Buying a new computer, is this a good deal?

oregon · 06-25-2007, 01:56 AM

I saw this combo deal at Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883102029

Here's the specs:

General Spec
Brand ABS
Series ULTIMATE
Model I-Spirit 6420LC
Recommended Usage Gaming
Processor Intel Core 2 Duo E6420(2.13GHz)
Processor Main Features 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Cache Per Processor 4MB
Memory 2GB DDR2 667
Hard Drive 250GB SATA2 7200rpm
Optical Drive 1 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 8500GT 256MB
Audio Realtek ALC888
Ethernet Marvell 88E8001
Power Supply COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS-430-PMSR/P 430W Power Supply
Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium
Special Features COOLER MASTER AQUAGATE VIVA RL-M4A-E7E1-GP Liquid Cooling System
Motherboard
Chipset Intel 945GZ
Motherboard Name GIGABYTE GA-945GZM-S2
CPU
CPU Type Core 2 Duo
Installed Qty 1
CPU FSB 1066MHz
CPU Speed E6420(2.13GHz)
L2 Cache Per CPU 4MB
CPU Socket Type LGA 775
CPU Main Features 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Graphics
GPU/VPU Type NVIDIA GeForce 8500GT
Graphics Interface PCI Express x16
Memory
Memory Capacity 2GB DDR2
Memory Speed DDR2 667
Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
Memory Spec 1GB x 2
Memory Slots (Available/Total) 2
Maximum Memory Supported 2GB
Hard Drive
HD Capacity 250GB
HD Interface SATA
HD RPM 7200rpm
HD Spec with 16M Cache
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD±RW
Optical Drive Spec 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
Audio
Audio Chipset Realtek ALC888
Audio Channels 8 channels
Communications
LAN Chipset Marvell 88E8001
LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
Front Panel Ports
Front USB 2
Front Audio Ports 2
Back Panel Ports
COM 1
LPT 1
PS/2 2
VGA 1 VGA, 1 DVI
Rear USB 4
RJ45 1 port
Rear Audio Ports 6 ports
Expansion
External Bays 5 x External 5.25" Drive Bays
1 x External 3.5" Drive Bay
Internal Bays 4 x Internal 3.5" Drive Bays
PCI Slots (Available/Total) 1 x PCI Express x16 (signals at x4)
3 x PCI Slots
Physical Spec
Dimensions 18.9" x 8" x 17.2"
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 year limited
Labor 1 year limited

It's only 1200 with a 22" monitor, so I though it looked like a good deal. Basically I'll use it for gaming as well as the usual internet, email, word-processing etc. I've never built a computer either, so I would much rather buy a combo than build. I have a few questions about it though. First off, which are the "weakest links"? I already know 430W on the power supply is kinda low, but are there any other components that will need upgrading, or just aren't suitable? Also, will I be able to upgrade all the parts in the future, or will there be issues with compatibility? My final questions are... will I be able to add a TV tuner, a bluetooth chip, and a firewire port?

Thanks in advance for your help,
Matt

INTELCRAZY · 06-25-2007, 02:00 AM

It looks pretty good, if you plan on gaming that 667Mhz RAM will bottleneck a bit. I would also suggest a better Gfx card, that card is new and DX10 hasn't had time to settle and that card is about equivalent to a 7600GT. There's better out there

kof2000 · 06-25-2007, 02:11 AM

thats pretty good for a liquid cooling pc.

and since the cpu is water cooled you can try overclock the hell out of it

oregon · 06-25-2007, 02:16 AM

Okay, thanks for the feedback. As to the power supply, will it definitely need upgrading?

kof2000 · 06-25-2007, 02:22 AM

theres no need to upgrade the psu since the 8500 isnt that demanding and if you read the reviews you can only upgrade the remaining pci slot and the memory.

chupacabra · 06-25-2007, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kof2000

theres no need to upgrade the psu since the 8500 isnt that demanding and if you read the reviews you can only upgrade the remaining pci slot and the memory.

The psu that comes with the case is crap, it only has 19amps on the 12V@ rail >_>, That computer isn't worth the extra cash since for around 1000$ you can get the same thing including the monitor of 22" yea even the set of water cooling

oregon · 06-25-2007, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kof2000

theres no need to upgrade the psu since the 8500 isnt that demanding and if you read the reviews you can only upgrade the remaining pci slot and the memory.

So essentially you can't upgrade this computer?

chupacabra · 06-25-2007, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oregon

So essentially you can't upgrade this computer?

You can, but what he meant is that isn't necessary as with what it has right now on it, but if you upgraded the video card or something else then yes you would need a new psu

INTELCRAZY · 06-25-2007, 09:53 AM

What do you plan on using this PC for? We can better justify it's compatibility.

06-25-2007, 01:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
oregon Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: portland, oregon Age: 18 Posts: 1,126	Buying a new computer, is this a good deal? I saw this combo deal at Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883102029 Here's the specs: General Spec Brand ABS Series ULTIMATE Model I-Spirit 6420LC Recommended Usage Gaming Processor Intel Core 2 Duo E6420(2.13GHz) Processor Main Features 64 bit Dual Core Processor Cache Per Processor 4MB Memory 2GB DDR2 667 Hard Drive 250GB SATA2 7200rpm Optical Drive 1 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 8500GT 256MB Audio Realtek ALC888 Ethernet Marvell 88E8001 Power Supply COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS-430-PMSR/P 430W Power Supply Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium Special Features COOLER MASTER AQUAGATE VIVA RL-M4A-E7E1-GP Liquid Cooling System Motherboard Chipset Intel 945GZ Motherboard Name GIGABYTE GA-945GZM-S2 CPU CPU Type Core 2 Duo Installed Qty 1 CPU FSB 1066MHz CPU Speed E6420(2.13GHz) L2 Cache Per CPU 4MB CPU Socket Type LGA 775 CPU Main Features 64 bit Dual Core Processor Graphics GPU/VPU Type NVIDIA GeForce 8500GT Graphics Interface PCI Express x16 Memory Memory Capacity 2GB DDR2 Memory Speed DDR2 667 Form Factor DIMM 240-pin Memory Spec 1GB x 2 Memory Slots (Available/Total) 2 Maximum Memory Supported 2GB Hard Drive HD Capacity 250GB HD Interface SATA HD RPM 7200rpm HD Spec with 16M Cache Optical Drive Optical Drive Type DVD±RW Optical Drive Spec 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Audio Audio Chipset Realtek ALC888 Audio Channels 8 channels Communications LAN Chipset Marvell 88E8001 LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps Front Panel Ports Front USB 2 Front Audio Ports 2 Back Panel Ports COM 1 LPT 1 PS/2 2 VGA 1 VGA, 1 DVI Rear USB 4 RJ45 1 port Rear Audio Ports 6 ports Expansion External Bays 5 x External 5.25" Drive Bays 1 x External 3.5" Drive Bay Internal Bays 4 x Internal 3.5" Drive Bays PCI Slots (Available/Total) 1 x PCI Express x16 (signals at x4) 3 x PCI Slots Physical Spec Dimensions 18.9" x 8" x 17.2" Manufacturer Warranty Parts 1 year limited Labor 1 year limited It's only 1200 with a 22" monitor, so I though it looked like a good deal. Basically I'll use it for gaming as well as the usual internet, email, word-processing etc. I've never built a computer either, so I would much rather buy a combo than build. I have a few questions about it though. First off, which are the "weakest links"? I already know 430W on the power supply is kinda low, but are there any other components that will need upgrading, or just aren't suitable? Also, will I be able to upgrade all the parts in the future, or will there be issues with compatibility? My final questions are... will I be able to add a TV tuner, a bluetooth chip, and a firewire port? Thanks in advance for your help, Matt

06-25-2007, 02:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
INTELCRAZY banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,060	It looks pretty good, if you plan on gaming that 667Mhz RAM will bottleneck a bit. I would also suggest a better Gfx card, that card is new and DX10 hasn't had time to settle and that card is about equivalent to a 7600GT. There's better out there Last edited by INTELCRAZY; 06-25-2007 at 02:05 AM.

06-25-2007, 02:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
kof2000 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oahu Age: 27 Posts: 6,273	thats pretty good for a liquid cooling pc. and since the cpu is water cooled you can try overclock the hell out of it __________________ QX9650@4.2 swiftech \|9600@3.0 9700 nt 780i \| 790fx 8gb ddr1200 \| 8gb ddr1200 2x150gb 3x1tb \|2x250gb 3x8800gtx \|3x2900xt 1gb 2x20xdvdrw \|2x20xdvdrw 15in1 card reader \|15in1 card reader ng15/g9 \|ng15/g9 1200w psu \|1200w psu 2x28" LCD \|2x28" LCD Last edited by kof2000; 06-25-2007 at 02:15 AM.

06-25-2007, 02:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
kof2000 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oahu Age: 27 Posts: 6,273	theres no need to upgrade the psu since the 8500 isnt that demanding and if you read the reviews you can only upgrade the remaining pci slot and the memory. __________________ QX9650@4.2 swiftech \|9600@3.0 9700 nt 780i \| 790fx 8gb ddr1200 \| 8gb ddr1200 2x150gb 3x1tb \|2x250gb 3x8800gtx \|3x2900xt 1gb 2x20xdvdrw \|2x20xdvdrw 15in1 card reader \|15in1 card reader ng15/g9 \|ng15/g9 1200w psu \|1200w psu 2x28" LCD \|2x28" LCD

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06-25-2007, 02:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
oregon Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: portland, oregon Age: 18 Posts: 1,126	Okay, thanks for the feedback. As to the power supply, will it definitely need upgrading?

06-25-2007, 09:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
INTELCRAZY banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,060	What do you plan on using this PC for? We can better justify it's compatibility.

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