Are Core 2 Duo's better even without overclocking?

PC eye · 06-26-2007, 11:23 PM

He wasn't referring to the 5600+ there quote: "At stock E6600 performs as good or even better than 6000+". While C2 Duos are getting better gaming reviews that's a much larger gap seen between the 5600+ and 6000+ models. You have to come back to earth a little there and face reality. That would be kind of like saying the Atholon 3500+ single core 2.2ghz cpu here would take on a Core 2 Extreme. It's just not going to happen.

[-0MEGA-] · 06-26-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PC eye

He wasn't referring to the 5600+ there quote: "At stock E6600 performs as good or even better than 6000+". While C2 Duos are getting better gaming reviews that's a much larger gap seen between the 5600+ and 6000+ models. You have to come back to earth a little there and face reality. That would be kind of like saying the Atholon 3500+ single core 2.2ghz cpu here would take on a Core 2 Extreme. It's just not going to happen.

I know, I was saying that the E6400 performs similarly to the 5600+, now the E6600 to the 6000+.

StrangleHold · 06-27-2007, 01:24 AM

At (stock) speeds I think you all are over estimating the E6400, I think its more in line with the X2 5000-5200. Theres a few benchmarks that the X2 4600-4800 does as well. I think the X2 5400-5600 is sorta in a no man's land between the E6400 and E6600. The X2 6000 and the E6600 is a pretty good match with a slight edge to the E6600.

PC eye · 06-27-2007, 01:52 AM

With an E6600 you are then closing the gap to the 6000+ there. That's the gaming edge AMD did have and now has to work on to recover. For multitasking I still favor AMD in that area. They've now had plenty of time to work out any initial bugs seen with their dual core models.

Jet · 06-27-2007, 01:58 AM

In general, the E6600=6000+. Even though you don't know much about computers now, you will down the road. I thought I'd never overclock two years ago, and now, I am all for overclocking. With the Core 2 Duo series, it is pointless to not overclock.

Just get the E6600 or E6420, you'll be happy with the performance, and you'll be really glad you got it when you want to play with overclocking in a few months.

PC eye · 06-27-2007, 02:17 AM

While the newer model cpus are far easier to oc one thing to keep in mind is having adequate cooling. The newer models also have a lower temp max then seen with the old P4s and AMD Socket A types. Instead of seeing a 85-90C max you now see about 60-70C.

Two popular cpu coolers used by those that oc alot are the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 along with the older Freezer64 Pro and the Zalman CNPS 9500 models for 3rd party coolers. Generally the stock hsf if you buy the cpu retail will work within the normal temp ranges if you go strictly stock.

lhoney2 · 06-27-2007, 12:29 PM

You can always go to a site like http://www.tomshardware.com and look at the CPU benchmarks for yourself...

I happened to get a good package deal at Newegg that saved me alot on my CPU/RAM, plus I'm partial to AMD anyway. All things being equal, I'd probably take the 6600 over the 6000+.

maroon1 · 06-27-2007, 12:32 PM

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At (stock) speeds I think you all are over estimating the E6400, I think its more in line with the X2 5000-5200. Theres a few benchmarks that the X2 4600-4800 does as well. I think the X2 5400-5600 is sorta in a no man's land between the E6400 and E6600. The X2 6000 and the E6600 is a pretty good match with a slight edge to the E6600.

I agree with you

5600+ outperforms E6400, I think it is more comparable to E6420

PC eye · 06-28-2007, 02:58 AM

It takes a little more then just a cpu to make a performance build. You can have the same make and model cpu on different systems and see some large differences in benchmarks. Your total hardware as well as software environments also have to be weighed in.

hermeslyre · 06-28-2007, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PC eye

It takes a little more then just a cpu to make a performance build. You can have the same make and model cpu on different systems and see some large differences in benchmarks. Your total hardware as well as software environments also have to be weighed in.

But still, the C2d's are alittle better than X2's. Sure you can have a 5400+ build outperform an e6600 build.. If you gave the E6600 a shitty motherboard, bad RAM, slow HDD, etc.

06-26-2007, 11:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	He wasn't referring to the 5600+ there quote: "At stock E6600 performs as good or even better than 6000+". While C2 Duos are getting better gaming reviews that's a much larger gap seen between the 5600+ and 6000+ models. You have to come back to earth a little there and face reality. That would be kind of like saying the Atholon 3500+ single core 2.2ghz cpu here would take on a Core 2 Extreme. It's just not going to happen. __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

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StrangleHold Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: And you think your safe! Posts: 8,139	At (stock) speeds I think you all are over estimating the E6400, I think its more in line with the X2 5000-5200. Theres a few benchmarks that the X2 4600-4800 does as well. I think the X2 5400-5600 is sorta in a no man's land between the E6400 and E6600. The X2 6000 and the E6600 is a pretty good match with a slight edge to the E6600. __________________ NZXT Apollo Phenom 8750BE 3.0ghz. Gigabyte GA MA770 DS3 G Skill DDR2 1066 4gb. PNY 8800GT/VD964 W/D RE2 Sata 3.0 500gb. Life's tough, hit them in the throat and move on.

06-27-2007, 01:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	With an E6600 you are then closing the gap to the 6000+ there. That's the gaming edge AMD did have and now has to work on to recover. For multitasking I still favor AMD in that area. They've now had plenty of time to work out any initial bugs seen with their dual core models. __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

06-27-2007, 01:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jet Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,314	In general, the E6600=6000+. Even though you don't know much about computers now, you will down the road. I thought I'd never overclock two years ago, and now, I am all for overclocking. With the Core 2 Duo series, it is pointless to not overclock. Just get the E6600 or E6420, you'll be happy with the performance, and you'll be really glad you got it when you want to play with overclocking in a few months. __________________ Macbook/Intel Core Duo 1.83Ghz/2GB DDR2 667/60GB HD/OSX 10.4.11/160GB 3.5" Firewire External/160GB Maxtor One Touch 4 Mini External/

06-27-2007, 02:17 AM	#16 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	While the newer model cpus are far easier to oc one thing to keep in mind is having adequate cooling. The newer models also have a lower temp max then seen with the old P4s and AMD Socket A types. Instead of seeing a 85-90C max you now see about 60-70C. Two popular cpu coolers used by those that oc alot are the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 along with the older Freezer64 Pro and the Zalman CNPS 9500 models for 3rd party coolers. Generally the stock hsf if you buy the cpu retail will work within the normal temp ranges if you go strictly stock. __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

06-27-2007, 12:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
lhoney2 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 98	You can always go to a site like http://www.tomshardware.com and look at the CPU benchmarks for yourself... I happened to get a good package deal at Newegg that saved me alot on my CPU/RAM, plus I'm partial to AMD anyway. All things being equal, I'd probably take the 6600 over the 6000+. __________________ 1. XP 6000+, 8600GT, 2GB, Vista 64 2. XP 3800+, 7600GT, 1GB, XP Home 3. XP 2200+, 9800 PRO, 1GB, Ubuntu

06-28-2007, 02:58 AM	#19 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	It takes a little more then just a cpu to make a performance build. You can have the same make and model cpu on different systems and see some large differences in benchmarks. Your total hardware as well as software environments also have to be weighed in. __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

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