Air Cooling Vs. Water Cooling Poll

Which do you have?

  • Water Cool System

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • Air Cool System

    Votes: 24 82.8%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .

bomberboysk

Active Member
yeh pointless lol... thats why cars etc use liquid cooling!

solid state cooling would only be possible with a solid state pump, would like to know of a pump with no moving parts
Well, actually heatpipes could be used for 100% silent cooling...But for the cooling capacity of a good system you would need to have like an entire case be the fins for the heatsink lol.
 

funkysnair

VIP Member
Well, actually heatpipes could be used for 100% silent cooling...But for the cooling capacity of a good system you would need to have like an entire case be the fins for the heatsink lol.

exactly!!

its a cost issue not a performance issue...

liquid cooling is not extreme cooling but its a step above air cooling, true it uses fans to cool the rad but its the liquid that removes the heat and the surface area of the rad that gives it the better cooling advantage!

i cant argue the cost side of things but when its the performance that comes into question its a different matter!
 

bomberboysk

Active Member
exactly!!

its a cost issue not a performance issue...

liquid cooling is not extreme cooling but its a step above air cooling, true it uses fans to cool the rad but its the liquid that removes the heat and the surface area of the rad that gives it the better cooling advantage!

i cant argue the cost side of things but when its the performance that comes into question its a different matter!
Plus, you cant really do sub ambient on air, while with water its not too difficult to run a chilled loop.
 

just a noob

Well-Known Member
Well, actually heatpipes could be used for 100% silent cooling...But for the cooling capacity of a good system you would need to have like an entire case be the fins for the heatsink lol.

isn't there a zalman case just like that?
edit: bomber, you should totally be able to do sub ambient on air, unless ohio doesn't get as cold as wisconsin(i could have gotten -30*C temps in the winter lol)
 

bomberboysk

Active Member
isn't there a zalman case just like that?
edit: bomber, you should totally be able to do sub ambient on air, unless ohio doesn't get as cold as wisconsin(i could have gotten -30*C temps in the winter lol)
Lol, sub ambient would be TEC lol! Sub ambient doesnt mean below 0, and i think -30c is a little exxagerated. People i know in newton/kiel get like -10f temps lol. Zalmans case is water cooled though, which means it needs a pump=not 100% silent;)
 

Mitch?

banned
you could have an ionized pump, using a semi permeable selective membrane to push water. i'm sure it'd cost alot and not be as powerful, but you don't need high speeds, especially if you're going water cooling to be silent.
 

MIK3daG33K

New Member
Little? Its not a little gain going from air to water, for one the rad can be outside the case which means cooler air. Other factors include more area and more effecient area to remove heat from, heatpipes can only be so effective, unlike water which is in a continuous loop.


I had a water cooler and my temps did not drop enough for me to spend the money again. With a quality heatsink good wire management and proper case fans you will not see enough of drop for the price you will pay. The fact that it's better is not in question because it is, but it's not a big enough difference for the price.
 
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bomberboysk

Active Member
I had a water cooler and my temps did not drop enough for me to spend the money again. With a quality heatsink good wire management and proper case fans you will not see enough of drop for the price you will pay. The fact that it's better is not in question because it is, but it's not a big enough difference for the price.
It really depends on what kind of watercooling, if its a decent system with good parts you will notice quite a difference in temperatures. If its a cheap thermaltake kit or one of those low end swiftech kits you wont notice a difference at all.
 

Geoff

VIP Member
Honestly water cooling is overrated, but it also adds to the look and then of course the bragging rights :)
 

gto286

New Member
the problems with water cooling are as follows:
1) maintenance and installation are a pain
2) expensive
3) only marginally better cooling performance

my biggest gripe with watercooling, is that it sucks the value out of overclocking. its usually better to spend $350 more on your processor and get a $50 heatsink then to spend $400 on a watercooling setup.

agreed! :cool:
 

bomberboysk

Active Member
Although...if you build a loop with quality parts, it can outlast an air cooler, quite lower temps, and can run tec's in it, running a tec on a just air cooler is somewhat hard.. I know here once i get a new case, i will be running a quad feser for my cpu, northbridge/southbridge/fet's, then eventually add in gpu. Might even toss in a TEC...
 
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Turbo10

Active Member
Yeah but come on doesnt it look awesome to have colour pipes with water going round your system. I agree that its a lot of money though, but its just an enthusiasts investment in a computer. Cause basically computers are expensive, full stop :D
 

gto286

New Member
ok on the note of liquid cooled. vs air cooled.
i once in a hot summer too a 3" flexible hose from my a/c vent on the floor
ran it in the back of the case (no case fan at the time)
sealed it then put some insulation around it to keep the air nice and cold.

it kept my desktop nice and cooled all my temps dropped dramatically
ran nice for months.:D

now those that have moisture in your a/c i don't recommend it

this idea worked for me and didn't cost me one red cent in extra parts
 

Geoff

VIP Member
ok on the note of liquid cooled. vs air cooled.
i once in a hot summer too a 3" flexible hose from my a/c vent on the floor
ran it in the back of the case (no case fan at the time)
sealed it then put some insulation around it to keep the air nice and cold.

it kept my desktop nice and cooled all my temps dropped dramatically
ran nice for months.:D

now those that have moisture in your a/c i don't recommend it

this idea worked for me and didn't cost me one red cent in extra parts
I did something similar, where during the cold winter months I had a vent coming in from outside, that kept the parts cold!
 

bomberboysk

Active Member
[-0MEGA-];1278922 said:
I did something similar, where during the cold winter months I had a vent coming in from outside, that kept the parts cold!
I did something twice as wacky, i had a window fan hooked up in the winter to keep my entire room around 45-50f:p I love the cold, for me, colder=better, which is why i cant wait til i get my attic done:D
 
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Twist86

Active Member
[-0MEGA-];1278922 said:
I did something similar, where during the cold winter months I had a vent coming in from outside, that kept the parts cold!

I do the same....cept I love my room being 50F...I don't get sick and my PC runs cool.

I never get sick though and I believe its because I enjoy my room being colder in the winter (thus not a total body shock from 80F to 30-40F temps or lower)
 
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