Ubisoft games crashing since gp upgrade.

SketchSlayer

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Okay so I have upgraded from my apus built in gpu which someone metaphorically called a prius (my a10-6800k black) to a 780Ti which they compared to a cadilac

And since upgrading games run better as expected but the few ubisoft titles I tried (Watch_dogs & Far Cry 4) have crashed on loading the gameplay part (menus worked fine)

Watch_dogs crashes so hard my gpu driver needs to restart even but nothing else has any issues (hell dragon age inquisition runs alright on it and that was more of an issue for my apu than watch dogs was)

Is there anything ubisoft does differetly that could be the cause or am I a little screwed or something?
 
johnb35

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johnb35

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That unit is junk!!!

Only has 2 sata power connectors, 38 amps on the 12 volt rail. Any decent 650 watt power supply will have 50 amps on the 12 volt rail. I would return it and get something else. You don't want to skimp on a power supply, its the backbone of your system.
 
beers

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SketchSlayer said:
I got one of these coming as far as psu goes:
http://www.amazon.ca/Blue-Star-4-pin-Power-Supply/dp/B0050K3LPG
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johnb35 said:
That unit is junk!!!
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^ that man speaks the truth.
 
Darren

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Yeah that thing is crap. Also you can't use system requirements as much of an indication for what kind of power you'll pull. Get a Corsair CX600 and be done with it.
 
SketchSlayer

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With the splitters my machine uses 2 sata connectors isn't an issue and I'm not sinking much on the psu til I can afford something around 1200w

Anything in the area of 600w will be too weak for the machine eventually with the plans for the build anyway so why go for a half decent 600-700w psu when you'll ditch it within the year probably?

Also I'd say the motherboard is more the backbone than the psu as it limits everything you can use, poor mobo choice, looks like that card ain't gonna go in or looks like you didn't check ram type or socket or some shiz... psu is just a core part hardly one of the more important ones as long as it does the job eithercpu and gpu rank far above it in terms of importance as does the mobo.
 
just a noob

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Back up your data to somewhere offshore. Hard drives don't like unclean power or the ripples you can get with cheap power supplies.
I would also say that the power supply is the backbone, since it powers everything and determines if you can even run a stronger gpu.
 
SketchSlayer

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just a noob said:
Back up your data to somewhere offshore. Hard drives don't like unclean power or the ripples you can get with cheap power supplies.
I would also say that the power supply is the backbone, since it powers everything and determines if you can even run a stronger gpu.
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I don't carry any important data, and even if you had the best psu ever made if it goes with a mobo that can't take the gpu you have you are pretty screwed ya?
I just see the motherboard as a more key factor cause hell worst case you can still do stuff with onboards if need be
 
voyagerfan99

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You can fry anything your PSU connects to. Don't be cheap. Buy a decent PSU NOW or else you'll be sinking WAY more money down the road if that POS shits the bed.
 
johnb35

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The power supply is the backbone, end of story. It controls everything, motherboard, cpu, video card, cd drives, memory. Your cheap power supply may take out everything its attached to. Then what are you stuck with? You just don't go out and buy a cheap 680 watt power supply thinking it will handle everything without checking its specs.

Why buy a 1200 watt power supply? You plan on using 3-4 very high end video cards in sli or crossfire? Or have all the bells and whistles, led lights, 20 case fans, water cooling?

Obviously you have no idea what makes a computer. Every computer repair person will tell you the power supply is the most important part of your system. Not trying to put you down here just trying to get you to understand the importance of getting the right parts.
 
Agent Smith

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I would never skimp on a PSU. Bought my Antec Gamer 520 and have been a happy camper. Actually it's barley used and I only fire up the desktop for FS2004 mostly.
 
lincsman

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All you will need for the next few years is a good 700-800W PSU. Get a good one now and you'll be set for a long time. 5 years ago I bought a system with a 700W PSU and now I still have a 700W PSU that works for what I need. I'm telling you man, (or woman), get a high quality 700-800W power supply and you'll be set for a few years, and since a cheap one can fry your existing parts, including your motherboard, it's not worth the risk. Also saying that the power supply is not the backbone of your system is like saying that food and water are not as important as a good brain, yet if you are not getting the right nutrition your brain will cease to function properly. If you get a good power supply now, you will be able to make a whole new build in a couple of years and likely you will still be able to use it for that system.
 
SketchSlayer

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Controls is a bit of a loose term from what a psu does, limits sure maybe but provided it can output enough power then it will be able to do waht you need it to albiet maybe not as well as others, with the number of limits a motherboard controls... yeah.

Anyway the idea of getting something in the 1000-1200 range is more if I'm gonna sink much into a psu I'd be planning on keeping it and yes eventually I do play to probably have 3 gpus running sli once everything else is up to par cause hey some games come out with insanely bad optimization (looking at you ubisoft) or just require outright beasts to run them (take the witcher 2 when it came out).

And if the psu did manage to kill the mobo that would actually give me a reason to get a mobo with enough expansion ports and the like that doesn't have weird issues with the front panel audio (even msi support don't know the hell it has against my front panel).
 
SketchSlayer

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Darren said:
Did you replace the PSU or not.
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Yeah and since it's not worth putting wear on the card I switched it out for a 560 ti ds

Wondering if old amd drivers could be causing issues cause a differnt one showed up, after the opening cinematics for watch_dogs my machine straight up crashed (whereas with the igpu it would run albiet laggy)

also anyone know of a good place to get psus in nz (newegg and such rarely ship any this far from the u.s)?
I will need a better one (preferabbly with rather long cords) barely managed to get the mobo plugs where I need em)

Edit" seems every card issue I have had in this thread may have been due to various slightly unstable factory overclocks, underclocking below ref levels seems to have so far stabilized some things
 
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SketchSlayer

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Well.... there's some good news on the gpu crash front.

Seems it may have been psu related, card seems to be working with a psu I got from work free cause someone wanted us to get rid of their pc.

Now to source a new mobo...
 
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