Call of Duty: Black Ops Thread

Aastii said:

More games should be developed in DX10 now I think, the vast, vast majority of gamers are on Nvidia 8xxx or ATi 3xxx series and above now, and those that aren't, you can pick up an 8600GT dirt cheap now, which is near as makes no difference 7800GT performance, so they aren't losing anything, but are gaining DX10

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Changing and upgrading to still relatively new DirectXs will require a generation at least. You have to consider several aspects of sticking with DX9.

As you stated, there is still a market for people who only have DX9 cards.
DX10/1 is new and still considered "unknown territory" eg,
-no major engines have (or CAN for that matter) swapped over to it fully, only, and officially.
-not many people can program in DX10/1 and all the "old geysers" of DX9 can't switch (teach an old dog new tricks sort of thing).
--Caveat being, getting new engines and programmers is expensive for companies.

These things and some others compound and have been keeping most games at DX9. Thus, its going to require several new programmers entering the market who have specifically been trained on DX10/1, making engines that are based around DX10/1 (and not just bad ports of DX9 engines), and a market shift to where the majority of users has DX10/1 cards. All in order to get better looking/running games of DX10/1

Oh, and vista fudged a bunch of stuff up with their DX10 flop, but those are just details--details.

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On the subject of Blackops, I'm kinda disgusted by the amount of people who got the game. Seriously, its Treyarch, people knew it would suck and have problems and Activision would totally rip everyone off, yet it grossed 50mill release day (or was it 500 mill, I dunno). Regardless, I didn't purchase it and after playing an hour or so at a friends house, I'm not missing a whole lot. This comes after forgoing food and work in order to get cod4 and MW /on release day./ Proving it's not that I'm not a fan of the series. I just like getting games worthwhile and boycotting not so worth ones.

No hard feelings for anyone here who got it, that is, /flamewar.

kobaj said:

Seriously, its Treyarch, people knew it would suck and have problems and Activision would totally rip everyone off

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I have to disagree with the Treyarch part. Their last game was World at War, which was really fun, and I don't recall it having any problems. I do remember being able to get into a tank, and using a flame thrower, though.

On the subject of Blackops, I'm kinda disgusted by the amount of people who got the game. Seriously, its Treyarch, people knew it would suck and have problems and Activision would totally rip everyone off, yet it grossed 50mill release day (or was it 500 mill, I dunno). Regardless, I didn't purchase it and after playing an hour or so at a friends house, I'm not missing a whole lot. This comes after forgoing food and work in order to get cod4 and MW /on release day./ Proving it's not that I'm not a fan of the series. I just like getting games worthwhile and boycotting not so worth ones.

No hard feelings for anyone here who got it, that is, /flamewar.

[/QUOTE] Kobaj,
I got the game because i was fed up with the rest of the games that i have but i agree with you.I played the SP and about 1/2 hour of Multi and then gave up.

kobaj said:

On the subject of Blackops, I'm kinda disgusted by the amount of people who got the game. Seriously, its Treyarch, people knew it would suck and have problems

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i think Treyarch makes the better call of duty to be honest.. IW releases have always appealed a bit more to the mainstream gamer in that they're alarmingly easy to play. i like the fact that Treyarch has introduced recoil, sway, done away with stopping power, kill streak building, etc.. black ops feels a lot more competitive than anything IW has released.

in terms of the PC issues.. yea its shitty that they had to rush the port, but Treyarch is a big company, far bigger than IW, and they will continue to release patches and fixes until its stable.

Droogie said:

i think Treyarch makes the better call of duty to be honest.. IW releases have always appealed a bit more to the mainstream gamer in that they're alarmingly easy to play. i like the fact that Treyarch has introduced recoil, sway, done away with stopping power, kill streak building, etc.. black ops feels a lot more competitive than anything IW has released.

in terms of the PC issues.. yea its shitty that they had to rush the port, but Treyarch is a big company, far bigger than IW, and they will continue to release patches and fixes until its stable.

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No new on next patch mind you......

Droogie said:

i think Treyarch makes the better call of duty to be honest.. IW releases have always appealed a bit more to the mainstream gamer in that they're alarmingly easy to play. i like the fact that Treyarch has introduced recoil, sway, done away with stopping power, kill streak building, etc.. black ops feels a lot more competitive than anything IW has released.

in terms of the PC issues.. yea its shitty that they had to rush the port, but Treyarch is a big company, far bigger than IW, and they will continue to release patches and fixes until its stable.

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@the DX thing earlier, we are into DX11 now, and there are DX10 engines out, several of them, developers just find it easier, and probably cheaper, to develop in DX9, but that is an appauling reason. If we stuck to "we know how to do it anyway, so lets take the easy route" we would still be sat with computers as they were in the 80's/90's. Hardware is ahead of software now, and that should never be the case, software should be in existance that pushes hardware to the limits and lets it perform how it was meant to. I don't mean benches, I mean in real world usage. Like a Crysis of today, but one that is coded correctly, so it does show the true potential. It would be a niche thing, I know, but it should be done again

@ the quote I enjoyed WaW, I thought MW2 and BO are crap, but I still think IW has the best in CoD4. It was the best for mainstream gamers, and for competative gaming. It wasn't hard to get good at it, but to master it is near impossible, when you have a group of people that know how to play the game, it becomes very very tactical and challenging. WaW I thought had a lot of flaws, but it was still so much fun, but also more difficult

Aastii said:

@ the quote I enjoyed WaW, I thought MW2 and BO are crap, but I still think IW has the best in CoD4. It was the best for mainstream gamers, and for competative gaming. It wasn't hard to get good at it, but to master it is near impossible, when you have a group of people that know how to play the game, it becomes very very tactical and challenging. WaW I thought had a lot of flaws, but it was still so much fun, but also more difficult

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CoD4 is great, probably my second favorite just behind BO. it had a lot of issues with it though, including the insanely huge and broken grenade radius . MW2 had so much potential, i still think its an excellent game, but it has way too many gamebreakers in terms of balance and playability.

i'm really surprised that you think BO is crap.. are you referring to the actual gameplay or just the technical issues with the PC version. i've been playing call of duty games for a long time, and this to me is by the far the most balanced and best playing title in the series (excluding the painfully nerfed sniping)

lol was playin the gun game last night and normally i get stuck on 1 and 2, by the time i finly get a kill with those things every one gad rifles but last night i won my first gun game.. i was like I AM EPIC

I'm tired of reading everyone complaining that the game is a flop, so I'm going to go ahead and put my opinion about Black Ops on here.

The game, in my opinion, is brilliant. Sure, it's not CoD4, but it beats all of Treyarch's previous CoD games, even CoD2: Big Red One, which I bought when it was first released and loved it. The multiplayer is the best of any CoD game, it's just that the simplicity of CoD4 makes it my favorite. The idea of purchasing weapons, upgrades, and perks makes it much fairer for newer players to jump in and play. I haven't finished the singleplayer yet, but I find it very entertaining so far, particularly the part with the Rolling Stones. Sure, PC gamers are having problems, but this is the Call of Duty Black Ops Thread, not the "Bitch about black ops thread."

El DJ said:

I'm tired of reading everyone complaining that the game is a flop, so I'm going to go ahead and put my opinion about Black Ops on here.
Sure, PC gamers are having problems, but this is the Call of Duty Black Ops Thread, not the "Bitch about black ops thread."

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I agree with you mate,as its near Christmas lets all be merry.Bye the way
( Location: Behind the wheel of my Benz.
Age: 19) when do you get the rest of your Benz as you have one wheel.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

El DJ said:

this is the Call of Duty Black Ops Thread, not the "Bitch about black ops thread."

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Doesn't mean you have to kiss Activision or Treyarch's backsides, you can have a negative view of the game, and if the majority think it is bad, that isn't everyone moaning, that is the sign of a not very good game

russb said:

I agree with you mate,as its near Christmas lets all be merry.Bye the way
( Location: Behind the wheel of my Benz.
Age: 19) when do you get the rest of your Benz as you have one wheel.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

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lmao russ loving it

I'm just gonna... post a video of meh playin...
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Waste of $60

Everyone on PC can't play for shit. I like half pay attention and just run around hip firing half the time and I've dominated like every game I've played so far and I've only been playing for like 3 hours total spread across a few days.

i'm really liking black ops. a good smart player will actually do consistently well in this game. it just feels so much better than any other cod i've played.. when i do poorly i can usually blame that on my own poor decision making, not some exploit or balance issue. it's, to me, the perfect balance between a twitch and tactical shooter.

it isn't perfect, but its a much needed breath of fresh air in series. i really do hope that the PC version of the game becomes more playable. i'm on xbox myself, it's just that i hate to see such a great game being ruined with technical issues.

Debating selling NV and Reach to get it on xbox. Feel like I'd have a lot more fun with it on there since I know far more people who play and most my issues with it are pc specific issues anyway.

I just bought it 2 days ago from www.wtsmystuff.com for $52

I am currently level 18 right now. It was fun until I ran into a hacker.

uk80glue said:

Waste of $60

Everyone on PC can't play for shit. I like half pay attention and just run around hip firing half the time and I've dominated like every game I've played so far and I've only been playing for like 3 hours total spread across a few days.

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...does anyone know what he is on about?

How is Multiplayer these days?Ive not played it for about 3 weeks....Have they fixed the stuttering/lag issues yet?

Nevakonaza said:

How is Multiplayer these days?Ive not played it for about 3 weeks....Have they fixed the stuttering/lag issues yet?

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Nev they still have servers going down but no where like it was before.I'm still playing it now and again but gone back to BFBC2 with the new maps it's not bad.

bigfellla said:

...does anyone know what he is on about?

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Perhaps if you try reading what I wrote.