Will it work with Vista?

ThatGuy16 · 09-25-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

What application or game will take up more than 4 gigs of RAM? To the point where you are having to access so much virtual memory it slows your system down? I don't even think you understand how memory access works in a computer Thatguy16, and I am not trying to call you out or dis you but you don't provide any facts with any of your advice.

Umm ok... i never said you would even need 2gb of ram, and i do infact know how it works..

Call me out, or provide facts? are you kidding? If he needed it then i would have provided some "facts". I mean why not get 64bit vista when you get all the advantages and more with the 64bit version? I think this is a thread on drivers, not a debate on my knowledge, your knowlege, or vista.

Kornowski, like i said in my other post, 32bit would be fine.. if you don't plan on or need what 64bit has to offer.

tlarkin · 09-25-2007, 09:04 PM

You don't get any advantages at all. 64bit support sucks, there is no advantage. Other than 64 bit memory addressing, which no one even really utilizes yet. I would wait until there is better support for 64bit because who knows if or when developers will release proper updates. They may just make you buy new equipment, and not support legacy equipment which happens all the time.

INTELCRAZY · 09-25-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kornowski

I don't really get it, could you re-phrase that please

Yeah, In the two links I've posted above they say there isn't any support for 64bit Vitsa, only ones for the 32bit version. So now I don't think I'll be getting Vista... Bummer!

Just get a different receiver and Vista... Inventel, yeah, what kinda company is that?

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

You don't get any advantages at all. 64bit support sucks, there is no advantage. Other than 64 bit memory addressing, which no one even really utilizes yet. I would wait until there is better support for 64bit because who knows if or when developers will release proper updates. They may just make you buy new equipment, and not support legacy equipment which happens all the time.

I can tell a bit of difference with PS Elements 5.0 load time in Vista. And the OS loads faster in 64-bit.

ThatGuy16 · 09-25-2007, 09:13 PM

I have never heard of Inventel lol. tlarkin, at the moment 64bit is just as supported as 32bit vista due to its popularity.

tlarkin · 09-25-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by INTELCRAZY

I can tell a bit of difference with PS Elements 5.0 load time in Vista. And the OS loads faster in 64-bit.

This is the illusion of loading faster because Vista pre loads everything in memory, thus making raising the minimum specs and using more RAM. Vista in general does this regardless of 32bit or 64bit versions, and it also why vista devours your RAM.

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I have never heard of Inventel lol. tlarkin, at the moment 64bit is just as supported as 32bit vista due to its popularity.

I would have to see hard data on that before I believe it. No company or organization has upgraded to vista really yet, and half the vista user base is using 32bit versions, and Vista isn't selling and PC manufacturers are not selling any laptops. All sales are down for this year, unless it is Apple their sales are way up. 64bit XP isn't even widely used at all. The home users only really represent a small percentage when comparing it to enterprises which run 1000s and 1000s of computers.

Kornowski · 09-25-2007, 09:24 PM

I found out I can't use a different reciever, apparently...

Would I really need the drivers for it, is there anything I can do in Vista, just plug in the adaptor and isn't there something in Vista?

ThatGuy16 · 09-25-2007, 09:28 PM

Is it PCI? you can get good PCI adapters for cheap.

If its a wiress PCI card it will work with any router, you are talking about a wireless network, right?

tlarkin · 09-25-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kornowski

I found out I can't use a different reciever, apparently...

Would I really need the drivers for it, is there anything I can do in Vista, just plug in the adaptor and isn't there something in Vista?

Your adapter is USB and if it is that one that is linked it looks rather cheap so it is probably a legacy product which means there is a good chance the developer will not write new drivers for it. They will make you buy the new product which is supported, or maybe not depends.

Is this going on a laptop or a desktop? Also, the link you provided said it goes to a specific router, not reciever, is that just jargin barrier from the states and the UK. Do you guys call wireless access points "reveivers"?

You could also go plug it into a vista machine, perhaps a generic driver works, or you can force a generic driver to work.

Kornowski · 09-25-2007, 09:44 PM

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Is it PCI? you can get good PCI adapters for cheap.

If its a wiress PCI card it will work with any router, you are talking about a wireless network, right?

Nope, it's a USB reciever, it's this one...

This link says it's supposed to work with Orange Livebox (Internet I have)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-New-Inve...QQcmdZViewItem

and this one says it's a plug in and play one, but it doesn't say if it'll work with Vista...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Inventel-Wirel...QQcmdZViewItem

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Your adapter is USB and if it is that one that is linked it looks rather cheap so it is probably a legacy product which means there is a good chance the developer will not write new drivers for it. They will make you buy the new product which is supported, or maybe not depends.

Yeah, it's that one, and, Yeah, it is cheap, it came with out router. I looked it up and the Orange company don't distribute them with their routers any more and apparenlty Inventel don't make them anymore.

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Is this going on a laptop or a desktop? Also, the link you provided said it goes to a specific router, not reciever, is that just jargin barrier from the states and the UK. Do you guys call wireless access points "reveivers"?

It's for my Desktop PC, Yeah, that's what I've heard, they somehow got it to only work with the Livebox Router, don't know if another reciever would work though?

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You could also go plug it into a vista machine, perhaps a generic driver works, or you can force a generic driver to work.

So find somebody with Vista, plug it in and see what it does you mean? I know of one person I can test it with, I think they have x32 bit Vista, would it make a difference if I'm looking at x64?

ThatGuy16 · 09-25-2007, 09:47 PM

If its USB, i would suggest a PCI card anyhow, a good/decent card are around $25 (US). For gaming you should see better results with a PCI card. Im using a PCI card on my rig, from reviews and what i have read you get a better connection and speed for a PCI card.

09-25-2007, 09:13 PM	#34 (permalink)
ThatGuy16 Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,105	I have never heard of Inventel lol. tlarkin, at the moment 64bit is just as supported as 32bit vista due to its popularity. __________________ CPU: C2D E8400 @ 4Ghz 1.23v HSF: Apogee GTX MB: Gigabyte X38-DS4 Ram: 2x2GB G. Skill DDR2-1068 HDD: 320GB Seagate PSU: OCZ GameXStream 700w OS: Vista Home Premium 64bit GFX: HD3870 @ 837/1152 LCD: LG 22" L226WTQ My Old 3DMark06: 20008 =(

09-25-2007, 09:28 PM	#37 (permalink)
ThatGuy16 Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,105	Is it PCI? you can get good PCI adapters for cheap. If its a wiress PCI card it will work with any router, you are talking about a wireless network, right? __________________ CPU: C2D E8400 @ 4Ghz 1.23v HSF: Apogee GTX MB: Gigabyte X38-DS4 Ram: 2x2GB G. Skill DDR2-1068 HDD: 320GB Seagate PSU: OCZ GameXStream 700w OS: Vista Home Premium 64bit GFX: HD3870 @ 837/1152 LCD: LG 22" L226WTQ My Old 3DMark06: 20008 =(

09-25-2007, 09:47 PM	#40 (permalink)
ThatGuy16 Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,105	If its USB, i would suggest a PCI card anyhow, a good/decent card are around $25 (US). For gaming you should see better results with a PCI card. Im using a PCI card on my rig, from reviews and what i have read you get a better connection and speed for a PCI card. __________________ CPU: C2D E8400 @ 4Ghz 1.23v HSF: Apogee GTX MB: Gigabyte X38-DS4 Ram: 2x2GB G. Skill DDR2-1068 HDD: 320GB Seagate PSU: OCZ GameXStream 700w OS: Vista Home Premium 64bit GFX: HD3870 @ 837/1152 LCD: LG 22" L226WTQ My Old 3DMark06: 20008 =(

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tlarkin VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 6,056	You don't get any advantages at all. 64bit support sucks, there is no advantage. Other than 64 bit memory addressing, which no one even really utilizes yet. I would wait until there is better support for 64bit because who knows if or when developers will release proper updates. They may just make you buy new equipment, and not support legacy equipment which happens all the time.