New Xbox revealed!

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Yeah but the Xbox will charge to so no it doesn't.

One less plus for the ps4 closes the gap in my eyes. Either way Sony is far ahead of the Xbox. It will be interesting to see if all the talk is supported by sales figures come the holidays. Xbox may surprise a lot of us and sell very well.
 

tech savvy

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I also don't like how you can't trade games or rent them. They go with one console only so goodbye gamefly. I feel xbox is trying to force us into a internet world when it isn't ready.

That is NOT true. Microsoft said there will be no limit on how you use your games, it's going to be the same as now! You can trade, sell, or buy used...nothing changing on that part.

Also, Microsoft is offering TWO free games a month for Gold Members. If your a member, you can get Fable III now for FREE.
 

jamesd1981

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I would never have bought the xbox over ps4 anyway, but anyone who ends up buying an xbox now just because microsoft have back tracked is a total mug.

They have not listened and back tracked because they give a damn about their customers, they are only doing it because they could see they were going to get slaughtered by sony.

They were quite happy to try to impose there controls and shaft loyal xbox users, so don`t be a mug and now they have back tracked say aw well that`s ok no harm done, remember the xbox 360 is for offline users comments or how about the claim that drm was built into the console and could not just be switched off, well it seems like it was simple enough to switch off when they had to.
 

Troncoso

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That is NOT true. Microsoft said there will be no limit on how you use your games, it's going to be the same as now! You can trade, sell, or buy used...nothing changing on that part.

Also, Microsoft is offering TWO free games a month for Gold Members. If your a member, you can get Fable III now for FREE.

Way to kiss Microsoft ass... the only notable features of the XBox One have been the ones they've ripped off from Sony. Now they have this, which might I add is only for 6 months. This is definitely no competition to Sony's PS+.

And as James said, they give us candy after smacking us in the face, and you just act like they never hit you in the first place.

I don't have a problem with Microsoft, but they make it clear that gaming just isn't their industry.
 

Justin

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That is NOT true. Microsoft said there will be no limit on how you use your games, it's going to be the same as now! You can trade, sell, or buy used...nothing changing on that part.

Also, Microsoft is offering TWO free games a month for Gold Members. If your a member, you can get Fable III now for FREE.

He wrote that post waaaaay before they changed their policy on used games.

Also, Microsoft is only offering free games up to the end of the year.
 

Okedokey

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Pff... at best it's a HTPC from 5-10 years ago... Same old crap wrapped up in a different designed box.

What are you on about? It will smoke your PC anyday.

Its x86 parts, quite modern and coded to the metal. It will run fine.

The two systems are almost identical inside, same cpu, same ram etc. Only real difference is GDDR5 in the PS4 (why i don't know) and GDDR3 in the xbox, although the xbox has SRAM (~64mb) used for the swapping between apps.

What im looking forward to is when windows is installed on them for benchmarking.
 
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Troncoso

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What are you on about? It will smoke your PC anyday.

Its x86 parts, quite modern and coded to the metal. It will run fine.

The two systems are almost identical inside, same cpu, same ram etc. Only real difference is GDDR5 in the PS4 (why i don't know) and GDDR3 in the xbox, although the xbox has SRAM (~64mb) used for the swapping between apps.

What im looking forward to is when windows is installed on them for benchmarking.

The CPU isn't the same. The XBox One has some custom Microsoft CPU. We haven't really seen benchmarks to know how it compares to the "Jaguar" processor that the PS4 will use.

Also, XBox has DDR3, not GDDR3.
 

spirit

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They only got rid of the DRM crap because yeah, they realized the PS4 was going to outsell the Xbox.
 

Darren

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Also, Microsoft is offering TWO free games a month for Gold Members. If your a member, you can get Fable III now for FREE.

Free copy of Fable 3 isn't really a selling point.

The only reasons I want new consoles as they'll push the envelop for graphics and overall game quality on the PC side as well. A lot of my friends are talking about it and I'm just like "I don't really care as long as my PC graphics look good".

If I was to buy one though it would be the PS4.
 

Okedokey

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The CPU isn't the same. The XBox One has some custom Microsoft CPU. We haven't really seen benchmarks to know how it compares to the "Jaguar" processor that the PS4 will use.

Also, XBox has DDR3, not GDDR3.

Nonsense. Both have an eight core AMD “Jaguar” CPU and secondly the graphics portion uses DDR3, making it GDDR3. Nothing different to what i said.
 
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jonnyp11

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Xbox has 768 gpu cores and ps4 has 1154, 1.5 times more.

You people all look at this in the wrong light. With the masses on a more capable platform, AI and graphics will take leaps ahead in the next year or 2 since the 99% of their profits will be able to use them. And since devs have said they moved the OSs to a more windows like coding and it is easier to port them around and stuff (think i read something along those lines), devs will be more willing to advance past the capabilities of consoles for computers since it will take less work
 

StrangleHold

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Pretty sure they have the same Jaguar 8 core CPU. Miroshaft can claim there is a custom Microsoft CPU, but I'm sure sony had the same input, which means they are noting but both custom AMD APU X86/64. Sony has them beat with DDR5 vs. DDR3, but heard the microshaft has lower timming. But sony does have the better GPU.
 

tech savvy

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Look, yall can say all ya'll want about microsoft, while yall reply using windows, l0l. When you compare the consoles side by side, features vs feature, etc. Xbox One has this generation rapped. Microsoft is trying to combined all what they offer through one seemlessly unit, which is great.

Everyone is crying over all the extra features Microsoft is bringing to the new Xbox, why?!? I don't get it. Even without the extra features, you still going to get the same game play. The only thing that I can come up with is, if they didnt have all the features it would cost less. What, like $100 less? I'll pay the extra $100 and get all those extra features!

The PS4 has shown nothing remotely interesting.
 

Okedokey

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Regardless of the differences, the xbox is a lot better than most of the computers on this forum for gaming and secondly, the devs will code for the lowest common denominator. That being the xbox. So its a pointless argument.
 

spirit

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Everyone is crying over all the extra features Microsoft is bringing to the new Xbox, why?!? I don't get it. Even without the extra features, you still going to get the same game play. The only thing that I can come up with is, if they didnt have all the features it would cost less. What, like $100 less? I'll pay the extra $100 and get all those extra features!
Main thing is very few people are actually interested in these features, and since they are being forced on them, they have to pay more.

I wouldn't pay $100 more fore stuff I wasn't going to use.
 

mihir

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Look, yall can say all ya'll want about microsoft, while yall reply using windows, l0l. When you compare the consoles side by side, features vs feature, etc. Xbox One has this generation rapped. Microsoft is trying to combined all what they offer through one seemlessly unit, which is great.

The PS4 has shown nothing remotely interesting.

WRONG.

Everyone is crying over all the extra features Microsoft is bringing to the new Xbox, why?!? I don't get it. Even without the extra features, you still going to get the same game play. The only thing that I can come up with is, if they didnt have all the features it would cost less. What, like $100 less? I'll pay the extra $100 and get all those extra features!

And the extra features which escalate the prices are also not needed by many. They should be optional like in all the previous generations. If you are ready to pay $100, you cannot extrapolate it to all the people. In a similar way I cannot extrapolate my desire of not paying the extra $100. But eitherways there are enough people who don't want to spend the extra $100 to get those extra features, to warrant two editions of the XBOX ONE atleast.
 

Troncoso

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There are hundreds that agree that Sony clearly has the next generation of consoles, but there is always that one guy that is convinced otherwise. That, or he is just trying to be the underdog because it warrants more attention.
 

jonnyp11

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There are hundreds that agree that Sony clearly has the next generation of consoles, but there is always that one guy that is convinced otherwise. That, or he is just trying to be the underdog because it warrants more attention.

This, xbox is weaker (less gpu cores and cpu cores are split between 2 VMs) and you're paying 100 for a kinect that is only used by children, no real games exist to make people want it, it's best hit was fable the journey IIRC and for regular games it was rated like 7 or so i think (granted its cam has gone from 640*480 to 1080p).

The one thing microsoft did right that i see is they bought all the exclusive games so they look better, but sony will come back with more great games.
 

tech savvy

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I think why they are charging $499 for the Xbox One is because of the Kinect that comes with it.

I do agree, they should sell the Kinect separately, to drop the price down to $449-399. The Kinect should be an option add-on, not mandatory. I will probably use the Kinect very little, and woundnt get it if it was sold separately.

But back to Xbox One vs PS4. Look, I watched both reveils, Xbox One and PS4, and from what I seen, Xbox One is ahead. Now, don't get wrong, before I show the reveil for the Xbox One, I was set on getting the PS4, do to me thinking Microsoft isnt bringing anything new to the table, but I was wrong.

They both offer great grahics, design, and features. But... the Xbox just offers alot more, and appeal to a bigger audience. They made it that way so gamers and non-gamers can both get something out of it, let it be for movies, music, DVR...you know, HTPC.
 
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