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Punk

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I just installed it on my old desktop and it looks good but yeah nothing groundbreaking. I don't have any compatibility issues yet. I might update my laptop after the "end of semesters" exams as I need to be able to use the laptop and access all my Uni lectures. Still unsure if I'll do it or not but the good experience I have on my desktop is making me lean towards upgrading.
My new desktop will probably stay under 8.1 Pro though.
 

johnb35

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So I figured I would install it on my windows 7 system which I did a fresh install back on November 15th. I start the update, tells me it can't determine if I have enough space available. I research the error and basically find out that you need to disconnect any external drives and such. I disconnect by external drive and it gets past that point. It reboots to actually start installing 10 and then comes up with an error code of this.

0xc1900101-0x2000c

Looked it up and a few different things to try to solve this.

1. Uninstall antivirus program. Uninstalled avast.
2. Check to make sure you have enough free space. I do.
3. Run sfc /scannow to check for errors. Did and no errors.

Why did I even bother try upgrading??? I really don't want to do a clean install. I guess I will try doing it again tomorrow. Anyone else having upgrade issues?
 

johnb35

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Did some more troubleshooting this morning and found out that it was a windows update issue why 10 wouldn't finish upgrading. However, the radeon settings software (cnext.exe) is causing a bad image error at bootup, I've disabled the startup program to see if that fixes it. I'm curious to see if having 10 installed will fix some of the video playback issues in Pale Moon, only time will tell. Really don't like the start menu so I've got classic shell installed. Just have to reinstall Avast now.
 

Okedokey

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Once you're activated, id recommend a clean install John. The update process works well, but its just a ticking time-bomb in my experience. I prefer clean, updated installs.
 

johnb35

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Yep, thats my plan, eventually. My GF has been playing Star Wars Battlefront on my pc since she doesn't have a good video card to play it. I have to read up on how to backup her game and the progress, haven't done it in a few years. I just want to sort of try it out on my system first.
 

spirit

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Once you're activated, id recommend a clean install John. The update process works well, but its just a ticking time-bomb in my experience. I prefer clean, updated installs.
Yeah I haven't done an upgrade to 10 on any of my PCs. Clean installation every time. I did upgrade my brother's PC from 8.1 Pro to 10 Pro though and it's fine but the difference is he only has a few programs on his PC: just stuff like Office, iTunes, Chrome, anti-virus and that's about it. I've got a lot of other stuff.

I've always preferred doing clean installations of Windows.
 

Punk

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I've updated my laptop, no problems so far and running Avast.

If I run into problems I'll probably clean install it but as of now, everything is fine :)
 

johnb35

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Just upgraded to 10 on my GF's pc and no issues on that one thankfully. Installed classic shell on it as well as she don't like the new start menu. She will be surprised when she gets home from work later and I won't be here as I'll be at work.
 

beers

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Has anyone had weird lag issues in W10? In the last month or so I had >1 second lag spikes every 10 seconds. Did some basic troubleshooting which was unfruitful and reformatted which resolved it for a couple weeks but then I was exhibiting the same issues last night (with no known changes to my environment)

Same behavior between different NICs and different APs, wasn't exhibited on non-W10 nodes. I dumped it for 8.1 this morning and it seemed resolved again.

Just seemed kind of odd.
 

voyagerfan99

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lol Windows 10 has been out for almost 6 months and it still has issues. Glad I'm still on 8.1 and don't plan on touching 10 for quite some time.
 

Cromewell

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Has anyone had weird lag issues in W10? In the last month or so I had >1 second lag spikes every 10 seconds.
In what context? I have some lag spikes in certain games and some video artifacting that I never used to have but otherwise it's been fairly solid.
 

beers

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In what context? I have some lag spikes in certain games and some video artifacting that I never used to have but otherwise it's been fairly solid.

All traffic seemed to hang up for a second or so. I whipped out a ping to 8.8.8.8 or even the LAN gateway and you could set your watch to it, every 10 seconds it'd spike up over 1000ms.

Trying to play CSGO or iRacing was very frustrating as there'd either be rubberbanding or the cars would warp everywhere and look like they're spastically wrecking into everything for a second or so :p
 

Cromewell

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All traffic seemed to hang up for a second or so. I whipped out a ping to 8.8.8.8 or even the LAN gateway and you could set your watch to it, every 10 seconds it'd spike up over 1000ms.

Trying to play CSGO or iRacing was very frustrating as there'd either be rubberbanding or the cars would warp everywhere and look like they're spastically wrecking into everything for a second or so :p
Weird. Definitely don't have that doing on. Just crappy graphics drivers for my old HD7950.
Huh? In my experience, Windows 10 is much smoother, just as stable, and overall a much better UI than Windows 8.1.
Mine as well.
 

johnb35

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Yeah, I'm still having blue screen issues on my upgrade and I believe its due to the AMD driver software. Just had another blue screen this morning. Will most likely be doing a fresh install soon. And it seems the upgrade to 10 has solved most of my Pale Moon browser issues with videos.
 

Punk

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Yeah, I'm still having blue screen issues on my upgrade and I believe its due to the AMD driver software. Just had another blue screen this morning. Will most likely be doing a fresh install soon. And it seems the upgrade to 10 has solved most of my Pale Moon browser issues with videos.
The AMD driver problem is what's keeping from upgrading my "new" desktop. I'd hate to have BSOD because of this and not be able to play some of the games I have just because I upgraded... But I do like the new UI.
 

spirit

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Huh? In my experience, Windows 10 is much smoother, just as stable, and overall a much better UI than Windows 8.1.
I like them both but for different reasons. Before the November update (Build 10586, Version 1511) I preferred 8.1 because of its superior stability, but since the November update Windows 10 has been rock solid too on all of the PCs I've had it on. On a traditional desktop computer or laptop I prefer 10 but on a tablet or touch device like my Surface Pro I prefer 8.1. The touch experience is better in 8.1 if you ask me and many of the 8.1 Metro apps that worked really well on a touchscreen device, like my Surface, are easier and more intuitive to use than their Windows 10 counterparts on a touchscreen. The OneNote app in 8.1 is superior to the OneNote app in 10 for example simply because the one in 8.1 is full screen which is what you want on a tablet and it's easier to create new pages, change pen colour etc (just look online).

The AMD driver problem is what's keeping from upgrading my "new" desktop. I'd hate to have BSOD because of this and not be able to play some of the games I have just because I upgraded... But I do like the new UI.
No problems here on the NVIDIA side for me and I've built a few systems with NVIDIA cards since 10 came out. There were early issues but they seem to be fixed now.

One problem with 10 is that the mandatory update thing can conflict with GPU drivers. Take a look at step 3 in my guide and see if applying that patch helps. Then uninstall and reinstall the latest drivers for your card: http://www.computerforum.com/thread...all-graphics-drivers-amd-nvidia-intel.230370/
 
Just upgraded to 10 on my GF's pc and no issues on that one thankfully. Installed classic shell on it as well as she don't like the new start menu. She will be surprised when she gets home from work later and I won't be here as I'll be at work.

If when she gets back from work and chucks you out and locks the door with all your belongings outside in a heap you'll know why!
 

johnb35

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If when she gets back from work and chucks you out and locks the door with all your belongings outside in a heap you'll know why!

She told me to do it whenever I could do it, probably wasn't expecting it so soon though.
The AMD driver problem is what's keeping from upgrading my "new" desktop. I'd hate to have BSOD because of this and not be able to play some of the games I have just because I upgraded

I've had 3 BSOD's in a matter of 5 minutes today so I guess I'll be doing a fresh install to see if that stops the problem. Not really what I wanted to do today but oh well.
 
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