Math question.

alexandergre · 06-25-2007, 06:30 PM

Hi,
I do not think that we(human) can answer to this question.
so I need a computer program.
Here is the question:

Code:

(Q)If I enter this number:      96111099
(A)I get this number:           62613058

(Q)If I enter this number:      95302199
(A)I get this number:           26525393

(Q)If I enter this number:      97941616
(A)I get this number:           01171920

(Q)If I enter this number:      96369691
(A)What is the answer?          xxxxxxxx

what is the relation/connection between (Q) and (A)?
Is there any computer program which can answer to this question???

Regards,

Alexandergre.

patrickv · 06-25-2007, 07:40 PM

confused men, honestly am a low-low in maths, never studied it, never liked it...this just gives me more passion to hate maths...lol

JustinMcG67 · 06-25-2007, 07:41 PM

Subtract the differences between each number...

monoman · 06-25-2007, 08:20 PM

This is some kind of encryption? If so the possibilities are pretty much endless I would have thought, and could go way beyond simple mathematical operators(+-/*). There could be any number of not-so-obvious numerical patterns used. Then again the answer could be staring us in the face.

I would say it's probably not impossible for a human mind to figure out, but with the power of computing it would most likely be a lot quicker and easier...

ducis · 06-25-2007, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinMcG67

Subtract the differences between each number...

lol that will always work with any combination!

plus you need to know both numbers to do that

alexandergre · 06-26-2007, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monoman

This is some kind of encryption? If so the possibilities are pretty much endless I would have thought, and could go way beyond simple mathematical operators(+-/*). There could be any number of not-so-obvious numerical patterns used. Then again the answer could be staring us in the face.

I would say it's probably not impossible for a human mind to figure out, but with the power of computing it would most likely be a lot quicker and easier...

I am searching for the answer in several days but nothing which could mean something.
Maybe you are right. Human can answer to this question but we need some brain and some month's. I am sure there is a relation between Q and A. And it is very hard to find. They dont go way beyond simple mathematical operators(+-/*). It could be anything. I think they are some kind of math formula which are very advanced and me, at this age I do not even know their names.

What is the secret about this numbers????

i dont know. But i will find out.

I have also posted this question to several others math forums. No answer yet!

12-Gauge · 06-26-2007, 02:29 PM

I worked it out to be 213,846,402.

Took the numbers and worked out the differences between the numbers. Got the following:

33498041
68776806
96769696

Then worked out the differences between the differences

35278765
27992890

Then the difference between them.

7285875

I then went about working out the next number.

27992890 + 7285875 = 20707015

20707015 + 96769696 = 117476711

117476711 + 96369691 = 213846402

Unfortunately this method usually only works with sequences. It is not specified whether or not the numbers are sequential.

m0nk3ys1ms · 06-26-2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12-Gauge

I worked it out to be 213,846,402.

Took the numbers and worked out the differences between the numbers. Got the following:

33498041
68776806
96769696

Then worked out the differences between the differences

35278765
27992890

Then the difference between them.

7285875

I then went about working out the next number.

27992890 + 7285875 = 20707015

20707015 + 96769696 = 117476711

117476711 + 96369691 = 213846402

Unfortunately this method usually only works with sequences. It is not specified whether or not the numbers are sequential.

He's good, lol...

alexandergre · 06-26-2007, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12-Gauge

I worked it out to be 213,846,402.

Took the numbers and worked out the differences between the numbers. Got the following:

33498041
68776806
96769696

Then worked out the differences between the differences

35278765
27992890

Then the difference between them.

7285875

I then went about working out the next number.

27992890 + 7285875 = 20707015

20707015 + 96769696 = 117476711

117476711 + 96369691 = 213846402

Unfortunately this method usually only works with sequences. It is not specified whether or not the numbers are sequential.

thank you very much for your effort.Bt the answer is wrong. Your answer is 213846402. It is wrong because the answer MUST be just 8 numbers.

Something interesting i found out:
the Q numbers always begin with 9. so that means that you can leave the number 9 and work with rest of numbers.

(It doesn't work, i tried now and nothing.)

I will find it.

monoman · 06-26-2007, 11:35 PM

Do you mind me asking what the application of this problem is?

If it is some kind of computer encryption, then there are so many possibilities of what it could be. If it is then the relationship would be between the input and output alone and not between each of the inputs wouldn't it?

For example it could be something like this:
INPUT = A
to get the OUTPUT...

First take the first three digits of A and square them
(If answer > 250000,
then add 5000,
else subtract 5000)
swap the last 2 digits with the first 2 digits*
multiply by 50
subtract answer from A
OUTPUT

Already the relationship involves multiple numerical patterns that would be very unobvious to someone trying to crack it. *For example what if you swap the last 2 digits with with digits 3 and 4 instead or swap the first 3 digits with the last 3 digits at this stage.

I'm sure there are programs out there which will evaluate it much more quickly and efficiently given a set of parameters at the start, if you know where to look, but I'm not sure about the legitimacy of such programs either unfortunately.

06-25-2007, 06:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
alexandergre Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 18 Posts: 805	Math question. Hi, I do not think that we(human) can answer to this question. so I need a computer program. Here is the question: Code: (Q)If I enter this number: 96111099 (A)I get this number: 62613058 (Q)If I enter this number: 95302199 (A)I get this number: 26525393 (Q)If I enter this number: 97941616 (A)I get this number: 01171920 (Q)If I enter this number: 96369691 (A)What is the answer? xxxxxxxx what is the relation/connection between (Q) and (A)? Is there any computer program which can answer to this question??? Regards, Alexandergre.

06-25-2007, 07:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
patrickv Diamond Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Soul Chamber Posts: 5,562	confused men, honestly am a low-low in maths, never studied it, never liked it...this just gives me more passion to hate maths...lol __________________ Laptop: Thinkpad X60: Core2Duo T7200 @ 2Ghz,1GB DDR2,110GB SATA -winXP ProSP2 Work Desktop: Core Duo E2180 @ 2Ghz,1.5GB DDR2,240GB HD - XP PRO SP2

06-25-2007, 07:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
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06-25-2007, 08:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
monoman Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: B'ham UK Posts: 458	This is some kind of encryption? If so the possibilities are pretty much endless I would have thought, and could go way beyond simple mathematical operators(+-/*). There could be any number of not-so-obvious numerical patterns used. Then again the answer could be staring us in the face. I would say it's probably not impossible for a human mind to figure out, but with the power of computing it would most likely be a lot quicker and easier... __________________ -Chance favours the prepared mind! -Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love. -Reality.sys corrupt. reboot universe? Y/N Unmediated - Future Prophecy

06-26-2007, 02:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
12-Gauge Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Age: 17 Posts: 685	I worked it out to be 213,846,402. Took the numbers and worked out the differences between the numbers. Got the following: 33498041 68776806 96769696 Then worked out the differences between the differences 35278765 27992890 Then the difference between them. 7285875 I then went about working out the next number. 27992890 + 7285875 = 20707015 20707015 + 96769696 = 117476711 117476711 + 96369691 = 213846402 Unfortunately this method usually only works with sequences. It is not specified whether or not the numbers are sequential. __________________ BLANK CPU: AMD Athlon X2 6000 MBD: ASUS M2N4-SLI NF4 GFX: Leadtek 7900GS 256MB RAM: 2x1GB DDR2-533 STEAM: Pyrofreezer PSN: BattleScars Last edited by 12-Gauge; 06-26-2007 at 02:35 PM.

06-26-2007, 11:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
monoman Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: B'ham UK Posts: 458	Do you mind me asking what the application of this problem is? If it is some kind of computer encryption, then there are so many possibilities of what it could be. If it is then the relationship would be between the input and output alone and not between each of the inputs wouldn't it? For example it could be something like this: INPUT = A to get the OUTPUT... First take the first three digits of A and square them (If answer > 250000, then add 5000, else subtract 5000) swap the last 2 digits with the first 2 digits* multiply by 50 subtract answer from A OUTPUT Already the relationship involves multiple numerical patterns that would be very unobvious to someone trying to crack it. *For example what if you swap the last 2 digits with with digits 3 and 4 instead or swap the first 3 digits with the last 3 digits at this stage. I'm sure there are programs out there which will evaluate it much more quickly and efficiently given a set of parameters at the start, if you know where to look, but I'm not sure about the legitimacy of such programs either unfortunately. __________________ -Chance favours the prepared mind! -Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love. -Reality.sys corrupt. reboot universe? Y/N Unmediated - Future Prophecy

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