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Troncoso

Troncoso

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tech savvy said:
They made it that way so gamers and non-gamers can both get something out of it, let it be for movies, music, DVR...you know, HTPC.
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That's a flaw. Microsoft is always about trying to please everyone with every product they release. It works fine for Windows, because everyone uses a computer now. The XBox is a GAMING console. Not an HTPC. You can buy products to be an HTPC for less than the XBox One, so there is no reason for non-gamers to buy it. The fact that they are pushing those useless features so hard (TV, Sports, blah blah) is hurting them more than helping. Gamers want content that applies to games and enhances their gaming experience. No one cares that you can watch movies on it, because you can watch movies on any device that can connect to the Internet. And TV? Well, that's what...you know...cable is for.

As I said before, Microsoft is not a company that should be in the gaming industry. They clearly don't understand the user base well enough to please them.
 
Hyper_Kagome

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StrangleHold said:
Looks as if after microsoft drop all the rules, the first day afterward its preorder sales topped the PS.
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I can GUARANTEE that the Xbox One pre-orders are NOWHERE close to the Playstation 4's, even after the 180 they took.

Nowhere close.
Yes pre-orders have increased, but not dramatically. And they won't for awhile. They made their change yes, but too late in my opinion. They lost their footing and it'll take a while to gain that ground back. A couple days after orders started and I'm sure they'd have been fine.
But over a week after orders started? They were too slow, and due to that lost a lot of ground.

Order ratios are EASILY 3:1, if not more.
 
Okedokey

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Hyper_Kagome said:
I can GUARANTEE that the Xbox One pre-orders are NOWHERE close to the Playstation 4's, even after the 180 they took.

Nowhere close.
Yes pre-orders have increased, but not dramatically. And they won't for awhile. They made their change yes, but too late in my opinion. They lost their footing and it'll take a while to gain that ground back. A couple days after orders started and I'm sure they'd have been fine.
But over a week after orders started? They were too slow, and due to that lost a lot of ground.

Order ratios are EASILY 3:1, if not more.
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Based on what? The side of the bed you woke up on?

Xbox One preorders jump past PlayStation 4 after Microsoft drops DRM
 
Hyper_Kagome

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Okedokey said:
Based on what? The side of the bed you woke up on?

Xbox One preorders jump past PlayStation 4 after Microsoft drops DRM
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Company pre-orders based on a store-by-store basis on the North Side of the US Border.
And very TIGHT allocation to start off with via Microsoft.

Smartass. :rolleyes:

Also note is states only AMAZON's numbers.
I'd be surprised if Amazon can cover all orders after all is said and done seeing as the One has been heavily allocated to walk-in retailers. If they can, good on 'em.
 
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Okedokey

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Hyper_Kagome said:
Company pre-orders based on a store-by-store basis on the North Side of the US Border.
And very TIGHT allocation to start off with via Microsoft.

Smartass. :rolleyes:

Also note is states only AMAZON's numbers.
I'd be surprised if Amazon can cover all orders after all is said and done seeing as the One has been heavily allocated to walk-in retailers. If they can, good on 'em.
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So mate, you saying that without any proof whatsoever, even though I have provide evidence to the contrary, you're guess is right? Ok. LOL!

Please provide any scrap of evidence that PS4 is selling (preorder) higher numbers let alone the 3:1 ratio that you pulled out of your backside.
 
Aastii

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Okedokey said:
So mate, you saying that without any proof whatsoever, even though I have provide evidence to the contrary, you're guess is right? Ok. LOL!

Please provide any scrap of evidence that PS4 is selling (preorder) higher numbers let alone the 3:1 ratio that you pulled out of your backside.
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She works for a games retailer in Canada. Whilst it is only one sample of stores, other chains wont be too dissimilar, so it is hardly "pulled from her backside". I would believe that there is a large allocation to stores as she states, as it should be known to be so by someone that deals with them, so it would be a little selective to only look at online sales from a single vendor just for the sake of "proving" a point.
 
Hyper_Kagome

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Okedokey said:
So mate, you saying that without any proof whatsoever, even though I have provide evidence to the contrary, you're guess is right? Ok. LOL!

Please provide any scrap of evidence that PS4 is selling (preorder) higher numbers let alone the 3:1 ratio that you pulled out of your backside.
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Amazon.COM has even sold out of the LAUNCH PS4, whereas the Xbox One has not, unless it just recently has. Annnnnd I could post photographic evidence from HO communications from the many various numbers that CEO, PA, Buyers, RM, DM, and whatnot send... buuuuuuut I'd rather not risk my job and position.

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Aastii said:
She works for a games retailer in Canada. Whilst it is only one sample of stores, other chains wont be too dissimilar, so it is hardly "pulled from her backside". I would believe that there is a large allocation to stores as she states, as it should be known to be so by someone that deals with them, so it would be a little selective to only look at online sales from a single vendor just for the sake of "proving" a point.
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And thank you Aastii. I appreciate it.

Let's not forget all other retailers:
Amazon.ca
Newegg.com/ca
EB Games
Gamestop
Target
Best Buy
Future Shop
Independent Game Stores (most locally owned) IF they can get any confirmation on launch consoles.
Walmart
Game UK
And various other places.

And my store alone?
Triple digits PS4, double digits Xbox One (BELOW 40).

Die hard Sony/Microsoft/ PC "Master Race" make me shake my head. Even when faced with truth they still seem to stand strong and disbelieve everything else other than their own findings.
 
jonnyp11

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But it is better, it has been able to do everything they will do and more, and my multiple gen old computer is stronger than the one and almost as strong as the ps4
 
Troncoso

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Yes. It's so much better that developers choose to build games like Halo 4 or The Last of Us for PC.

Oh. They don't. While I like gaming on my PC, it comes with a lot of flaws. That's why consoles exist, so we can have a dedicated gaming medium. You need to stop being so easily influenced by the Internet.
There is a place and market for everything that these companies make, else they wouldn't make them and they wouldn't be successful, and there wouldn't be a thread about it because no one would care.
 
Hyper_Kagome

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Troncoso said:
Yes. It's so much better that developers choose to build games like Halo 4 or The Last of Us for PC.

Oh. They don't. While I like gaming on my PC, it comes with a lot of flaws. That's why consoles exist, so we can have a dedicated gaming medium. You need to stop being so easily influenced by the Internet.
There is a place and market for everything that these companies make, else they wouldn't make them and they wouldn't be successful, and there wouldn't be a thread about it because no one would care.
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+1. Thank you.
 
jonnyp11

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I never said there was no point in consoles, it's easier and more convenient at times and more relaxing as most people lay down on the couch or have a nice chair rather than being hunched over. I do get why we have them and that it is the best choice for some people. But console exclusive games are just...frustrating. But i'd much rather take the price of a console, add 3 or 400 that someone'd spend on a new computer, and now you have a beast of a gamer and a super fast computer and only ne thing to mess with rather than 2

And the original comment was meant as more of a joke
 
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CrazyMike

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Hate to interrupt this argument but I was just wondering if any word of Tom Clancy's: Division coming to the PC. Last I heard was that they were thinking about it. Any confirmed reports? I'd love to play the game, but no way am I buying a One or PS4.
 
Okedokey

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Aastii said:
She works for a games retailer in Canada. Whilst it is only one sample of stores, other chains wont be too dissimilar, so it is hardly "pulled from her backside". I would believe that there is a large allocation to stores as she states, as it should be known to be so by someone that deals with them, so it would be a little selective to only look at online sales from a single vendor just for the sake of "proving" a point.
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Still havent seen any evidence to support the 3:1 ratio. Nothing.

And so what if she works for a games retailer! Whoopdy doo! Thats an even smaller sample.

Im saying that whatever the reality, we have a large retailer who has come out and said Xbox one is selling higher numbers and to date no one has provided anything but conjecture to counterpoint.

Thats my point.

Honestly i couldn't care less about the consoles or their sales, I think theyre a blight on the gaming industry, but I just hate it when people pull numbers out of their backside with no evidence and claim its fact.
 
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Punk

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Troncoso said:
Yes. It's so much better that developers choose to build games like Halo 4 or The Last of Us for PC.

Oh. They don't. While I like gaming on my PC, it comes with a lot of flaws. That's why consoles exist, so we can have a dedicated gaming medium. You need to stop being so easily influenced by the Internet.
There is a place and market for everything that these companies make, else they wouldn't make them and they wouldn't be successful, and there wouldn't be a thread about it because no one would care.
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exactly, while I enjoy gaming on my PC, a console is better for games. It is made for games after all, PC isn't just for games. I mean in order to keep playing new games at good quality you'll need to buy new components regularly, while you only pay once every five years for an up to date console...
 
PCunicorn

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I completely disagree. Consoles nowadays are not just for gaming, either. A PC can game just as good as a console and better, and the flaws it does have are not because a PC isn't made for gaming.
 
Punk

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PCunicorn said:
I completely disagree. Consoles nowadays are not just for gaming, either. A PC can game just as good as a console and better, and the flaws it does have are not because a PC isn't made for gaming.
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That's true for high end PCs, the cost of a console isn't as big as a good up to date gaming PC.

Console nowadays are either for gaming or for multimedia playing. They shouldn't become like PCs, we already have those.
 
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