My New Computer Concept

XByteComputers · 10-10-2007, 04:07 AM

My name is Steven. I run my own business that builds computers. As owner of the business I am expected to come up with new ideas for new computer systems to keep my business going. I have drawn up an idea for a new system that aims at gamers and young adults.

Here is the system design. I am going to build a computer that will run all new computer games, 2-3GB RAM, 320-500GB HD, GeForce 8500GT or ATI HD 2600 w/ HDMI output, AMD Athlon FX or Intel Core 2. The case is designed as a slim case to fit in with your home theater setup and it is designed to be connected to your TV or HDTV using component cables or an HDMI cable. It also will have a built in 2.4Ghz sensor for a wireless mouse and keyboard to it so that you can still use it for its computer functionality(i.e: Internet, Productivity,etc) Think of it as a computer that doubles as a gaming console.

It will run a highly modified version of Windows XP MCE or a highly modified version of Vista Basic(for DX10 support) so that it can be controlled with the included XBox 360 wired controller and will run games with little start time from the OS and computer.

Here is what I need to know? What would be a good name for it, and who would purchase one, and any further suggestions.

Thanks for the support and I look forward being a valued member of this community.

littleblackxj · 10-10-2007, 04:13 AM

You can already plug in a xbox 360 controller into a computer and have it work with vista. As far as a hacked version of vista to boot only the essential components of the OS would be very difficult, and illegal. Since vista is close-sourced you can't modify any programs because you don't have the source code. You could just make it so some services don't get booted with vista, but you would then need to create your own window-manager and an app to install games and create an icon for them. This does sound easy, but believe me, it's not.

I do like your idea of a slim tower which would be awesome to have.

Hope this helps.

XByteComputers · 10-10-2007, 04:18 AM

As far as controller support, I meant to say that the computer could be controlled by either a mouse or the 360 controller and double as the game pads. Even play multi-player games with more than one controller plugged in. I already developed the software to control the computer with the controller and when I say modified OS, I didn't mean editing M$ code, I meant what you suggested. Thanks for the speedy response. All suggestions are welcomed, thanks for your support.

littleblackxj · 10-10-2007, 04:22 AM

No problem. I have no idea of how you would make it split screen. The only thing that i could think of is either a.) creating a virtual machine with an accelerated x server and use that to run, or b.) creating two x servers within windows xserver and some how run two instances of the game or at least the game engine and have it output to the seperate xserver, and tying all that into one window-manager.

Needless to say, what you need to do is not taught in high-school, lol.

EDIT: Or just put a xbox 360 inside a computer and plug it into a tv tuner card. Then create a program that automatically runs the 360 fullscreen.

XByteComputers · 10-10-2007, 04:28 AM

I think that you posted that on the wrong post.

littleblackxj · 10-10-2007, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XByteComputers

I think that you posted that on the wrong post.

No, i was just giving you my $0.02 on how to run a video game with 2 players playing the same game.

nexolus · 10-10-2007, 04:33 AM

I'm not sure if that's really a "concept." Like me saying i'm going to put up a hammock in between two trees that is slim isn't really a concept, but whatever floats your boat.

And including the 2.4GHz adapter might not be enough. Many wireless devices are RF or Bluetooth, so maybe you should see what the customer wants first. Also those 8 series cards aren't THAT slim, so you will have to devise a way to fit that in as well.

XByteComputers · 10-10-2007, 04:47 AM

Oh, i gotcha there littleblackxj, just caught me off guard by what you were talking about, my bad. The slim case I have uses a PCI-e riser card that allows me to use full size PCI-e cards in the case. Also, the adapter could wait for the customer to decide as well. Maybe split screen capability isnt that good of an idea anyways, just a thought. Thanks for the feedback keep it coming.

pies · 10-10-2007, 06:04 AM

What if you included a wireless card for internet as well.
And maybe going with an 8800 or 8600 instead of the 8500 to add a little more edge just a suggestion.
I really like the idea though how much you thinking of pricing them at if you don't mind sharing with us.
-pies

oscaryu1 · 10-10-2007, 12:31 PM

Ditto. An 8500 isn't going to run any of the games well at all. I'd go with an 8600GT, or even an 8600GTX if you can. 8800, if you can fit it in the small case. Make sure you have good airflow too.

10-10-2007, 04:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
XByteComputers Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 34	My New Computer Concept My name is Steven. I run my own business that builds computers. As owner of the business I am expected to come up with new ideas for new computer systems to keep my business going. I have drawn up an idea for a new system that aims at gamers and young adults. Here is the system design. I am going to build a computer that will run all new computer games, 2-3GB RAM, 320-500GB HD, GeForce 8500GT or ATI HD 2600 w/ HDMI output, AMD Athlon FX or Intel Core 2. The case is designed as a slim case to fit in with your home theater setup and it is designed to be connected to your TV or HDTV using component cables or an HDMI cable. It also will have a built in 2.4Ghz sensor for a wireless mouse and keyboard to it so that you can still use it for its computer functionality(i.e: Internet, Productivity,etc) Think of it as a computer that doubles as a gaming console. It will run a highly modified version of Windows XP MCE or a highly modified version of Vista Basic(for DX10 support) so that it can be controlled with the included XBox 360 wired controller and will run games with little start time from the OS and computer. Here is what I need to know? What would be a good name for it, and who would purchase one, and any further suggestions. Thanks for the support and I look forward being a valued member of this community.

10-10-2007, 06:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
pies Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Poland, OH Posts: 476	What if you included a wireless card for internet as well. And maybe going with an 8800 or 8600 instead of the 8500 to add a little more edge just a suggestion. I really like the idea though how much you thinking of pricing them at if you don't mind sharing with us. -pies __________________ Desktop Case-Antec 900/Psu- Abs 800 watt Motherboard- Asus p5k Deluxe Wifi/Cpu- Intel Core 2 E8400 Ram- Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4gb ddr2 800/Gpu- sapphire ATI 4850 Hdd- 1.25tb/ DVD- Light ON/- Custom Water Cooling Last edited by pies; 10-10-2007 at 06:08 AM. Reason: forgot a few things

10-10-2007, 12:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
oscaryu1 VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 13 Posts: 9,859	Ditto. An 8500 isn't going to run any of the games well at all. I'd go with an 8600GT, or even an 8600GTX if you can. 8800, if you can fit it in the small case. Make sure you have good airflow too. __________________ Core 2 Duo E2140 1.6GHz @ 3.04GHz GA-P31-DS3L pqi Turbo CL4 DDR2-800 2GB Sapphire HD3850 256MB Sony Writemaster DVD Burner EIDE Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200.9 8MB SATII

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10-10-2007, 04:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
littleblackxj Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 151	You can already plug in a xbox 360 controller into a computer and have it work with vista. As far as a hacked version of vista to boot only the essential components of the OS would be very difficult, and illegal. Since vista is close-sourced you can't modify any programs because you don't have the source code. You could just make it so some services don't get booted with vista, but you would then need to create your own window-manager and an app to install games and create an icon for them. This does sound easy, but believe me, it's not. I do like your idea of a slim tower which would be awesome to have. Hope this helps.

10-10-2007, 04:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
XByteComputers Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 34	As far as controller support, I meant to say that the computer could be controlled by either a mouse or the 360 controller and double as the game pads. Even play multi-player games with more than one controller plugged in. I already developed the software to control the computer with the controller and when I say modified OS, I didn't mean editing M$ code, I meant what you suggested. Thanks for the speedy response. All suggestions are welcomed, thanks for your support.

10-10-2007, 04:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
littleblackxj Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 151	No problem. I have no idea of how you would make it split screen. The only thing that i could think of is either a.) creating a virtual machine with an accelerated x server and use that to run, or b.) creating two x servers within windows xserver and some how run two instances of the game or at least the game engine and have it output to the seperate xserver, and tying all that into one window-manager. Needless to say, what you need to do is not taught in high-school, lol. EDIT: Or just put a xbox 360 inside a computer and plug it into a tv tuner card. Then create a program that automatically runs the 360 fullscreen.

10-10-2007, 04:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
XByteComputers Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 34	I think that you posted that on the wrong post.

10-10-2007, 04:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
nexolus Gold Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 472	I'm not sure if that's really a "concept." Like me saying i'm going to put up a hammock in between two trees that is slim isn't really a concept, but whatever floats your boat. And including the 2.4GHz adapter might not be enough. Many wireless devices are RF or Bluetooth, so maybe you should see what the customer wants first. Also those 8 series cards aren't THAT slim, so you will have to devise a way to fit that in as well.

10-10-2007, 04:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
XByteComputers Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 34	Oh, i gotcha there littleblackxj, just caught me off guard by what you were talking about, my bad. The slim case I have uses a PCI-e riser card that allows me to use full size PCI-e cards in the case. Also, the adapter could wait for the customer to decide as well. Maybe split screen capability isnt that good of an idea anyways, just a thought. Thanks for the feedback keep it coming.