Bottlenecking?

Zaih

Member
I was just curious. Right now I have the GTX 650 in my build. But I just want to update my processor to a i7 4770k I wanted to know if it would be okay to just upgrade the processor but not the GPU? How bad would it bottleneck or what not etc...

Thanks,

Zaih
 

StrangleHold

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Kinda hard telling since we don't know what processor you have now. But sure you can upgrade your processor. No, it wont bottleneck a GTX 650.
 

Zaih

Member
Oh alright awesome. Well its actually a phenom II x4 955 black edition. Would it still be okay to upgrade?
 

spirit

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I don't think you'll see any major bottlenecks but bear in mind that the 650 isn't really that powerful, so for games you may be better off upgrading to a slightly more powerful video card regardless of what your CPU is if you feel that the performance isn't there.

If you're video editing though and using the 650 for CUDA or rendering then you shouldn't have a problem at all.
 

Zaih

Member
Oh alright well yeah I thought it would be a good idea too. But I am just on a budget at the time. What if I upgraded to like maybe the 750 ti? OR the 650 ti possibly? Which would be a better choice? Or if you have any recommendations I would certainly take them.

And no I am using it for gaming.

Thank you for all the help in advanced.
 

spirit

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If you're not using it for gaming then you don't have any reason to upgrade the 650 to anything else. :)
 

Okedokey

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Oh alright awesome. Well its actually a phenom II x4 955 black edition. Would it still be okay to upgrade?

If you're going form a phenom II to a 4470K, you're upgrading motherboard, OS and possible RAM as well??? You do know that the 4770K wont fit in your current motherboard... right?

If so, and you're you're looking for gaming performance, it might be better to leave the CPU alone, upgrade to a motherboard that supports it in the AM3+ range giving you further upgrade potential, and getting DDR3 vs DDR2 RAM and spending the remaining budget on extra GPU horsepower.

I think a budget and a current hardware list is essential to this advice.
 

Zaih

Member
I actually am going to use it for gaming. Thats why I want to upgrade.

Yes I know I have to upgrade my mobo I am already planning on doing that actually to a 1150 socket. And I have DDR3 RAM currently @ 1600.

Isn't this CPU old and outdated though? And I do want to switch to Intel to give it a try. For better performance and I wanted to switch it up so I can use my invidia with the intel CPU I would be getting. Hear they run smoother together. Such as a Radeon GPU and an AMD CPU.

But I do thank you for all of the advice. So what should I end up doing? Not upgrade and wait for a bigger budget? Or can I upgrade now and just upgrade my GPU later?
 

Okedokey

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Yeah that was where I was going, saves on a new Windows key, mobo etc and just get new CPU and GPU, selling the 650
 

spirit

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I actually am going to use it for gaming. Thats why I want to upgrade.
Sorry, I misread your last post. :eek:

Yeah if you want to game then upgrade to something like a GTX 760 or a Radeon R9 270X and then you can upgrade to a newer platform if you feel you need to. The Phenom II X4 will still be OK I think - it's not quite as weak as everybody seems to make it out to be. You can upgrade to the FX or go with Intel if you want, but ultimately the performance lies in the graphics card - the CPU should be second on your priorities. You can always try overclocking your Phenom to eek a bit of extra grunt out of it.

And no, Intel and GeForce does not run any smoother than AMD and Radeons - it doesn't matter at all what brand CPU or GPU you go for in this case. That's just a myth.

So I'd recommend upgrading your card first. You may find you don't even need to upgrade the CPU once you have a nicer graphics card. And no, the Phenom won't really be bottlenecking a 760 or a 270X at all.
 

spirit

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Yeah they are an upgrade, but get a better graphics card first and then see what the performance is like. You may find that you don't need a new board/CPU once you have a faster graphics card - or certainly not immediately.

You could try selling the 650. Give it a go...
 

Zaih

Member
They are for sure. I was thinking about just getting a better GPU but I was worried about CPU intensive games.
 

Zaih

Member
Just saw your last post. Sorry about that. Alright I think ill be looking at getting a new GPU instead and upgrade that now. And than possible upgrading the CPU in the future.
 

spirit

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Staff member
To be honest I think you'll be fine.

Get a new graphics card.

If you're not satisfied, go ahead and upgrade to FX or go with Intel.
 
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