dual boot ?

JlCollins005 · 09-16-2007, 11:39 PM

k im gunna run xp pro and a version of linux on my pc but the thing is which do i install firstm and does ne 1 have any suggestions on which version linux i want something that looks cool

PC eye · 09-17-2007, 12:03 AM

Linux comes in many flavors is one typical expression heard for that OS!

Windows likes the first primary by rule on any drive. Linux can easily be put on a separate root and followed with the swap partition(usually 2gb works depending on memory installed). Some favor ubuntu while others go for Mandriva, SUSe, or some other.

One way to see which distro seems to be the best for you is to first try out the live for cd version where you simply see that load from removable media with no changes to the HD made. In fact having one or more live distro onhand can be a big help rescuing files from a drive when the partition somehow becomes inaccessible. I keep Knoppix, Mephis, ubuntu, Gentoo, and Mandriva live distros onhand for this.

Impulse666 · 09-17-2007, 12:40 AM

Windows should definitely go on first, as Linux is much more kind to Windows than Windows is to Linux. Install windows on a partition and leave room for your etx2 (Linux file system) and ext3 (swap partition, ~512MB if RAM=1GB, etc). Or you can install Windows on an entire drive, and Linux can shrink down the Windows partition and make room for itself (provided you have room on that drive/partition).

I prefer and humbly recommend Ubuntu as my Linux OS of choice.

PC eye · 09-17-2007, 01:36 AM

Since you are planning to run Linux with Windows there even with only Windows run and wanting to split a drive you may want to get familiar with GParted live for cd. That will easily create the primary for XP(NTFS) as well as the VFat type partitions needed for the distro you go with. You can easily shrink a primary but that takes a lonnnggg time over taking an existing and expanding it.

Creating the initial primary for XP and leaving about 12-15gb for Linux won't even be noticed on a larger capacity drive. Linux can run easily on small partitions since there's no space reserves for a 2gb or larger paging file. The swap partition covers virtual memory there usually about 2gb works well. The 0.3.3.0 version of GParted specifically is the one you want. The others are strictly Linux as that one is "platform independent" meaning any OS and partition type. You get that free at http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...kage_id=173828

Take a look at the screen shots on GParted seen at the lsite there for getting a little more familiar with the differences seen at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry...cd-0.3.4-0.jpg Note in the upper right corner on the menu bar the "/dev/hda" is the first hard drive seen on a system. The default 1024x768 screen resolution will insure that button is visible while the 1280x1024 is best with large screen monitors only.

kobaj · 09-17-2007, 02:56 AM

I agree with most of the other people, windows xp first, just use it to setup the partitions for windows and linux.

Then I would recommend (cause you said looks cool, but I like the functionality)
Ubuntu Ultimate 1.4
With Compiz Fuzion.

Here is what it looks like

.

JlCollins005 · 09-17-2007, 03:07 AM

how do i run the compiz lol i might need some help with that one

PC eye · 09-17-2007, 03:39 AM

This is why I suggested starting off with a live for cd distro since tarz files need some experience in using. For a Linux newbie you would want a live version with the option to install making life a little easier there. Linux is still based on the old UNIX platform and a review of a few tutorials will help you considerably. While often found more stable then Windows it's still a different OS to begin with.

Some distros like Kubuntu, Darnsmall, Puppy, Knoppix, Zenwalk, Gentoo, and a few others are smaller easier to learn to use over some Red Hat distros like Fedora which are more server orientated. One site geared with Linux tutrorials would happen to be a Linux forum as well. http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/

A few here at CF are regular Linux users that help quite a bit on different things to get you started. But there still things to learn like bash commands and the Grub type console similar to a MS dos prompt with a different set of manual commands.

JlCollins005 · 09-17-2007, 03:53 AM

ive messed around with darn small before, but thus the reason i want to have a linux as the 2nd os so i can get used to it, the only thing is my wireless card prolly wont work

PC eye · 09-17-2007, 04:01 AM

I would have to agree readily as seeing this as a second OS. Eventually you would find some drivers or help with wireless. But that will most likely take some. When running several distros here on different occasions I could never get online with hard wired dsl. The ISP simply has no Linux compatible drivers found. 98 was the minimum requirement or one version of Apple/Mac but not Linux.

JlCollins005 · 09-17-2007, 04:06 AM

i know i was doin some research and found a site some link that takes ur windows driver and ports it to make it work with in linux

09-16-2007, 11:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
JlCollins005 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 21 Posts: 936	dual boot ? k im gunna run xp pro and a version of linux on my pc but the thing is which do i install firstm and does ne 1 have any suggestions on which version linux i want something that looks cool __________________ My Latop Hp zv6000 AMD Athlon 3200+ 2GB Ram 60GB Hdd Cdrw/DVD rom Ati 128 Vid 15.4" Glossy Widescreen

09-17-2007, 12:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,226	Linux comes in many flavors is one typical expression heard for that OS! Windows likes the first primary by rule on any drive. Linux can easily be put on a separate root and followed with the swap partition(usually 2gb works depending on memory installed). Some favor ubuntu while others go for Mandriva, SUSe, or some other. One way to see which distro seems to be the best for you is to first try out the live for cd version where you simply see that load from removable media with no changes to the HD made. In fact having one or more live distro onhand can be a big help rescuing files from a drive when the partition somehow becomes inaccessible. I keep Knoppix, Mephis, ubuntu, Gentoo, and Mandriva live distros onhand for this. __________________ Turning auto exhaust into a new energy source http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5552209 Ahead of theCurve: Extreme gamers play 45hrs. a week http://blogs.abcnews.com/aheadofthec...extreme-g.html

09-17-2007, 12:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
Impulse666 Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 571	Windows should definitely go on first, as Linux is much more kind to Windows than Windows is to Linux. Install windows on a partition and leave room for your etx2 (Linux file system) and ext3 (swap partition, ~512MB if RAM=1GB, etc). Or you can install Windows on an entire drive, and Linux can shrink down the Windows partition and make room for itself (provided you have room on that drive/partition). I prefer and humbly recommend Ubuntu as my Linux OS of choice. __________________ Ubuntu 7.10 Pentium 4 631 3.0Ghz 160 + 320 + 320 GB 1024MB 7600GT OC Acer 22" LCD M-Audio Audiophile 2496 Sony STR-G1ES Scott SP1001 (x2) ::: FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND ::: F@H Team 44358 ::: Team Stats :::

09-17-2007, 01:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,226	Since you are planning to run Linux with Windows there even with only Windows run and wanting to split a drive you may want to get familiar with GParted live for cd. That will easily create the primary for XP(NTFS) as well as the VFat type partitions needed for the distro you go with. You can easily shrink a primary but that takes a lonnnggg time over taking an existing and expanding it. Creating the initial primary for XP and leaving about 12-15gb for Linux won't even be noticed on a larger capacity drive. Linux can run easily on small partitions since there's no space reserves for a 2gb or larger paging file. The swap partition covers virtual memory there usually about 2gb works well. The 0.3.3.0 version of GParted specifically is the one you want. The others are strictly Linux as that one is "platform independent" meaning any OS and partition type. You get that free at http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...kage_id=173828 Take a look at the screen shots on GParted seen at the lsite there for getting a little more familiar with the differences seen at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry...cd-0.3.4-0.jpg Note in the upper right corner on the menu bar the "/dev/hda" is the first hard drive seen on a system. The default 1024x768 screen resolution will insure that button is visible while the 1280x1024 is best with large screen monitors only. __________________ Turning auto exhaust into a new energy source http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5552209 Ahead of theCurve: Extreme gamers play 45hrs. a week http://blogs.abcnews.com/aheadofthec...extreme-g.html

09-17-2007, 02:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
kobaj Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,177	I agree with most of the other people, windows xp first, just use it to setup the partitions for windows and linux. Then I would recommend (cause you said looks cool, but I like the functionality) Ubuntu Ultimate 1.4 With Compiz Fuzion. Here is what it looks like . __________________ My site My sigThanks Kornowski for ava and sig. Winner of photo competition: Bokeh.

09-17-2007, 03:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
JlCollins005 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 21 Posts: 936	how do i run the compiz lol i might need some help with that one __________________ My Latop Hp zv6000 AMD Athlon 3200+ 2GB Ram 60GB Hdd Cdrw/DVD rom Ati 128 Vid 15.4" Glossy Widescreen

09-17-2007, 03:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,226	This is why I suggested starting off with a live for cd distro since tarz files need some experience in using. For a Linux newbie you would want a live version with the option to install making life a little easier there. Linux is still based on the old UNIX platform and a review of a few tutorials will help you considerably. While often found more stable then Windows it's still a different OS to begin with. Some distros like Kubuntu, Darnsmall, Puppy, Knoppix, Zenwalk, Gentoo, and a few others are smaller easier to learn to use over some Red Hat distros like Fedora which are more server orientated. One site geared with Linux tutrorials would happen to be a Linux forum as well. http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/ A few here at CF are regular Linux users that help quite a bit on different things to get you started. But there still things to learn like bash commands and the Grub type console similar to a MS dos prompt with a different set of manual commands. __________________ Turning auto exhaust into a new energy source http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5552209 Ahead of theCurve: Extreme gamers play 45hrs. a week http://blogs.abcnews.com/aheadofthec...extreme-g.html

09-17-2007, 03:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
JlCollins005 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 21 Posts: 936	ive messed around with darn small before, but thus the reason i want to have a linux as the 2nd os so i can get used to it, the only thing is my wireless card prolly wont work __________________ My Latop Hp zv6000 AMD Athlon 3200+ 2GB Ram 60GB Hdd Cdrw/DVD rom Ati 128 Vid 15.4" Glossy Widescreen

09-17-2007, 04:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,226	I would have to agree readily as seeing this as a second OS. Eventually you would find some drivers or help with wireless. But that will most likely take some. When running several distros here on different occasions I could never get online with hard wired dsl. The ISP simply has no Linux compatible drivers found. 98 was the minimum requirement or one version of Apple/Mac but not Linux. __________________ Turning auto exhaust into a new energy source http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5552209 Ahead of theCurve: Extreme gamers play 45hrs. a week http://blogs.abcnews.com/aheadofthec...extreme-g.html

09-17-2007, 04:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
JlCollins005 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 21 Posts: 936	i know i was doin some research and found a site some link that takes ur windows driver and ports it to make it work with in linux __________________ My Latop Hp zv6000 AMD Athlon 3200+ 2GB Ram 60GB Hdd Cdrw/DVD rom Ati 128 Vid 15.4" Glossy Widescreen

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