Constant hate towards AMD

wolfeking

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I don't think that anyone really pays attention to the siggy unless someone is claiming outrageous performance, or says "specs in sig". no one will notice the oversight.
 

wolfeking

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im not taking a side on bigfella. Hes smart, and has good advice. Might could do without the computer god complex a little though.
 

M1kkelZR

Active Member
im not taking a side on bigfella. Hes smart, and has good advice. Might could do without the computer god complex a little though.

yeah, i like his enthousiasm but saying that his pc smashes anything else on the forum makes me think hes a tad cocky
 

Okedokey

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It wasn't meant to be a definitive statement, as I said before its simply a relational statement as a comparison from subscore to hardware. Thats all. Didn't mean to get knickers in a knot. Having said that, ive still not seen a faster system for gaming at least. And no, a 6990 in quad fire is not faster.
 

Okedokey

Well-Known Member
You're the biggest fanboy on this forum. You're seriously linking to a comparison of a 230 buck 2500k v a 145 or so buck phenom x4 970 (or lesser overclocked). That's a 17% increase in performance for almost a 60% price increase, talk about value. And yes, i will say that the i3 beats it in the other bench test, of course i would never call 25 fps unplayable, especially when it's the absolut minimum frame rate ever reached, and the average dips where most likely still in the 30+ fps range.

No one said anything about price comparison jonny. The comment i was referring to was essentially saying, regardless of price they all do the same thing. Which is completely incorrect. And anyone who thinks you can play a game 25fps is kidding themselves.
 

TrainTrackHack

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And anyone who thinks you can play a game 25fps is kidding themselves.
Why, this may well be true for shooters and other games where accuracy and precision matter, but outside them I have absolutely no trouble playing even at around 20fps. I can play, say, Assassins Creed maxed out at 1900x1080 on a measley HD5750 & Phenom 8450 (both stock) with visible lag at times without it getting in the way of me having fun. And that's even without getting into the RTS or, God forbid, TBS domain (yea this might not be a usual scenario but I'm into that kind of stuff).

Actually, I played the original oldschool Red Faction on the ancient machine just at the end of last year with frame rates that probably fairly consistently went down to the 15-20 range (based on my experiences with shooters on a laptop with Intel GMA) yet I had no trouble even on impossible. That wasn't the most pleasant gaming experience, though, but it's still quite playable.
 

SuperDuperMe

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No one said anything about price comparison jonny. The comment i was referring to was essentially saying, regardless of price they all do the same thing. Which is completely incorrect. And anyone who thinks you can play a game 25fps is kidding themselves.

Just out of curiosity have you ever played arma 2? I play that game at 20fps-25fps. And its more playable than modern warfare 2 at 40fps. If you have a look on the BIS forums that is considered a decent fps for that game. I dont dispute that 60fps looks fantastic. But saying a game is unplayable is quite misleading. Especially to all these people now thinking they need 3xgtx 580's just to game.

Its quite sad really as some of us dont have the money for decent hardware. And if i was new to the forum looking at this id be put off pc gaming by the constant "you need 60 fps or gtfo" that you seem to throw about.

Just to reiterate, im not saying 60 fps isn't the dogs bollocks but i am saying you dont need it to have a good time. I rarely get more than 40 fps in most games if im lucky and i still have a whale of a time gaming. The only game i feel like i could do with more fps is cod 6, but i dont play it anymore so its not a problem for me.
 

SMGOwnage

New Member
I was able to play mineraft at 20 fps for over 2 months, and was plenty enjoyable, then I upgraded my computer and I get way better framerates but with my old HP system(yep, you heard right, a HP) I still enjoyed playing it at 20-30 fps.
 

SuperDuperMe

New Member
ArmA at 20FPS is not playable unless you absolutely don't give a shit. HAHHAHA what a joke.

You obviously havent played ARMA 2 or visited the forums. The tweak guide on the BIS forums, generally contributed to by some of the best scripters, mod makers, and players of arma 2 think the exact opposite as you. Fair enough, they probably dont play it at 20-25 fps. But they can appreciate that its playable. I think with you, your agrument is a proxy for you being able to stick your nose up at people. Just my opinion. But as seen on many threads theres no arguing with you or reasoning.



haha ok minecraft


Sort of proves my point about sticking your nose up at people. My observation is your very snotty about anyone who doesnt have the best of the best.
 

Okedokey

Well-Known Member
No its just 20FPS is not playable on any first person shooter no matter how much your ghetto gear wants it to be. Don't make this personal mofo, coz 20fps is shit/

30fps is the standard bottom line for fps games, period, not my benchmark. If you think that 20-25fps on ARMA is acceptable well fine, but that doesn't make it a recommended standard.

That is why all computer hardware publishing rates 30fps as the absolute minimum, and less than that is considered unplayable - especially ARMA.
 
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