Windows 10

Jiniix

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This OS is honestly extremely cluttered. I can't believe it takes like 6-7 more clicks for me to enable My Computer and the user folder on the desktop.
Instead of right clicking on the desktop, clicking Personalize and having the option in the left. Now it's just gone and in the new Settings. Going back to my initial reaction:
I don't understand why we need two Control Panels/Settings though, seems like a stupid idea to me.
I can tell I need to freshen up my Run commands.
Seems like a sturdy OS though, after you've spent three times the time it takes to set up Windows 7.
 

voyagerfan99

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Yeah, I hate that new personalization panel. They should keep everything in the control panel and other options (such as desktop icons, screen resolution, etc.) where they used to.
 

spirit

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Yeah gotta admit I don't get why there's two Control Panels (just like there was in 8.1). Would be easier to just keep to having one.
 

Geoff

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Anyone else have problems with not being able to search for applications? I click on the start menu, and if I type for example "Excel", it only allows me to search the web for it, and I have to manually open up the MS Office folder and then launch Excel.
 

spirit

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Anyone else have problems with not being able to search for applications? I click on the start menu, and if I type for example "Excel", it only allows me to search the web for it, and I have to manually open up the MS Office folder and then launch Excel.
Seems fine for me.



I have Cortana enabled but I don't think you need Cortana enabled in order to just search for apps and files on the machine.
 

Jiniix

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Did you just install the PC? It takes longer for indexing to be done than with Windows 7, I've noticed :D
Whenever I install a PC, the first thing I do is type "UAC" in the start.
Windows 7: Loading loading -> UAC
Windows 10: "Indexing is indexing, try again later"

Sort of related, but not the same. If you install desktop Skype, I can't figure out where the .exe is.
You can't make a desktop shortcut. If you 'Open at file location' it opens a folder with shortcuts. And you can't open that file location. Not a major problem, I just like having desktop shortcuts on my secondary monitor :)
 
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WhoX

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Anyone else have problems with not being able to search for applications? I click on the start menu, and if I type for example "Excel", it only allows me to search the web for it, and I have to manually open up the MS Office folder and then launch Excel.

Found this on the net. Some users said this corrected the problem.

Reinstall Cortana using the following procedure:

1. Open and elevated CMD window (rightclick --> run as admin)
2. Start powershell (type 'powershell' without quotes and press enter)
3. Run the command:

Get-AppXPackage -Name Microsoft.Windows.Cortana | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
 

beers

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This one is driving me crazy, it looks like if you close an application from the taskbar (ie, right click->Close) such as Notepad and it has a dialog, the window focus completely ignores the dialog box.

Pretty lame to have to re-focus manually in order to use a keyboard shortcut for the dialogbox controls, when the behavior as long as I can remember defaulted to the alerting window. :mad:
 

Geoff

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Seems fine for me.



I have Cortana enabled but I don't think you need Cortana enabled in order to just search for apps and files on the machine.
I get everything but the desktop app show up when I search, weird. I installed W10 a couple weeks ago too.
 

Jiniix

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Wauw, this really gets me.
Just installed Windows 10 on a ProBook 6550b. Did everything offline. Uninstalled all the "Get Skype", "Get Office" etc. Changed some settings, and when I rebooted (still 100% offline) they were back. I could uninstall them again. Holy cow, this is a major issue in my opinion.

Edit:
The more I use this OS the more I hate it.
Praise yourself lucky that you don't need a second language included. All I want is everything to be English and typing/clock/date to be Danish. Why should this be so hard?
I thought I had set it all up, everything looked good. But after a few restarts, suddenly Calculator was called Lommeregner, but Camera was still Camera (Kamera in Danish).
Calculator no longer responds to Start -> 'calc', which is how I have always opened it.
So I went digging again, and while in the settings I saw it pop up and say "Hey, you can change your Windows language to Danish!" (During clean installation I explicitly said English OS and Danish locale). It started doing it automatically!
Now it had changed a lot of my settings to Auto/Recommended rather than Danish.
And, I'm not even kidding, I change it back to Danish. Now it changes my clock from 24-hour format to AM/PM. That is exactly the opposite of what I asked it to do.

Rant done, but oh my god what are you doing Microsoft STAHP plz
I was seriously considering doing the upgrade this weekend - now I'm not. Gonna let it mature a few months...
 
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spirit

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Just curious - anybody here running Windows 10 with an AMD graphics card?

After some initial issues with NVIDIA drivers and 10, I got it going by installing 10 offline and installing NVIDIA's drivers offline. Just upgraded to the new NVIDIA drivers released today for Windows 10 through their 'GeForce Experience' software. I've used this methods lots of times on 8.1 and had no issues. As it was installing my monitor turned on and off (expected) but just like when I was having issues with NVIDIA drivers from Windows Update, it didn't come back on. Had to guess when the driver installation was done by looking at my HDD activity LED on my case. When it wasn't on I reset the PC and then it sat there and configured updates for a bit. Seems to be working OK now but have noticed Google Chrome has been freezing here and there since the upgrade to the newer drivers and there are some other instabilities.

Next time when GeForce Experience pops up and tells me there's an update for my drivers I'll manually download it from NVIDIA's site and install it offline I think, just to take Windows Update out the equation completely. That might be a better way to do it.

Anyway, I don't have a machine with an AMD GPU in it at the moment, but if anybody here is running 10 with an AMD card I'd be interested to hear how AMD's drivers are. NVIDIA's still need some time to mature IMO but maybe AMD have it cracked? Looking on the Twitter quite a few people are complaining about poor AMD drivers for Windows 10 too.
 

spirit

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Using a MSI Radeon HD 7790. It didn't find the driver automatically, had to download and install manually.
Lucky you! I think the drivers for NVIDIA cards that are on Windowsa Update are still the dud ones that can send your PC into automatic repair mode on start-up.
 

spirit

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Right ok so after that last update in which I had to guess when installation was finished because my monitor did not come back on, Google Chrome was freezing quite a bit. I downloaded the latest driver for my GTX 760 from the NVIDIA site, took my PC offline, rebooted into Safe Mode, used DDU to remove the drivers that were installed and then installed the drivers I downloaded, also offline. I'm up and running again now and it already seems better.

So if you have an NVIDIA card and you see the update to the latest driver come through GeForce Experience, I'd recommend downloading the driver from NVIDIA's site and installing it offline instead of upgrading through the GeForce Experience app. Using DDU is probably a bit unnecessary - I only used it because I thought the previous driver installation was damaged.
 

beers

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Just curious - anybody here running Windows 10 with an AMD graphics card?
Mine was pretty auto, too. It even installed the entire CCC suite off the bat with an older driver version. CFX by default, no real issues launching games or similar.
 

Jiniix

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I've installed it with GTX 460 without any issues (offline installation with newest W10 driver from NVIDIA) and various Intel onboard GPUs from Update. All has worked just fine.
 

spirit

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Yeah when I install NVIDIA drivers offline with the newest 10 driver it's fine. Wouldn't recommend doing it online because Windows Update will mess things up.

I've also not had a problem with Intel drivers. I've tried that on my Surface Pro, ThinkPad and an i7 3770 now (HD 4400 and 4600).
 

Geoff

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It found the drivers automatically for my 7970. I had install failures on Windows 8.1 and 10 with trying to install them from the AMD website. The driver issues alone are enough for me to switch to nVidia for my next video card.
 

Aastii

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Mine was pretty auto, too. It even installed the entire CCC suite off the bat with an older driver version. CFX by default, no real issues launching games or similar.

Yep same here, drivers seem pretty solid to me, games are performing just as well under 10 as they were on 7 and no crashes or dodgy behaviour yet
 
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