How do people feel about steam.

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I just got done building a decent gaming machine and was looking forward to...you know, playing some games on it. I pop in the discs for wow and of course that has to be patched and updated and crap that takes hours so i figured while the internet connection(a very very freakin slow dsl) is tied up i'd play the new game i just bought, modern warfare 2.....little did i know it was a steam game that requires you to install and download the updates for their piece of garbage software just so i can play a game i already have the discs for with all the game content i need. I could be playing the single player campaign happily right now but instead i'm staring at progress bars. I had steam a while back when i bought the orange box and i didn't like fussing with it then either just so i could play games i already have a legal copy to. It just seems like it's annoying and in the way, not steamlining or improving anything. A bloated mechanism for protection of intellectual property, not a step forward.

Everyone else's thoughts?
 
I love steam,Its just easier.....not having to the store to pick up the disk or await delivery.....games get patched automaticly to latest,Steam Support team were very helpfull when my Steam account got hacked and retrieved my account quickly.

Also cant beat their Sales they have quite alot,great prices.

The only thing i dont realy like....you cannot sell your account if your done with it.....well you can but not legit as its in the EULA. :cool:
 
I hate steam. I bought a game once, before I even knew about their stupid-ass EULA which does not allow transfer of CD key. Anyway, I bought The Orange Box, used, and couldn't use it.
 
I don't mind steam....but I will never buy a game file vs disk that I can't sell when I get bored of it. However you get some serious discounts on a lot of their games.
 
It's got it's positives and negatives.

The only thing I don't like is having all my account tied together, so if for some reason my steam account gets banned I suddenly lose $100s of dollars worth of games. That and they dont let you, as far as I know, let you appeal bans. Like I'm permabanned from MW2 because some asshole hacker modded the server I was playing on.
 
Yeah the hacking thing is a serious concern for me with Steam,my account already been hacked once.....Then he had been playing some of my games on the account....luckily he didn't get any of them banned!

Just make sure you have a super long password,and change it regularly.

But i do like steam :)
 
Use it very occasionally when i want a new game NOW! hah. Rather buy the disc every time though. In terms of practicality, never really had any problems myself - suppose that comes with a quick connection
 
Nevakonaza said:
Yeah the hacking thing is a serious concern for me with Steam,my account already been hacked once.....Then he had been playing some of my games on the account....luckily he didn't get any of them banned!

Just make sure you have a super long password,and change it regularly.

But i do like steam :)
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I got hacked once, got my account back within the hour and didn't change my pass (I know, stupid) until a month ago or so, so was ~6 months until I changed it :P. The guys at Valve were super duper fast at sorting it, so props to them for that :good:. I haven't got hacked since, and that is 2 different passwords in ~4 years, so really, you only get hacked if you are unlucky

I love steam, I have all of my games apart from BC2 and non-steam games through it. It is so easy to use because everything is always there, you don't have to go hunting for games if you get the urge to play one, you just install it (I know some can take a while, but less stressful) and play. Your discs can't get scratched, you don't have to take games here, there and everywhere if you want to install them on other computers elsewhere because all you need is steam. They have some awesome deals, in my whole steam list I have 32 games and I payed at most £100 for it all thanks to deals. I also love the social system.

However, I don't like that I can't sell my game, but, with that said, I like that it future proofs me. If I get the urge to paly one of my games a couple years down the line, I can, where as I may have sold it otherwise and be unable to play it.

The other downside is that with CoD games running iw3 (CoD4 and WaW) pb will kick you if you have the steam overlay up when playing, but that really isn't a problem at all, and this is coming from a proffesional CoD4 gamer that owns the game through steam, just disable it when you play. I think it can also make it kick you from other pb games if it is up, but most bypass it, and apparently there is a steam update coming to rectify the problem
 
The instant I bring a disc home, I make an image. Legal: yes, you are allowed to make a backup copy of most software. It's faster to mount and install (runnin' off the ole HD), it doesn't scratch, and people can't just pick it up and "borrow" it.
I use this great free program called Gizmo, which mounts, rips to iso, and burns CD/DVDs, you can make RAM disks (remember those?:)) and a whole bunch of other features.
www.arainia.com
 
Twist86 said:
However you get some serious discounts on a lot of their games.
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Yeah some great discounts,I picked up GTA IV :EFLC cheap..and just picked up Borderlands for £6.79 :eek:,ive been waiting for this to go down and now it has!

Borderlands is 7000mb :eek:
 
While I don't PC game much, I think Steam is great, and I think that their system is going to be the future of gaming. Removable media will become a thing of the past eventually.

Elimin8or said:
I hate steam. I bought a game once, before I even knew about their stupid-ass EULA which does not allow transfer of CD key. Anyway, I bought The Orange Box, used, and couldn't use it.
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Well, that's something that a lot of publishers do, not just Valve. I'm not saying it's right, because it does allow someone to get screwed over pretty easy, but it's pretty common practice.
 
Steam has been good to me. I like the easy updates and downloads.

I like not having to put a disc in the drive. I don't like not being able to sell games, but I rarely do that anyway.

The best thing about it is probably the deals you can find on stuff. If prices are close I'll get the box version, but sometimes the deep discounts can't be beaten.
 
Nevakonaza said:
Yeah some great discounts,I picked up GTA IV :EFLC cheap..and just picked up Borderlands for £6.79 :eek:,ive been waiting for this to go down and now it has!

Borderlands is 7000mb :eek:
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Yeah...sadly I prefer hard disk games so I have to wait longer for my good deals :)


Sadly I never been hacked though....I actually use a secure password that 99% of the script kitties wont guess so its impossible for a bruteforce technique. If I ever get my account stolen it will be because they hacked steam servers and took the login.txt / encryption key.
 
Twist86 said:
Yeah...sadly I prefer hard disk games so I have to wait longer for my good deals :)
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Why not get the deals through steam, download the game staight away, then back up common files to a DVD or 2, then you have a hard copy that installs the same as an actual hard copy does, so you don't have to wait for download times after the first time
 
Aastii said:
Why not get the deals through steam, download the game staight away, then back up common files to a DVD or 2, then you have a hard copy that installs the same as an actual hard copy does, so you don't have to wait for download times after the first time
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What happens if you get banned so you cant play thru steam the copies you have made will they be ok to play although you are banned.:)
 
I have a love/hate thing with steam... my brother gifted me a TF2 guest pass... and lo and behold it starts downloading the 5gb of game data.... I only get 8gb of data per month (mobile broadband) and it got to 700mb downloaded before i noticed... not happy...

Thing is i told steam not to download crap without my explicit consent! :mad:
 
russb said:
What happens if you get banned so you cant play thru steam the copies you have made will they be ok to play although you are banned.:)
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your steam account never gets banned, unless you sell your account or break the EULA some other way, but you can get banned from VAC secured games (CS, MW2, HL:DM, TF etc). If that happens, you can still play all your games offline, and you can still play all non-VAC games online.

For instance, I have CoD4 through steam. I could get VAC banned, but I would still be able to play CoD4 online even though I have it through steam, because CoD servers have punkbuster.
 
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Thanks Aastii nice bit of information to know if in the future i get something
from steam game wise.:)
 
It would be nice if steam was optional instead of restrictional. For example when I bought my computer the first thing I wanted to do was installed TF2. Sure I could re-download all my previous games on my other computer like DOW2 but I had the disks for all of them. I downloaded Steam and installed TF2 using the disk. Dumb thing is that I forgot my password and couldn't play my game that I bought from a store.

Steam should be a program that you use to purchase games and organize them into one place. Not a middle program that gets in the middle of you and the games you already own.
 
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