curiousity, what is the latency and timing set at on your ram? __________________ EVGA NF68-T1 680i SLI Pentium C2D e6600 Dual Channel G.Skill 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800Mhz Raptor 150GB (main) Seagate 320GB (storage) EVGA 8600GTS x2 SLI'd xClio Greatpower 550w 22" Chimei LCD widescreen

03-01-2007, 03:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 23 Posts: 12,368	Actually it would, but probably not a very noticeable amount. It's all about the 1T/2T timings, where RAM is slower when there's more than one stick(or two in the case of dual channel) However, I suspect it's another problem besides RAM. There's no harm in trying with just 2GB, but I think something else is causing your lags. __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100

03-01-2007, 03:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
elitehacker Diamond Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 2,413	taking out 2GB of ram will not improve your performance.

03-01-2007, 03:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
elitehacker Diamond Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 2,413	Well if ALL four stick are identical then there shouldn't be any problems with the CAS# latency and the such.

03-01-2007, 11:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
elitehacker Diamond Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 2,413	Have you tried SISandra to see how your ram compares with other similar setups.

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