Ubuntu 14.04LTS

ivtec

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I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 Beta1 on Intel I5 PC, and Xubuntu 14.04 Beta2 on a old Dell p4 and i'm so happy so far ,no bugs found yet, i have run 13.10 before and it had bugs,i have to add that this edition 14.04 is i'd say 80% better then 12.04.
 

DMGrier

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See I think everyone experience is different, 13.10 was far more stable for me then 13.04 and 12.04. Isn't Unity 8 available for testing in 14.04? Have any of you played with Unity 8 yet? I thought I have heard in 14.04 Unity 8 would be available for testing and I am curious for it as from the video's I have seen I don't feel to impressed, might just start using Xubuntu and add the whiskers menu for some polish.
 

ivtec

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See I think everyone experience is different, 13.10 was far more stable for me then 13.04 and 12.04. Isn't Unity 8 available for testing in 14.04? Have any of you played with Unity 8 yet? I thought I have heard in 14.04 Unity 8 would be available for testing and I am curious for it as from the video's I have seen I don't feel to impressed, might just start using Xubuntu and add the whiskers menu for some polish.

I never used Unity in 12.04 not in 14.04 i always used.Gnome-Session-Fallback ,(Metacity)
call me old but this is what i like,Xubuntu 14.04 is also a good choice with it's XFCE4,i use it on a low end hardware P4 and it's great,but on my Intel i5 i use Ubuntu 14.04 with Gnome,but if i want Unity i just log out and boom i'm on Unity.

sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-appmenu
sudo andapt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
 
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DMGrier

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I guess I will have to test Unity 8, all my computers have "i" series processors with HD graphics. I am more of a modern UI person myself, I like Xubuntu layout with the whisker menu but prefer Unity, gnome and kde over xfce, lxde and gnome fall back.
 

DMGrier

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Well I just installed 14.04 Beta on it on my new Lenovo, I am excited how everything is working out of the box which is nice since I usually have problems with Atheros wireless cards but this one worked right out of the install which is nice.

Only complaint is I wish they would just rebuild the app store, everything else looks good but that thing is still slow and as buggy as ever before. I primarily install through command line but just wish they would build a decent app store.

Also find it interesting they closed down Ubuntu One, sucks as that was a good way for them to make money.
 

spirit

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I've never ever used Ubuntu or any form of Linux as a primary OS on my any of computers (apart from arguably the Raspberry Pi but that's hardly a 'daily driver'), but Ubuntu 14.04 looks cool. I like the look of the Cairo Desktop. Will probably download it when the stable version is released and try in VMware. :)
 

salvage-this

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VMs are ok but you won't really see the speed that you would have if you installed it to your drive. When I tried it out a long time ago I just installed it to a leftover laptop drive. Much better way to do it if you want to see it in full speed.
 

DMGrier

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Agreed to the lack of performance you get out of a virtual machines as they just don't do any operating system justice. Though they are good for work like Windows in a VM for Linux users who need Windows every once in a while or if you are just wanting to see the features over performance of something like the new Ubuntu release.

This will be one of the most stable releases of Ubuntu since not many new features have been added and Ubuntu really won't be getting to many new features until sometime after 2015 as that is when the convergence of code will be taking place. One feature worth mentioning I either read on OMG Ubuntu or heard on the Linux Action Show was this release is suppose to offer some form of auto trim for SSD making it easier on end users.
 

spirit

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Staff member
VMs are ok but you won't really see the speed that you would have if you installed it to your drive. When I tried it out a long time ago I just installed it to a leftover laptop drive. Much better way to do it if you want to see it in full speed.

My virtualised operating systems seem to run fine in VMware 10 on an i5 2500K and usually have 2-4GB of dedicated RAM...
 

ivtec

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I guess I will have to test Unity 8, all my computers have "i" series processors with HD graphics. I am more of a modern UI person myself, I like Xubuntu layout with the whisker menu but prefer Unity, gnome and kde over xfce, lxde and gnome fall back.

I hate that wallpaper wisker on Xubuntu 14.04 beta2 like this better.
 
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DMGrier

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Well I just tested Unity 8, from my understanding the one available for testing in 14.04 is not the one they want to ship for the desktop, it is the one available for phone and tablet right now. They are making it available for 14.04 so we can see how they are going to shape it for the 16.04 release for non touch devices. I am interested to get more details as the something I just read is Unity 8 will drop compiz.

IF you are interested in trying it out just install it via
Code:
sudo apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir
right now it does not support touch pads so you will have to use a mouse and I have no found out how to "log off" so the only way to get back into Unity 7 is to shutdown the machine and then choose Unity 7 to boot into.

For those more interested in what is going on with Ubuntu especially 14.04 here is the Keynote delivered by Mark Shuttleworth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWTVe5Mdv0Y&list=UUm7OifwnZoMCChidCJZQruQ
 

salvage-this

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So after the heartbleed open SSL stuff I decided to jump into the 14.04 beta on my desktop. Runs really well so far. There are definitely broken packages but that will get better with time.
 

bengal85

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I want to set up another virtual box so I can run ubuntu again....I remember liking it a lot so once I get the chance to play with it in a virtual environment again I may decide to install it over my windows 8 install.
 

DMGrier

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I wouldn't trade Windows 8 for Linux completely. Just set aside some space for Ubuntu and dual boot it.

I think that depends on the user needs, I only use Windows for some software in college like Microsoft Project. I rarely use Windows so I replaced Windows.

If I may ask why did heart bleed make you move to try the new Ubuntu? Heart Bleed is a security problem in open source.
 

salvage-this

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I think that depends on the user needs, I only use Windows for some software in college like Microsoft Project. I rarely use Windows so I replaced Windows.

If I may ask why did heart bleed make you move to try the new Ubuntu? Heart Bleed is a security problem in open source.

True. If I could trade Linux for Windows completely I would. I just have a few programs that do not want to play nice in Wine.

Ubuntu (and the variants) use open SSL since they are open source. Ubuntu 13.04 was not going to fix it since it was out of support now that 13.10 is here. I decided to update to the Beta to get the update when it is released.

you can check your version by running the command below:
Code:
openssl version

If it has not been updated, you will either need to manually recompile it with the heartbeats disabled or wait for the updated code to be released.
 

DMGrier

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14.04 released today. I am still waiting for them to release a new cinnamon ppa as it is not working currently for 14.04. I have also noticed better hardware support, with 12.04 I had to rig the wireless on my sons computer and we did a fresh install of 14.04 today on his computer and wireless support out of the box.
 
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