Right, first post... Ok, first i will give you a bit of background info: I am a Mac user, and have been for the last 3 years, (previously an XP user), and i have now lost touch with the windows world. My grandparents (now into their late 70's) have been contemplating getting a computer for about 5 years now, but it is finally getting to the point where they are needing one in the near future (next 6 months or so). All they need to do on it is word processing, the occasional spreadsheet, email, and internet, so nothing powerful or fancy. They now live in an apartment, and have gone for a modern look in there, and so naturally about 2 years ago when i had become a very satisfied mac user thought that and imac would be a very good option for them, - 1 wire for power, and then every thing else cam be wireless, but they have now decided that they want a laptop so that they can go around the flat with the computer. they also want a screen that is 17", and to go with mac, this would be expensive (17" macbook pro about £2000 & refurbished still about £1500) and to do some simple tasks this is quite a lot, and even more when you add on the price of all the extras, modem, router, back up, printer etc. So they have now decided that they want to get a nice 17" laptop with windows 7, (aarrgghh), despite my continued debates that macs will need a lot less virtual maintenance (firewall, anti - spyware, virus, malware etc.) So.... at long last the bit that we are all interested in: What is the best laptop for them - (and for those of you who could not be bothered to read the long essay above - it needs a 17" ish screen, windows 7, reputable manufacturer, & only needs to be able to do simple word processing, email and internet). Thank you Jager720 P.S - I am pretty familiar with almost all computer things, i have just forgotten everything about windows.