Power but no boot

spanky · 09-28-2007, 04:54 AM

Putting together a new computer tonight but it won't boot. When you flip the psu switch the fans come on and the hdd spins up for a couple secs then off (which I thought was odd but I've only owned thermaltake psu's previously) and the front lcd with the temp probes comes on for a few secs too. Then press the case power on switch and nothing.

List of parts:
case: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811146038
gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130082
cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115030
mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128059
odd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136120
psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139001
ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211174
hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148230

Yes, the ram is seated corrently. Yes, both 4-pin power and 24 pin power are both connected to mobo. Hard drive is connected to first sata spot. I tried running with both roms, then one, then none. I checked to make sure the gpu was seated correctly. I double checked the connections for the pw switch, and reset switch. I'm guessing I'm going to have to take it out of the case and try it?

Jabes · 09-28-2007, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theresthatguy

Putting together a new computer tonight but it won't boot. When you flip the psu switch the fans come on and the hdd spins up for a couple secs then off (which I thought was odd but I've only owned thermaltake psu's previously) and the front lcd with the temp probes comes on for a few secs too. Then press the case power on switch and nothing.

List of parts:
case: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811146038
gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130082
cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115030
mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128059
odd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136120
psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139001
ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211174
hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148230

Yes, the ram is seated corrently. Yes, both 4-pin power and 24 pin power are both connected to mobo. Hard drive is connected to first sata spot. I tried running with both roms, then one, then none. I checked to make sure the gpu was seated correctly. I double checked the connections for the pw switch, and reset switch. I'm guessing I'm going to have to take it out of the case and try it?

yea u could have gotten a bad mobo which isn't rare

**The_Other_One** · 09-28-2007, 05:16 AM

Typical solution/test... Remove everything, start over again. Do things one by one and try to eliminate any bad components. Try with the mobo, cpu, and PSU to see if you get a no ram beep...

spanky · 09-28-2007, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Other_One

Typical solution/test... Remove everything, start over again. Do things one by one and try to eliminate any bad components. Try with the mobo, cpu, and PSU to see if you get a no ram beep...

Should I pull it out of the case to do so?

PC eye · 09-28-2007, 06:23 AM

I rest a board on about a half dozen retangular pencil erasers above a non conductive surface usually with supply, video card, memory, cpu, and maybe one fan plugged if needed if the view of the cpu fan is facing away. New boards also see a green led indicating power if you remember to turn on the breaker switch on the supply.

One other thing to note is what happened on the last build here when swapping the supply out. Nothing with the new supply? It was a simple task to unplug and lightly replug the 12v cpu feed back in that suddenly saw the system fire right up! A loose contect in the plug itself was all it was there. Just a thought on this. You can read that in the thread seen at Bad Board? Or Simply A Need To Replug?

spanky · 09-28-2007, 06:56 AM

New news. I have this setup outside the case now. Mobo is powered. Cpu fan plugged in. Case pw switch connect. No ram, no gpu. < with all that the psu fan spins and nothing else happens. With ram, the same thing. With ram and gpu the mobo makes a HIGH pitched long continuous beep after I hit the case switch but fades and at the same time the psu fan slows down almost to a stop but then comes back and so does the beep. I took out the ram, left the gpu. Same annoying beep. Took out the ram and gpu again, same results as the first time with only psu fan spinning. Put the gpu back in and got the high pitched beep. I'm a bit confused about what all this means? bad gpu, mobo, psu? I find it odd that without the gpu the psu fan slow and start intermittenly but runs continuously without the gpu after the case power switch is pushed on. Is the psu to blame?

Edit: about the 12 volt connector at the top that PC Eye mentioned. i was very gently and only pushed till it clicked. i went ahead and tried reconnecting it. same results.

**The_Other_One** · 09-28-2007, 07:08 AM

Hmm... Sounds almost like something's bad... This beep I assume is from the PC-Speaker and not the PSU or something?

Do you have anything else you could test the components in? Specifically the power supply, or another PSU to try in the new system.

spanky · 09-28-2007, 07:13 AM

The high pitched beep is certainly coming from the gpu. I would have to take the psu out of this computer if i wanted to try another one.

Edit: there is no pc speaker or mobo speaker.

PC eye · 09-28-2007, 07:16 AM

Well you were able to rule a few things besides cpu and board. A bad video card generally sees a long and two short beeps. Or that can also be memory depending the bios. I don't like a constant beep since that often points at the cpu. On some older boards you would also see a cpu failure message instead of any audio alert or could be a bios checksum error.

The error code chart for Intel boards lf that is the same as seen in your sig are seen at http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../cs-010249.htm

spanky · 09-28-2007, 07:17 AM

This is not like your regular beep. THIS IS REALLY HIGH PITCHED and coming from the GPU. It also comes and goes with what seems like power loss; you know that fading sort of effect.

09-28-2007, 04:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
spanky Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KC, MO Posts: 2,419	Power but no boot Putting together a new computer tonight but it won't boot. When you flip the psu switch the fans come on and the hdd spins up for a couple secs then off (which I thought was odd but I've only owned thermaltake psu's previously) and the front lcd with the temp probes comes on for a few secs too. Then press the case power on switch and nothing. List of parts: case: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811146038 gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130082 cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115030 mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128059 odd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136120 psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139001 ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211174 hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148230 Yes, the ram is seated corrently. Yes, both 4-pin power and 24 pin power are both connected to mobo. Hard drive is connected to first sata spot. I tried running with both roms, then one, then none. I checked to make sure the gpu was seated correctly. I double checked the connections for the pw switch, and reset switch. I'm guessing I'm going to have to take it out of the case and try it? __________________ CS:S [.:CF:.] site: http://forums.cfclan.net/ Formerly theresthatguy CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 HSF: TK IFX-14 with 120 mm @ 114 CFM GPU: XFX 7950 GX2 RAM: 2GB Corsair XMS2 Pro DDR2 800 MOBO: Intel D975XBX HDD:80GB/750GB Seagates CASE: P180b Last edited by spanky; 09-28-2007 at 05:01 AM.

09-28-2007, 05:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 23 Posts: 12,368	Typical solution/test... Remove everything, start over again. Do things one by one and try to eliminate any bad components. Try with the mobo, cpu, and PSU to see if you get a no ram beep... __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100

09-28-2007, 06:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,279	I rest a board on about a half dozen retangular pencil erasers above a non conductive surface usually with supply, video card, memory, cpu, and maybe one fan plugged if needed if the view of the cpu fan is facing away. New boards also see a green led indicating power if you remember to turn on the breaker switch on the supply. One other thing to note is what happened on the last build here when swapping the supply out. Nothing with the new supply? It was a simple task to unplug and lightly replug the 12v cpu feed back in that suddenly saw the system fire right up! A loose contect in the plug itself was all it was there. Just a thought on this. You can read that in the thread seen at Bad Board? Or Simply A Need To Replug? __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

09-28-2007, 06:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
spanky Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KC, MO Posts: 2,419	New news. I have this setup outside the case now. Mobo is powered. Cpu fan plugged in. Case pw switch connect. No ram, no gpu. < with all that the psu fan spins and nothing else happens. With ram, the same thing. With ram and gpu the mobo makes a HIGH pitched long continuous beep after I hit the case switch but fades and at the same time the psu fan slows down almost to a stop but then comes back and so does the beep. I took out the ram, left the gpu. Same annoying beep. Took out the ram and gpu again, same results as the first time with only psu fan spinning. Put the gpu back in and got the high pitched beep. I'm a bit confused about what all this means? bad gpu, mobo, psu? I find it odd that without the gpu the psu fan slow and start intermittenly but runs continuously without the gpu after the case power switch is pushed on. Is the psu to blame? Edit: about the 12 volt connector at the top that PC Eye mentioned. i was very gently and only pushed till it clicked. i went ahead and tried reconnecting it. same results. __________________ CS:S [.:CF:.] site: http://forums.cfclan.net/ Formerly theresthatguy CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 HSF: TK IFX-14 with 120 mm @ 114 CFM GPU: XFX 7950 GX2 RAM: 2GB Corsair XMS2 Pro DDR2 800 MOBO: Intel D975XBX HDD:80GB/750GB Seagates CASE: P180b Last edited by spanky; 09-28-2007 at 07:06 AM.

09-28-2007, 07:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 23 Posts: 12,368	Hmm... Sounds almost like something's bad... This beep I assume is from the PC-Speaker and not the PSU or something? Do you have anything else you could test the components in? Specifically the power supply, or another PSU to try in the new system. __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100

09-28-2007, 07:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
spanky Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KC, MO Posts: 2,419	The high pitched beep is certainly coming from the gpu. I would have to take the psu out of this computer if i wanted to try another one. Edit: there is no pc speaker or mobo speaker. __________________ CS:S [.:CF:.] site: http://forums.cfclan.net/ Formerly theresthatguy CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 HSF: TK IFX-14 with 120 mm @ 114 CFM GPU: XFX 7950 GX2 RAM: 2GB Corsair XMS2 Pro DDR2 800 MOBO: Intel D975XBX HDD:80GB/750GB Seagates CASE: P180b

09-28-2007, 07:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,279	Well you were able to rule a few things besides cpu and board. A bad video card generally sees a long and two short beeps. Or that can also be memory depending the bios. I don't like a constant beep since that often points at the cpu. On some older boards you would also see a cpu failure message instead of any audio alert or could be a bios checksum error. The error code chart for Intel boards lf that is the same as seen in your sig are seen at http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../cs-010249.htm __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

09-28-2007, 07:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
spanky Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KC, MO Posts: 2,419	This is not like your regular beep. THIS IS REALLY HIGH PITCHED and coming from the GPU. It also comes and goes with what seems like power loss; you know that fading sort of effect. __________________ CS:S [.:CF:.] site: http://forums.cfclan.net/ Formerly theresthatguy CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 HSF: TK IFX-14 with 120 mm @ 114 CFM GPU: XFX 7950 GX2 RAM: 2GB Corsair XMS2 Pro DDR2 800 MOBO: Intel D975XBX HDD:80GB/750GB Seagates CASE: P180b Last edited by spanky; 09-28-2007 at 07:21 AM.

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