Okedokey
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Further patches inbound: http://gamers-underground.com/content/821-treyarch-s-pcdev-keeps-us-updated-black-ops-fixes.html
Call of Duty: Black Ops Thread
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g4m3rof1337
Active Member
I agree. Although I find the sounds in MOH better than Black Ops, but it's not a big deal. I'd like to agree with you on the last part, but we all know they will be complaining about another game when that time comes.
Calibretto
VIP Member
Apparently there issues with the Rcon tool as well. We can't access our server settings because Rcon keeps giving us an error whenever we try to connect to our server.
Our server is up and running floating out there somewhere, but we can't change the name of it or any settings....
Anyone server admins having issues with the Rcon tool?
Our server is up and running floating out there somewhere, but we can't change the name of it or any settings....
Anyone server admins having issues with the Rcon tool?
awildgoose
Active Member
I don't think the argument is about the whole prone part, but the diving (I think there is a exploit called dolphin diving or something? can someone enlighten me on that?) or at least how fast you get to the ground. Well to me that is, I dunno what other peoples problems with prone is.
Also I don't get why people get angry at campers (besides spawn campers) I mean, if I am in the same spot every time just shoot me haha.
g4m3rof1337
Active Member
In one of the multiplayer videos that was released a few months ago, they showed a guy clearly diving to the side. So I doubt it's an exploit.
awildgoose
Active Member
I dunno what you mean by the side, but in previous games where you dive to the ground really quick and can jump, you can jump and dive mid air or something and you are hard to hit. Not sure if you can in this, but I think that is one of the people's problems with diving/prone.
g4m3rof1337
Active Member
The video showed the guy playing, shooting at a guy in front of him, and in the background a guy dived out of the way, to the side.
And I've never seen diving before in COD4 or MW2, only in Black Ops. And my only problem with going prone is being just going prone before shooting. They don't jump. They just go prone.
Aastii
VIP Member
CoD isn't and shoudn't claim to be realistic (which it has in the past). Like bigfella says, if you want more realism, go play ArmA or AA or something along those lines. However, there are some unrealistic things, such as hopping/dolphin diving (will explain to goose/g4m3r in the quotes below) that shouldn't be in there
So far as I know, admining our server hasn't been an issue, however I'm not sure if the settings were changed server side by admin, or through rcon by admin. I'll ask this evening when everyone is on and get back to you, I can't find out because, although I'm an admin and can kick for stuff like disallowed weapons/abuse without being in game, I can't get the actual tool because I don't own the game
Dolphin diving is jumping, then going prone straight away. It is similar to flopping, which is just going prone straight away, without the jump. The whole unrealism comes in when you can flop, carry on shooting, and immediately gain composure and carry on shooting perfectly accurately, or even maintain a perfect view down your sights. I think prone should be implemented, however you shouldn't be able to shoot as you go down, and you shouldn't immediately be able to shoot perfectly. Prone should be there to quickly get in cover/prone in long grass when ghillied/take a better deffensive stance with more accuracy and better cover. It shouldn't be there to be able to flop out of the way mid combat.
As for jumping, jumping should be allowed to get from 1 place to another, I agree, but shouldn't be allowed in combat. There are 2 ways to stop this, either make it so you can only jump in certain areas which allow you to get to other places (which will also prevent glitching), or to make it, like a hell of a lot of mods have, so you can't shoot whilst leaving the ground, in mid air, or when landing. This doesn't include falling, only jumping
So far as I know, admining our server hasn't been an issue, however I'm not sure if the settings were changed server side by admin, or through rcon by admin. I'll ask this evening when everyone is on and get back to you, I can't find out because, although I'm an admin and can kick for stuff like disallowed weapons/abuse without being in game, I can't get the actual tool because I don't own the game
Dolphin diving is jumping, then going prone straight away. It is similar to flopping, which is just going prone straight away, without the jump. The whole unrealism comes in when you can flop, carry on shooting, and immediately gain composure and carry on shooting perfectly accurately, or even maintain a perfect view down your sights. I think prone should be implemented, however you shouldn't be able to shoot as you go down, and you shouldn't immediately be able to shoot perfectly. Prone should be there to quickly get in cover/prone in long grass when ghillied/take a better deffensive stance with more accuracy and better cover. It shouldn't be there to be able to flop out of the way mid combat.
As for jumping, jumping should be allowed to get from 1 place to another, I agree, but shouldn't be allowed in combat. There are 2 ways to stop this, either make it so you can only jump in certain areas which allow you to get to other places (which will also prevent glitching), or to make it, like a hell of a lot of mods have, so you can't shoot whilst leaving the ground, in mid air, or when landing. This doesn't include falling, only jumping
awildgoose
Active Member
That's kind of a dick thing to say.... we are just discussing a game, nothing more nothing less...
Aastii
VIP Member
Just because it has always had it doesn't mean it should always keep it. If it kept everything CoD2, or any CoD release had, then they may as well just bring out expansion packs instead of new games.
It is also a discussion thread, there is no right or wrong answer, only opinion. By all means voice yours, but in the process don't say things that could cause hostility please
russb
New Member
I dont know if i should ask a question about CoD Black Ops with all this
hostility about,stuff it i will.All these patches coming out can someone tell
me where i can download them from,please dont say CoD WEBSITE as i get
lost in there. Bigfella you have got to learn to calm down and this is how i do it,i go into my garden line up flower pots and smash them to bits after i feel nice and calm.
hostility about,stuff it i will.All these patches coming out can someone tell
me where i can download them from,please dont say CoD WEBSITE as i get
lost in there.
Bigfella you have got to learn to calm down and this is how i do it,i go into my garden line up flower pots and smash them to bits after i feel nice and calm.
Well im not sure if its already Downloaded/Updated mine on Steam,But i just played a couple of rounds and nothing seems to have changed....still lagging like mad.
Has anyone else noticed like a delay between the time you press the botton on your mouse and when the gun actually shoots in this game?...maybe its just the lag but it seems delayed and usualy ends up getting you killed.
Has anyone else noticed like a delay between the time you press the botton on your mouse and when the gun actually shoots in this game?...maybe its just the lag but it seems delayed and usualy ends up getting you killed.
Aastii
VIP Member
Aastii i thought you was my friend and then you go and insult me ( like you did with MW2.) i have never owned that load of poo and i am cutting you out of my will as you have really hurt me.
damn it
oh, and you may find this quite fun:
when in the chair at the main title screen:
if you are on PS3/Xbox, repeatedly press the triggers
if on PC, repeatedly tap space bar
if on the Wii, flail your wiimote/nunchuck around
Stand behind your chair, facing the monitors/people in the room
do a 180 degrees turn, so you are now facing the opposite direction. You can activate the terminal infront of you. You can find a list of commands to use in it here:
http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency_Data_system
personal favourite is "doa" (without the speach marks). Once you have entered it, I think it is on a timed base before it starts, or maybe holding down space bar on PC (I may have got lucky holding it down). Idk about consoles though, just button bash if it doesn't start after a bit
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damn it
oh, and you may find this quite fun:
when in the chair at the main title screen:
if you are on PS3/Xbox, repeatedly press the triggers
if on PC, repeatedly tap space bar
if on the Wii, flail your wiimote/nunchuck around
Stand behind your chair, facing the monitors/people in the room
do a 180 degrees turn, so you are now facing the opposite direction. You can activate the terminal infront of you. You can find a list of commands to use in it here:
http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency_Data_system
personal favourite is "doa" (without the speach marks). Once you have entered it, I think it is on a timed base before it starts, or maybe holding down space bar on PC (I may have got lucky holding it down). Idk about consoles though, just button bash if it doesn't start after a bit
Russ told me about that 4 days ago
,Quite a fun little game.Reminds me of Alien Swarm on Steam,Only better!
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