Which RAM?

Gun

Member
Hey Everyone

I'm not sure which and how much RAM to get. All my parts including the RAM I was planning on getting are in my signature. I thought 8GB would be enough but now I'm not so sure. I don't use Photoshop or any of those programs on a regular basis, although I would like to use them in the future. As you can see, I was going to get Kingston ram, but now I'm thinking about Corsair. Keep in mind that if I was sticking with 8GB I would like it to be under $70 if possible.
 

spirit

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Staff member
8GB is more than enough. I used 8GB very happily for over a year. Only get more than 8GB if you're trying to run multiple virtual machines at once or encoding large HD videos or stuff like that. For gaming and most other things, 8GB is fine.

I have the same RipJaws-X RAM which John linked to, that's good stuff. I'd say go ahead and buy 2x4GB RJ-X DIMMs. :)
 

Gun

Member
OK Thanks. Does it matter that it says: "Designed specifically for use with the Intel P67 chipset and Socket LGA1155 processors." I do have a 1155 socket processor but does it matter that my chipset is Z77, not P67?

EDIT: Also, if I'm getting two sticks, which slots should I put them in? The motherboard manual says slots 1 and 2, just checking if that's the best way to do it.

I've been making a lot of threads lately. Should I just post it all in the same thread?

These are my next couple of questions:
If I'm not overclocking, is this CPU right or should I go for an i5 or something a bit cheaper? Intel. Not AMD.
Is the SSD in my signature good? I want 120GB, could I get better for around the same price? (On pccasegear.com please).
Would the stock CPU fan be OK, or should I get something different. If so, which CPU fan should I get?

Refer to my signature for my list of parts. Please don't give me advice on something I've already purchased :).

Sorry for asking so many questions, but I really want my build to be the best for the price.

Thanks guys :)
 
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StrangleHold

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The memory will be fine with the board.

Didnt look the board up. But the manual will tell you if your suppost to put the memory in slot 1/2 or 1/3 for Dual Channel.

Depends, if your wanting Hyper Threading and not overclocking the 3770 will be fine. If you dont need Hyper Threading and might overclock in the future you could save some with the 3570K.

The size of the SSD is up to you and your size needs. If you can get another one bigger for the same price, go for it. As long as its a quality drive.

If your not overclocking the stock fan will be fine.
 
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Gun

Member
The memory will be fine with the board.

Didnt look the board up. But the manual will tell you if your suppost to put the memory in slot 1/2 or 1/3 for Dual Channel.

Depends, if your wanting Hyper Threading and not overclocking the 3770 will be fine. If you dont need Hyper Threading and might overclock in the future you could save some with the 3570K.

The size of the SSD is up to you and your size needs. If you can get another one bigger for the same price, go for it. As long as its a quality drive.

If your not overclocking the stock fan will be fine.

Ok :). Which brand of SSD do you think is best? I was thinking maybe Intel, Corsair or Crucial but I'm not sure. Can you link me to an SSD which you think is good?, 120GB please.

Thanks :)
 
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Shoorik

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Or you could get 16GB 1333MHz RAM (5 star rated) for $79 + free shipping. The RAM timing is also 9-9-9-25. It comes in 2 X 8 sticks, this will also give you the option to upgrade to 32 GB in the future by buying another set of these sticks if you want.

$79 + free shipping.



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Gun

Member
Hmmm OK, I'll have to think about it. At the moment I'm really not sure about my CPU. The CPU I was planning on getting was the Intel Core i7 3770. I'm going a bit over my budget and now I'm wonering if I should get an i5 instead. Is there a big difference between the i7 3770 and maybe one of the best i5s? I'm not overclocking.

Also, don't recommend an AMD card. :p

Thanks
 

Shoorik

New Member
Maybe you should go for this SSD:

It's not as fast as the Crosair GT according to the benchmarks.

Corsair Force GT: 2,870
SanDisk SDSSDX120GG25: 2,681

But it is a little cheaper and more reliable according to the customer's reviews. This version of SanDisk SSD has a solid 5 star rating.



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But if you want to go with the Corsair Force GT, buy it on Amazon, it's cheaper and the return policy is better than Newegg.



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Gun

Member
Hmmm OK, I'll have to think about it. At the moment I'm really not sure about my CPU. The CPU I was planning on getting was the Intel Core i7 3770. I'm going a bit over my budget and now I'm wonering if I should get an i5 instead. Is there a big difference between the i7 3770 and maybe one of the best i5s? I'm not overclocking.

Also, don't recommend an AMD card. :p

Thanks
Please answer this question! :p Sorry, I don't meant to be pushy, but I'm really stuck on this one and I think the CPU is the next part I'm going to buy.
 

Shoorik

New Member
Yes, there is a significant difference between the Intel Core i7 3770 processor and the highest rated Intel Core i5 (Intel Core i5 3570K).

According to the benchmarks, the scores are as follows:

Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz: 10,474
Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz: 7,733

A 2,741 (around 26.12%) difference in processing.

But the Intel Core i5-3570K is also $87 (around 27.44%) cheaper than the Intel Core i7-3770.

Again, the prices on Amazon are a little cheaper than on Newegg and the return policy is also better.

Intel Core i7-3770
$316.99



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Core i5-3570K
$229.99



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Gun

Member
Yes, there is a significant difference between the Intel Core i7 3770 processor and the highest rated Intel Core i5 (Intel Core i5 3570K).

According to the benchmarks, the scores are as follows:

Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz: 10,474
Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz: 7,733

A 2,741 (around 26.12%) difference in processing.

But the Intel Core i5-3570K is also $87 (around 27.44%) cheaper than the Intel Core i7-3770.

Again, the prices on Amazon are a little cheaper than on Newegg and the return policy is also better.

Intel Core i7-3770
$316.99



http://amzn.to/MACDm0

Core i5-3570K
$229.99



http://amzn.to/KVxDdz

Hmm. Guess I've got something to think about then.
 

Shoorik

New Member
They are both good Processors. However, the Processor is probably the most crucial part of the computer, and if you use a lot of intense graphics (video editing, intense gaming, etc.), then the same concept would probably go for the Graphics Card as well.

But keep in mind, you do not want your Processor and Graphics Card to greatly outperform your other components like the Hard Drive or RAM. This could cause bottle necking on your machine as a whole (which means that while your Processor and Graphics Card are able to perform their tasks with ease, the Hard Drive and RAM are not able to keep up with them. So, with that being said, the Graphics Card and the Processor will NOT be able to perform at their peak performance because the Hard Drive and/or the RAM will be holding them back, even if they [the Processor and the Graphics Card] are top-notch components). So, I would say that whatever your budget allows, do not overspend on one item, but distribute the quality equally among the RAM, Hard Drive, Processor, and the Graphics Card.

Of course, also have a motherboard which is able to support the features you want (it doesn't have to be too expensive, but make sure it supports the amount of RAM you want and the RAM MHz [e.g. 1333, 1600] as well as other features you want to incorporate into your machine). Make sure the motherboard (like all other parts) has a good rating from previous users and read what they had to say about it, especially the ones who gave the item a bad rating (sometimes these reasons are absurd).

Also, do get a good rated PSU (Power Supply), and again, this probably does not have to be too expensive either, but it is still a part of the computer which should not be taken for granted because you want to protect your computer's components. For your machine, which has a good Processor and a good Graphics Card, you should probably get a Power Supply that is at least 600W (maybe even more), I would say. And again, make sure it has a good rating from previous customers.

Hope this helps, and anyone, please correct me if I have stated any misinformation.
 
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claptonman

New Member
Difference between the i5 and i7 is the i7 has hyperthreading. If all you're doing is gaming, the i5 is enough.
 

spirit

Moderator
Staff member
I use the Adobe suite just fine on my overclocked 2500K which is an i5, you may want to go for the 3770K if you're doing a lot of rendering.

Really though, there isn't much difference at all. If you're on a budget then an i5 2500K or an i5 3570K would still be fine, especially if you overclock it.

I know there was some discussion about SSDs earlier; I can recommend the Crucial M4 and the SanDisk Extreme myself. Both are very fast and both are faster than the Corsair Force 3. Both are very stable too. Dad has the Extreme and the I have the M4 and there's not a lot of difference in the real world, but on paper the SanDisk Extreme is the faster of the pair.
 
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