Discussion in 'Computer Games and Consoles' started by ADE, Mar 5, 2007.
DX 9c seems to running ok here on Vista. With Vista out now what do you still see at Microsoft? DX 9c! That 2005 article has done nothing more then start a rumor mill. When the next version of Direct X comes out look over the information on it then to get the facts. Wait until someone installs DX 10 on an XP system and everything still works? We'll see then.
You're very slow ADE, lol.
They posted this back in October, and then a few days later wrote another article saying that they were wrong. DX9.0L (as they call it in the article), is built into Vista, and allows you to use DX9 games and apps, even though it has DX10.
DirectX10 is not compatible with XP, and I highly doubt it ever will be.
DX 10 hasn't even come out as a separate download to try it one way or the other. Would you think an old 8bit dos game would run on a Vista machine? http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dukestartoffsu1.jpg
It seems odd that the DX download page has a few things to say on this.
DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer
The Microsoft DirectX® End-User Runtime provides updates to 9.0c and previous versions of DirectX — the core Windows® technology that drives high-speed multimedia and games on the PC.
Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000; Windows 2000 Advanced Server; Windows 2000 Professional Edition ; Windows 2000 Server; Windows 2000 Service Pack 2; Windows 2000 Service Pack 3; Windows 2000 Service Pack 4; Windows 98; Windows 98 Second Edition; Windows Server 2003; Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1; Windows Server 2003, Datacenter x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003, Enterprise x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003, Standard x64 Edition; Windows Small Business Server 2003 ; Windows XP; Windows XP 64-bit; Windows XP Home Edition ; Windows XP Media Center Edition; Windows XP Professional Edition ; Windows XP Service Pack 1; Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows XP Starter Edition; Windows XP Tablet PC Edition http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en
You will like this one even more for the redistributable version seen at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0C-5E44-4864-93CD-464EF59DA050&displaylang=en
Supported Operating Systems: Windows Server 2003; Windows Server 2003 R2 Datacenter Edition (32-Bit x86); Windows Server 2003 R2 Datacenter x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition (32-Bit x86); Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition (32-bit x86); Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard x64 Edition ; Windows Server 2003 R2 x64 editions; Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1; Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2; Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003 x64 editions; Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition (32-bit x86); Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition for 64-Bit Itanium-Based Systems; Windows Server 2003, Datacenter x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition (32-bit x86); Windows Server 2003, Enterprise x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition (32-bit x86); Windows Server 2003, Standard x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003, Web Edition; Windows Small Business Server 2003 ; Windows Vista; Windows Vista Business; Windows Vista Business 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Business N; Windows Vista Enterprise; Windows Vista Enterprise 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Home Basic; Windows Vista Home Basic 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Home Basic N; Windows Vista Home Premium; Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Starter; Windows Vista Starter N; Windows Vista Ultimate; Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition; Windows XP; Windows XP 64-bit; Windows XP Home Edition ; Windows XP Home Edition N; Windows XP Media Center Edition; Windows XP Professional Edition ; Windows XP Professional N; Windows XP Professional x64 Edition ; Windows XP Service Pack 1; Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows XP Starter Edition; Windows XP Tablet PC Edition
As far as I know, DX10 is already included on Vista, but just a crude version of it. If it doesnt include it right now, and has to be downloaded, then why does it say DirectX10 when you enter dxdiag?
Direct X 10 will NOT be compatible with XP and its already shipped with vista.
LOL! Whoops! I didn't really read it. -_-
That's due to the encoding into Vista there. One thing seen at Microsoft regarding DX 9 and previous versions is the continued updates which will most like see the equivalent to DX 10 while still requiring the original DX 9c be installed first and then updated when installing XP, 2K, ME, 98. Some form of updated drivers would have to be downloaded in order to see newer DX 10 orientated games run on an XP system. Presently both the early DX 10 included and DX 9c are on the Vista installation here.
Then dont make a thread....
I might get vista....Ill be using my DX9 tho . for a few months.
The latest SDK redistributable is basically an online type of installer that downloads the updated DX drivers to bring the 9c and older DX versions upto the DX 10 standards while not being a separate package you can save to a folder. You will notiice that even Vista is included showing that while 10 comes along with it the updates will go on the ohter version mentioned as well. Eventually you will probably see a version of 10 that will update XP. But that would have to have the XP version of drivers there to work. Otherwise?
You mean the coding of Vista, not encoding of Vista
Waaaa t eeevvrrrr there! According to a few things reviewed at Microsoft the DX 9c will still be seeing some updates like the previous versions back as far as 2000, 98, and ME. But you won't quite see the previous download for installing DX on XP like you did when going frrom 7 or 8 to 9 or 9a to 9b and then 9c. The main core has been changed for video mainly. Apparently MS has to have something for that and sound rendering to update 9c on older versions of Windows.
are there even cards that can handle DX10?
*Cough* 8800 *cough*
Let's find out what other models are available first.
Nvidia released for the moment GeForce 8800 GTX and GeForce 8800 GTS both monsters in quality and power. Here are their stats:
GeForce 8800 GTX GeForce 8800 GTS
Stream [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]Processors[/color][/color] 128 96
Core Clock (MHz) 575 500
Shader Clock (MHz) 1350 1200
Memory Clock (MHz) 900 800
Memory Amount 768MB 640MB or 320MB
Memory Interface 384-bit 320-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 86.4 64
Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec) 36.8 24
ATI is still to release a native DirectX 10 video card. They have solutions for Vista like the mighty Radeon® X1950 but it' not a native direct X 10 graphics card. We wait eagerly some mid-end video cards for those who don't want extreme gaming at their feet.
written by Madalin D. http://games.helpero.com/news/DirectX-10-Video-Cards-for-Real-Gamers_59.html
The R600 series Radeon models will be screamers when they arrive. Performance reviews place them higher then either the 8600 and 8800 models. Gee I can't wait for that Radeon X2000 1,800mhz model.
Right now three cards can.
The 8800GTX 768MB
The 8800GTS 640MB
The 8800GTS 320MB.
Separate names with a comma.