Memory Standard ?

LE0O37 · 05-22-2007, 09:51 PM

I am looking to buy a new MOBO and need to know which one to pick.
Which Memory Standard is better ?

DDR2 800
DDR 400

Lemme' Know
thank you

**The_Other_One** · 05-22-2007, 09:59 PM

Well, considering DDR2 in general is faster, newer, more available, more standard, and typically cheaper...the choice is pretty clear

LE0O37 · 05-22-2007, 10:04 PM

I think I saw a DDR2 530 or something
So the DDR2 800 is better right ?
the higher the number the bettter

LE0O37 · 05-22-2007, 10:32 PM

Ok examples. You tell me what is better ?

DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5
-------------------or---------------------
DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5

I know the answer, but for $15 cheaper should I go w/ the 667 ?
No right

Does 800 and PC2 6400 make a noticable difference ?

**The_Other_One** · 05-22-2007, 10:36 PM

Technically 800's better, but most people would just recommend going with 667. The performance difference is minimal. If you search google, you can typically find benchmarks comparing these two standards.

INTELCRAZY · 05-22-2007, 10:57 PM

You can get 667 and "make it" 800 by overclocking. Saves $15, I would just buy the 800 and OC it up to 950 or with good ram 1100.

LE0O37 · 05-22-2007, 11:03 PM

GSkill DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-15 $86
A-Data DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-18 $86
WINTEC AMPX DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-15 $86
OCZ DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 4 Timing 4-4-4-15 $90
XMS DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-12 $93

Now these below are slightly different and cheaper

WINTEC DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $63
Corsair ValueSelect DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $70
Super Talent DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $81

Is there a big difference from 667 to 800 ?
Is there a big difference from PC2 5300 to 6400 ?

What is a better timing,a lower number like 4-4-4-15 is better than 5-5-5-15?
Does it really make a difference ?

Let me know, with this I will Decide
THANKS

INTELCRAZY · 05-22-2007, 11:09 PM

I would go with the XMS DDR2 800

4-4-4-15 is faster, It also matters if your mobo makes you use JEDEC compliant crap which is 5-5-5-15. Overclockers only need to worry about that. Corsair is doing well b/c of their memory's ways to be adaptive.

LE0O37 · 05-23-2007, 03:48 AM

I know your pick is the best pick.
But shouldn't I spend those extra $30 on a better CPU or MOBO instead of RAM ?
__________________________________________________ _______________
After alot of research on building a DUAL CORE Budget PC...........
THIS is my PICK and what I came up with so far.
Please make any suggestions on changes within the same price......
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU $69.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Brisbane 1.9GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
Specs
Brand AMD
Processors Type Desktop
Series Athlon 64 X2
Model ADO3600DDBOX
CPU Socket Type
CPU Socket Type Socket AM2
Tech Spec
Core Brisbane
Multi-Core Dual-Core
Name Athlon 64 X2 3600+
Operating Frequency 1.9GHz
HT 2000MHz
L1 Cache 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache 2 x 512KB
Manufacturing Tech 65 nm
64 bit Support Yes
Hyper-Transport Support Yes
Virtualization Technology Support Yes
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage 1.25/1.35V
Cooling Device Heatsink and Fan included
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

MOBO $44.

Foxconn MCP61VM2MA-RS2H Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Specs
Brand Foxconn
Model MCP61VM2MA-RS2H
Supported CPU
CPU Socket Type Socket AM2
CPU Type Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64
FSB 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)
Chipsets
North Bridge NVIDIA GeForce 6100
Memory
Number of Memory Slots 4×240pin
Memory Standard DDR2 800
Maximum Memory Supported 4GB
Dual Channel Supported Yes
Expansion Slots
AGP Slots None
PCI Express x16 1x PCI Express x16 (signals at x1)
PCI Express x1 1
PCI Slots 2
Storage Devices
PATA 1 x ATA100 up to 2 Devices
SATA 3Gb/s 2
SATA RAID 0/1
Onboard Video
Onboard Video Chipset NVIDIA GeForce 6100
Onboard Audio
Audio Chipset Realtek ALC861
Audio Channels 6 Channels
Onboard LAN
LAN Chipset Realtek PHY
Max LAN Speed 10/100Mbps
Rear Panel Ports
PS/2 2
COM 1
LPT 1
Video Ports D-Sub
USB 4 x USB 2.0
Audio Ports 3 Ports
Onboard USB
Onboard USB 2 x USB 2.0 headers support 4 ports
Physical Spec
Form Factor Micro ATX
Dimensions 9.6" x 9.6"
Features
Power Pin 24 Pin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

You see my CPU and MOBO are very cheap, but good....
Should I really spend almost twice that on RAM alone ?
The memory standard on my MOBO is DDR2 800, will anything lower work ?
Let me know guys, RAM is all I am missing ?

Thanks

LE0O37 · 05-23-2007, 08:42 PM

Would this RAM be a good choice for my settup, above.
WINTEC DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $63

Let me know
Thanks

05-22-2007, 09:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
LE0O37 Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 268	Memory Standard ? I am looking to buy a new MOBO and need to know which one to pick. Which Memory Standard is better ? DDR2 800 DDR 400 Lemme' Know thank you

05-22-2007, 09:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 23 Posts: 12,364	Well, considering DDR2 in general is faster, newer, more available, more standard, and typically cheaper...the choice is pretty clear __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100

05-22-2007, 10:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 23 Posts: 12,364	Technically 800's better, but most people would just recommend going with 667. The performance difference is minimal. If you search google, you can typically find benchmarks comparing these two standards. __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100 Last edited by The_Other_One; 05-22-2007 at 10:38 PM.

05-22-2007, 11:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
LE0O37 Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 268	Which one is better ? GSkill DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-15 $86 A-Data DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-18 $86 WINTEC AMPX DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-15 $86 OCZ DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 4 Timing 4-4-4-15 $90 XMS DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-12 $93 Now these below are slightly different and cheaper WINTEC DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $63 Corsair ValueSelect DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $70 Super Talent DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $81 Is there a big difference from 667 to 800 ? Is there a big difference from PC2 5300 to 6400 ? What is a better timing,a lower number like 4-4-4-15 is better than 5-5-5-15? Does it really make a difference ? Let me know, with this I will Decide THANKS

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05-22-2007, 10:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
LE0O37 Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 268	I think I saw a DDR2 530 or something So the DDR2 800 is better right ? the higher the number the bettter

05-22-2007, 10:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
LE0O37 Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 268	Ok examples. You tell me what is better ? DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 -------------------or--------------------- DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5 I know the answer, but for $15 cheaper should I go w/ the 667 ? No right Does 800 and PC2 6400 make a noticable difference ?

05-22-2007, 10:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
INTELCRAZY banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,060	You can get 667 and "make it" 800 by overclocking. Saves $15, I would just buy the 800 and OC it up to 950 or with good ram 1100.

05-22-2007, 11:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
INTELCRAZY banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,060	I would go with the XMS DDR2 800 4-4-4-15 is faster, It also matters if your mobo makes you use JEDEC compliant crap which is 5-5-5-15. Overclockers only need to worry about that. Corsair is doing well b/c of their memory's ways to be adaptive.

05-23-2007, 03:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
LE0O37 Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 268	I know your pick is the best pick. But shouldn't I spend those extra $30 on a better CPU or MOBO instead of RAM ? __________________________________________________ _______________ After alot of research on building a DUAL CORE Budget PC........... THIS is my PICK and what I came up with so far. Please make any suggestions on changes within the same price...... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU $69. AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Brisbane 1.9GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail Specs Brand AMD Processors Type Desktop Series Athlon 64 X2 Model ADO3600DDBOX CPU Socket Type CPU Socket Type Socket AM2 Tech Spec Core Brisbane Multi-Core Dual-Core Name Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Operating Frequency 1.9GHz HT 2000MHz L1 Cache 128KB+128KB L2 Cache 2 x 512KB Manufacturing Tech 65 nm 64 bit Support Yes Hyper-Transport Support Yes Virtualization Technology Support Yes Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional Voltage 1.25/1.35V Cooling Device Heatsink and Fan included -------------------------------------------------------------------------- MOBO $44. Foxconn MCP61VM2MA-RS2H Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Specs Brand Foxconn Model MCP61VM2MA-RS2H Supported CPU CPU Socket Type Socket AM2 CPU Type Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 FSB 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s) Chipsets North Bridge NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Memory Number of Memory Slots 4×240pin Memory Standard DDR2 800 Maximum Memory Supported 4GB Dual Channel Supported Yes Expansion Slots AGP Slots None PCI Express x16 1x PCI Express x16 (signals at x1) PCI Express x1 1 PCI Slots 2 Storage Devices PATA 1 x ATA100 up to 2 Devices SATA 3Gb/s 2 SATA RAID 0/1 Onboard Video Onboard Video Chipset NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Onboard Audio Audio Chipset Realtek ALC861 Audio Channels 6 Channels Onboard LAN LAN Chipset Realtek PHY Max LAN Speed 10/100Mbps Rear Panel Ports PS/2 2 COM 1 LPT 1 Video Ports D-Sub USB 4 x USB 2.0 Audio Ports 3 Ports Onboard USB Onboard USB 2 x USB 2.0 headers support 4 ports Physical Spec Form Factor Micro ATX Dimensions 9.6" x 9.6" Features Power Pin 24 Pin -------------------------------------------------------------------------- You see my CPU and MOBO are very cheap, but good.... Should I really spend almost twice that on RAM alone ? The memory standard on my MOBO is DDR2 800, will anything lower work ? Let me know guys, RAM is all I am missing ? Thanks

05-23-2007, 08:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
LE0O37 Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 268	Would this RAM be a good choice for my settup, above. WINTEC DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $63 Let me know Thanks

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