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Old 06-15-2005, 07:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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How come the AMD 64 GHZ speed is slower than an Intel?
One could ask "Why is the Intel one faster?" ... the point being the clock speed isnt an issue. For instance, most people buy a car based on a make and model number rather than the number of revs in such a gear at such a speed Same with computers (i.e., you buy a make and model rather than by a specific clock frrequency)

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Like my 3700+ san diego is 2.2ghz and isaround 330 bux while a intel 3.4 prescott is around 310 bux
1. More expensive doesnt mean better. Nor does it mean worse
2. The Pentium 4 3.4GHz is, afaik, discontinued in favor of the the Pentium 4 550

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Does that mean the 64 is slower?
Well it doesnt "mean" that it is slower. The fact of the matter is that the AMD Athlon64 3700 is slower. Why is kind of irrelevant

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In my opinion the AMDs are faster than the Intels.
And important distinction here is that for specific tasks (namely gaming), AMD processors (and in particular their K8 lineup) is better than intel processors -- not faster ("better" is measured in something like fps or seconds whereas "faster" is measured in Hz)

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The 3700 means it's equal to a P4 3.7 for example
Thats what most people think and AMD knows it. 3700 is an arbitrary number given to a specific type of chip running at 2.2Ghz

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AMD chips perform 9 operations per clock cycle
Ok before i see more of this crap... what opcodes execute in 1/9th of a cycle? LIST THEM. Last time i checked ASM for x86 the most efficient ops took place in 1 cycle. So lets drop the BS and talk facts.

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AMD chips perform 9 operations per clock cycle, whereas Intel chips can only do 6 operation per clock cycle
Even if we buy into this silliness, the 3700+ at 2.2Ghz x 9 = 198000000000 and say a 560 which is the "closest" at 3.6Ghz x 6 = 216000000000... so wth are you talking about?

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I have one of the new Intel 64-bits "630" and it better be 64-BIT! It's still no where near the performance of an AMD anything bit!
Its a 64bit processor. Of course whether you're running it in 64bit mode depends on th OS involved.

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I believe Intel has 64-bit processors as well, and now that there are applications which actually take advantage of that, such as Windows 64-bit edition...its starting to be worth it.
Yes Intels 6xx linup of consumer processors and everything to follow will generally be 64bit processors

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Lets stay on topic please, avatar discussion can happen in the General chat

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Ah, I had read occasional spatterings of internet reviews and the sort, and kept hearing about how Intel had yet to go to 64-bit. I suppose then, that those were outdated writings. Ah well, I don't pay too much attention to what Intel does, after all, it's been a long time since they've done anything innovative or earth-shattering.
Hmmm funny how Windows XP 64bit edition was designed for Intel platforms and then awhile later Windows XP x64 came out for AMD processors..... I'd say Intel's been in the 64bit market a lot longer than you give them credit for

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Anyway, my point in the whole "Intel not being 64-bit" bit is that Zabarl is comparing the operating frequency of a 64-bit AMD chip, to the operating frequency of an Intel 32-bit chip.
But the external addressing size of the processor doesnt matter

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Yeah, well, i'm not paying anymore attention to Intel anymore. They promised me speed, and they gave me nothing but a bigger price tag... If I didn't spend 230!!! freaking dollars on the CPU alone I would definately go back to AMD.
Intel processors are better suited for certain tasks and AMD processors suited for other tasks. Simple as that. Sure you can argue a Hummer (a real one, not them silly ones you see civilians driving) to outpace a Ferrari you'll be sadly mistaken but on the flipside, no Ferarri is gonna survive the roughzones like a Humnmer

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AMD's speeds are much better than Intel's(when compared to the same MHz)
Its been a long time since they've been the same though hehe ... ever since launch of Netburst
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