Is downloading Music for Free illegal in your Eyes.

Do you think downloading free music is Ok?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 61.1%

  • No

    Votes: 7 38.9%
  • Total voters
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Kill Bill

Kill Bill

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So I was bored in this restaurant on Monday (of course Chinese New year but I have like a gum infection so one side of my mouth is up and I look deformed anyway) So I was on my iTunes on my iPhone and downloaded Circus and 4 Minutes which is DRM free now and blah blah blah but my sister said I was stupid downloading Music and paying for it and just to download it for free. How ever according to a law which was enforced recently in America if you go over there and bring lots of gadgets = me they have a right to look through them for illegal music etc So what's your opinion do you think downloading music for free is right or wrong.
 
JTM

JTM

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"Do you think downloading free music is Ok?" - I believe you have phrased that wrong. If the music was free then why wouldn't it be ok to download it.

I understand what you're trying to say "is it ok to illegally download copyrighted material?". The answer is no, the artist and collaboration team/producer has to be paid for doing what they are doing. Downloading music that is copyrighted is illegal.

And I don't understand what you mean that someone can check your phone by just asking to? That doesn't seem right, and even if they did they can't prove the music is illegally obtained.
 
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konsole

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Some music is intended to be distributed for free legally. If everyone who owns the rights to the music say it can be distributed for free then its fine. Most mainstream stuff though isnt so downloading for free the latest metallica stuff or the latest 50 cent stuff most likely isnt right. If its illegal how could it possibly be ok? Now you may be able to get that stuff for free as long as theres so kind of agreement between the end-user and the copyright owners.

and JTM, so whats your saying is just because its free its ok to download?
 
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Kill Bill

Kill Bill

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JTM said:
"Do you think downloading free music is Ok?" - I believe you have phrased that wrong. If the music was free then why wouldn't it be ok to download it.

I understand what you're trying to say "is it ok to illegally download copyrighted material?". The answer is no, the artist and collaboration team/producer has to be paid for doing what they are doing. Downloading music that is copyrighted is illegal.

And I don't understand what you mean that someone can check your phone by just asking to? That doesn't seem right, and even if they did they can't prove the music is illegally obtained.
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Well my sisters music wouldn't have ID3 tags and Oh I did phrase it wrong. Anyway I read somewhere if you seem like a threat by the police etc.
 
Shane

Shane

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Itunes are selling singles at a mere 79p here which i think is a great price so yeah i agree that downloading copyrighted material is wrong.

however even that cheap people still think well why should i pay for something i can get for free if its legal or not.

Alot of folks dont care about the legality of it.
 
JTM

JTM

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konsole said:
Some music is intended to be distributed for free legally. If everyone who owns the rights to the music say it can be distributed for free then its fine. Most mainstream stuff though isnt so downloading for free the latest metallica stuff or the latest 50 cent stuff most likely isnt right. If its illegal how could it possibly be ok? Now you may be able to get that stuff for free as long as theres so kind of agreement between the end-user and the copyright owners.

and JTM, so whats your saying is just because its free its ok to download?
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I'm not saying that at all, you have mis-interpreted me. I'm saying that if the music is set to be free by the parties that own the copyright then it is ok to download it. Nothing I said pertained to illegal action. I stated that his question wasn't properly worded. In case you don't know there are some torrent sites that pertain only to free non-copyrighted material, hence my use of free.

As you can see in my response I gave a suitable explanation on how it is illegal to download copyrighted material which is not free.
 
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tlarkin

tlarkin

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Downloading anything for free with out the consent of the creator or if it is not published under an open source license is illegal. You need to pay for what you own, otherwise the people that create it don't get paid.
 
salman

salman

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A lot of bands wouldn't be where they are now if not for the 'illegal' DLing of their music- I wouldn't know about half of the bands and musicians i listen to if not for the torrents. The few bands and musicians that are my favorites I will happily buy their CDs.
 
Droogie

Droogie

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salman said:
A lot of bands wouldn't be where they are now if not for the 'illegal' DLing of their music- I wouldn't know about half of the bands and musicians i listen to if not for the torrents. The few bands and musicians that are my favorites I will happily buy their CDs.
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I agree with that 100%. People don't look at the positives that come out of downloading music. It's a great tool for promoting bands and newer music. I also buy CD's for the bands that are my favorites.

This thread will be locked soon enough, but I thought I'd comment anyway.
 
gamerman4

gamerman4

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It's not that hard to buy your own music. If you don't download much then iTunes is good. If you download many songs fairly often then there are services that let you download as much music as you want for a single monthly fee.
 
tlarkin

tlarkin

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gamerman4 said:
It's not that hard to buy your own music. If you don't download much then iTunes is good. If you download many songs fairly often then there are services that let you download as much music as you want for a single monthly fee.
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Is there one that is DRM free though? The problem I have with the subscriptions is the DRM crap that comes with them.
 
Twist86

Twist86

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I wont lie I download every CD from rapidshare/megaupload...I listen through the entire CD one/two times then I buy the single tracks from each CD that I like and delete the tracks I didn't like. This way I save money but still support the artists I like.

I refuse to pay 15.99 for a CD anymore with 1 good song and 14 crappy tracks....the music industry are the real pirates and that is why their sales are down its not all because of p2p. P2P is the new "its all Bushes fault" thing.

Go back 20 years and there were a hell of a lot more variety of music back then to this bubble gum crap they serve to us now.

90% of the bands on my playlist are in another country (which I can't buy the CD within reason)...the US really sucks for music now a days. Very few talented artists...its all about the TNA.
 
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mac550

mac550

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ok i am more than happy to pay 79p for a track, but like with itune and loads of other sites they put DRM's on them, ok it stops you coping the music for me its useless, it means i cant put them on my mp3 player or my phone and everytime i format my HDD's i need to renew the DRM and you can only do that like 5 times before it blocks the track.
 
Kill Bill

Kill Bill

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mac550 said:
ok i am more than happy to pay 79p for a track, but like with itune and loads of other sites they put DRM's on them, ok it stops you coping the music for me its useless, it means i cant put them on my mp3 player or my phone and everytime i format my HDD's i need to renew the DRM and you can only do that like 5 times before it blocks the track.
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I started buying from iTunes because they stopped DRM which is great!

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TBH I always bought CDS but over here I just realised why pay €1.29 for a CD that I'll only use on my iPod. Believe me it all adds up.
 
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dug987654

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Twist86 said:
Go back 20 years and there were a hell of a lot more variety of music back then to this bubble gum crap they serve to us now.
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I've had this discussion a number of times with my parents and they tell of how they used to record (cassette tape) their friends records, off the radio, copy tapes etc., and back then the singles were less than the equivalent (inflation etc.) of £1, now your talking £3 in the shops.

Personally, I don't think it is 'right' to illegally download music, but when your outgoings are more than your income CD's etc. cannot be bought.

I also find it strange paying for something that isn't physically there. A lot of people see it as OK as they are not physically taking something.

Doug.
 
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dug987654

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Also, it costs 12p to manufacture the CD. The case maybe another 10p, printing a couple of pence. I would buy more CDs if they were more reasonably priced. I appreciate that people need to be paid etc., but for a lot of people, especially younger people who (I imagine) make up the bulk of the illegal downloaders, CDs are too expensive. Doug.
 
TFT

TFT

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Using the term "expensive" is not a good enough reason to download illegally, if you can't afford it you don't get it and you've not earned the right to own it. It's as simple as that. I can't afford a Ferrari so I make do with what I can afford, I don't go out and steal one.
 
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cudenver

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Using the term "expensive" is not a good enough reason to download illegally, if you can't afford it you don't get it and you've not earned the right to own it. It's as simple as that. I can't afford a Ferrari so I make do with what I can afford, I don't go out and steal one.
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That is exactly true.

My friend is in a major band the tours all around the world. When you download music that you have not paid for it is like stealing money out of his wallet. He works hard to make the music just like you work hard to work to earn your paycheck
 
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