Are Core 2 Duo's better even without overclocking?

oregon · 06-25-2007, 01:45 AM

I'm looking into buying/building a new computer. I'm kind of a noob with regards to computer hardware, so I'd rather not overclock. With that in mind, are Core 2 Duo's still better than AMD's? Even if they have lower clockspeeds? For example, the AMD 64X2 5400 is about equivalent to the Intel core 2 6600, but the AMD is 2.8GHz, the Intel is 2.13. Even at these speeds, are the Intels still better? What percentage better are the Intels?

INTELCRAZY · 06-25-2007, 01:59 AM

Do you mean E6420? AMD is trying Intel's old tricks, jacking up the advertised speed. The Intel is probably better and more future proof, the Intel has twice the cache with the E6400 and 4 time the cache with the E6420.

PC eye · 06-25-2007, 02:49 AM

The AMD64 6000+ X2 3ghz model now on order will probably end up ringing circles around the Core 2 E6600 at 2.13ghz without problem while generally the Core2 Duos are getting better reviews for gaming. But don't think for a moment that AMD won't make a comeback to regain their performance edge at some point. The two companies are always trying to outperform the other.

In fact in a recent hour of the weekly CBS series 60 MINUTES the segment on "What If Every Child Had A Laptop?" brought out a critism of Intel trying to "dump" laptops for below cost when a non profit group was started to provide laptops for kids where there are no schools in poor countries. The laptops just happen to use AMD cpus. The brief and video clip on this can be seen at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2830058.shtml

kof2000 · 06-25-2007, 02:54 AM

if you dont overclock then amd is the way to go. they have 3ghz at reasonable price.

PC eye · 06-25-2007, 03:34 AM

Here I was looking at both dual and quad core models that run upto 3ghz when going to replace the 2.22ghz single core model in use for a new work horse build. For an AMD quad core model the board cost as much as the cpu plus being a twin cpu model not a one cpu type board. A server board with SLI doesn't make it here. The double leap in stock speed and having a second core for multitasking would be the gain here. With the gap between the two models mentioned being that large in stock speed the AMD does stand out even for gaming.

oregon · 06-25-2007, 07:33 PM

Thanks for all the responses guys. I think I'll go with an AMD afterall.

[-0MEGA-] · 06-25-2007, 07:45 PM

The AMD X2's are decent for the price, and both perform roughly the same at stock speeds. But you also have to consider the prices and options for motherboards, and other accessories, when comparing AMD and Intel.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=433&chart=165
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=433&chart=168
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=433&chart=167

maroon1 · 06-25-2007, 08:12 PM

Quote:

AMD 64X2 5400 is about equivalent to the Intel core 2 6600,

Thats incorrect.

At stock E6600 performs as good or even better than 6000+

PC eye · 06-26-2007, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maroon1

Thats incorrect.

At stock E6600 performs as good or even better than 6000+

Don't count on it. It takes more then the cpu alone to make a good performance build.

[-0MEGA-] · 06-26-2007, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC eye

Don't count on it. It takes more then the cpu alone to make a good performance build.

Maroon is right, the E6400 is on par with the X2 5600+ in terms of CPU performance.

06-25-2007, 01:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
oregon Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: portland, oregon Age: 18 Posts: 1,126	Are Core 2 Duo's better even without overclocking? I'm looking into buying/building a new computer. I'm kind of a noob with regards to computer hardware, so I'd rather not overclock. With that in mind, are Core 2 Duo's still better than AMD's? Even if they have lower clockspeeds? For example, the AMD 64X2 5400 is about equivalent to the Intel core 2 6600, but the AMD is 2.8GHz, the Intel is 2.13. Even at these speeds, are the Intels still better? What percentage better are the Intels?

06-25-2007, 02:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	The AMD64 6000+ X2 3ghz model now on order will probably end up ringing circles around the Core 2 E6600 at 2.13ghz without problem while generally the Core2 Duos are getting better reviews for gaming. But don't think for a moment that AMD won't make a comeback to regain their performance edge at some point. The two companies are always trying to outperform the other. In fact in a recent hour of the weekly CBS series 60 MINUTES the segment on "What If Every Child Had A Laptop?" brought out a critism of Intel trying to "dump" laptops for below cost when a non profit group was started to provide laptops for kids where there are no schools in poor countries. The laptops just happen to use AMD cpus. The brief and video clip on this can be seen at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2830058.shtml __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

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06-25-2007, 03:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	Here I was looking at both dual and quad core models that run upto 3ghz when going to replace the 2.22ghz single core model in use for a new work horse build. For an AMD quad core model the board cost as much as the cpu plus being a twin cpu model not a one cpu type board. A server board with SLI doesn't make it here. The double leap in stock speed and having a second core for multitasking would be the gain here. With the gap between the two models mentioned being that large in stock speed the AMD does stand out even for gaming. __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

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[-0MEGA-] VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Concord, NH Age: 20 Posts: 27,447	The AMD X2's are decent for the price, and both perform roughly the same at stock speeds. But you also have to consider the prices and options for motherboards, and other accessories, when comparing AMD and Intel. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=433&chart=165 http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=433&chart=168 http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=433&chart=167 __________________ Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.1GHz Asus Rampage Formula X48 ATI 4870X2 2GB GDDR5 (800/1900) 4GB (2x 2GB) DDR2 960 (6-6-6-18) 750GB SATAII w/32MB Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty SilverStone 750W +12V@60A 3DMark06: 22605

06-25-2007, 01:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
INTELCRAZY banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,060	Do you mean E6420? AMD is trying Intel's old tricks, jacking up the advertised speed. The Intel is probably better and more future proof, the Intel has twice the cache with the E6400 and 4 time the cache with the E6420.

06-25-2007, 07:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
oregon Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: portland, oregon Age: 18 Posts: 1,126	Thanks for all the responses guys. I think I'll go with an AMD afterall.

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