ComputerForum.com ComputerForum.com  
TigerDirect
 
Go Back   Computer Forum > Computer Hardware > Motherboards

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-12-2007, 12:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
New Member
 
citizensmurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 7
Default New Build, Mobo Dead?

Here's what I put together (everything new):

MSI 945GM3-F (onboard video)
Core 2 Duo E6550
Kingston ValueRam 2x1GB PC2-5300
Antec Earthwatts 500W

Also have DVD writer, HD and Video Card, but from what I read already in this forum, those aren't essential to getting things going.

(BTW, this is my first build)

I put everything together, was careful to ground myself before touching parts, and so far no beeps at startup, no video signal to monitor, but both CPU and case fan are running, HDD felt warm after a few minutes, DVD writer opened and closed.

Here's what I've done to check for problems so far:

-Triple checked that any standoffs are shorting the board
-Removed all but the Ram, Processor, and PSU
-Reinstalled the CPU (I can't see it fitting any better) and heatsink/fan
-Removed the CMOS jumper to 'clear' the BIOS
-Removed the CMOS battery to 'clear' the BIOS
-Tried each RAM seperately, in both slots
-Using onboard video instead of GPU
-Removed mobo from case and hooked it up on the bag it came in (static-free stuff, whatever it's called)

Everytime, the same result. My other system is an AMD and too old to swap other parts to tell if something isn't working. The only things I can think of (which are out of my control) are:

-The 24 pin cable to power the mobo only has 23 pins (and wires). Not sure if this is normal (again first build) or if that's a red flag. According to the mobo manual, this pin is "PWROK".
-When I put on the heat sink (and yes, I used a thermal compound, and followed the directions), the board was slightly curved from all the pressure. A quick search let me know this is a common problem, but I wasn't sure how common.

Got everything from Memory Express (in Calgary, AB) so I can always go back if something's wrong, but I wanted to try building one myself and gain some knowledge/experience (looks like I will eventually). I wanted to try and sort out the problem at home, but you (anyone) are my last hope.
citizensmurf is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-12-2007, 12:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,060
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by citizensmurf View Post
Here's what I put together (everything new):

MSI 945GM3-F (onboard video)
Core 2 Duo E6550
Kingston ValueRam 2x1GB PC2-5300
Antec Earthwatts 500W

Also have DVD writer, HD and Video Card, but from what I read already in this forum, those aren't essential to getting things going.

(BTW, this is my first build)

I put everything together, was careful to ground myself before touching parts, and so far no beeps at startup, no video signal to monitor, but both CPU and case fan are running, HDD felt warm after a few minutes, DVD writer opened and closed.

Here's what I've done to check for problems so far:

-Triple checked that any standoffs are shorting the board
-Removed all but the Ram, Processor, and PSU
-Reinstalled the CPU (I can't see it fitting any better) and heatsink/fan
-Removed the CMOS jumper to 'clear' the BIOS
-Removed the CMOS battery to 'clear' the BIOS
-Tried each RAM seperately, in both slots
-Using onboard video instead of GPU
-Removed mobo from case and hooked it up on the bag it came in (static-free stuff, whatever it's called)

Everytime, the same result. My other system is an AMD and too old to swap other parts to tell if something isn't working. The only things I can think of (which are out of my control) are:

-The 24 pin cable to power the mobo only has 23 pins (and wires). Not sure if this is normal (again first build) or if that's a red flag. According to the mobo manual, this pin is "PWROK".
-When I put on the heat sink (and yes, I used a thermal compound, and followed the directions), the board was slightly curved from all the pressure. A quick search let me know this is a common problem, but I wasn't sure how common.

Got everything from Memory Express (in Calgary, AB) so I can always go back if something's wrong, but I wanted to try building one myself and gain some knowledge/experience (looks like I will eventually). I wanted to try and sort out the problem at home, but you (anyone) are my last hope.
Did you connect the CPU power connector?
INTELCRAZY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 02:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
New Member
 
citizensmurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by INTELCRAZY View Post
Did you connect the CPU power connector?
Yes. It was the ATX 4pin 12v.
citizensmurf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 02:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,969
Default

According to the link I am providing, the motherboard might not support the E6550 chip. Hard to tell.

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?f...ncat_no=1#menu

Also, did you check your ram timings and voltages in the bio's? Make sure they are the same as what your ram is.

Last edited by paratwa; 08-12-2007 at 02:27 AM.
paratwa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 02:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
New Member
 
citizensmurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by paratwa View Post
According to the link I am providing, the motherboard might not support the E6550 chip. Hard to tell.

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?f...ncat_no=1#menu
Hmmm...

I originally picked the E6420, but it wasn't in stock anymore and the sales guy recommended the E6550. That could be the problem. Thanks.

I can't even get into BIOS, it's like the system turns on but doesn't boot, and there is no video signal.

Last edited by citizensmurf; 08-12-2007 at 02:39 AM.
citizensmurf is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 08-12-2007, 02:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,969
Default

Without your keyboard working there is no way to get into the bio's. You need to get that working first. Did you find an adaptor?

OOPS, Wrong thread! hehe That was a question on another one, disregard!
paratwa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 02:47 AM   #7 (permalink)
New Member
 
citizensmurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by paratwa View Post
Without your keyboard working there is no way to get into the bio's. You need to get that working first. Did you find an adaptor?
How do I know I'm in BIOS if I don't have anything on screen. It literally says 'No Signal' then goes to sleep mode. Did this with my video card and with the onboard video. Also there are no beeps at startup to indicate what error there might be.
citizensmurf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 02:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,969
Default

yeah, sorry for my last post, in another thread someone was having problems and even his keyboard was not working. Disregard my last post please.
paratwa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 03:00 AM   #9 (permalink)
Moderator
 
oscaryu1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 13
Posts: 10,149
Default

If the processor has an higher FSB than the mobo can handle, its not gonna POST. If the motherboard was bad, that could also be an problem.

23 pins is NOT normal. I suggest you go back and get one with 24pins.
__________________

Core 2 Duo E2140 1.6GHz @ 3.04GHz
GA-P31-DS3L
pqi Turbo CL4 DDR2-800 2GB
Sapphire HD3850 256MB
Sony Writemaster DVD Burner EIDE
Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200.9 8MB SATII
oscaryu1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 10:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
New Member
 
citizensmurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oscaryu1 View Post
If the processor has an higher FSB than the mobo can handle, its not gonna POST. If the motherboard was bad, that could also be an problem.

23 pins is NOT normal. I suggest you go back and get one with 24pins.
I think the 23 pins might be normal. Another forum suggested it was, and the picture on the box looks like its missing it as well. I'm thinking that the mobo was the only problem, so I'll take it back.
__________________
"Your brain is simply wired to a nostalgic sense of audio distortion. You hear warmth, you think you hear grandeur, space, subtlety, all these things. But actually you're just satisfying an old recording in your brain."

-Daniel Richler paraphrasing Geddy Lee on why people prefer vinyl to cd.
citizensmurf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
First Build pcfool Desktop Computers 12 04-24-2007 09:19 PM
New mobo advice? Couple of confirmations needed publiusdiamond Motherboards 7 04-12-2006 01:21 PM
mobo and case compatability towly Motherboards 16 09-02-2005 01:55 AM
Did I mess up my new mobo dennykyser Motherboards 14 08-26-2005 12:50 PM
20-PIN PSU VS 24-PIN Mobo hookup? Glenn9643 Motherboards 10 05-14-2005 03:39 PM



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:52 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2002-2008 Computer Forum and Web Design Forum