Making an upgrade, Ryzen 1700x, i7 7700K, or Coffee Lake

Darren

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I wouldn't mess with a water cooler unless you're willing to spend enough for a 240MM radiator setup. Otherwise just get a quality air cooler like the Noctua. I went from a Corsair H100 and the air cooler I replaced it with cools better at almost half the cost.
 

memory

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Would there be any issues with using my current noctua nh-d14? I know I would have to get a mounting bracket for it, which noctua does offer it free.
 

Intel_man

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Would there be any issues with using my current noctua nh-d14? I know I would have to get a mounting bracket for it, which noctua does offer it free.
You'd probably have to get low profile ram. The Noctua D14 is a pretty big cooler.
 

memory

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How do I tell what the height of the ram is? I did not see anything about that in the specs on newegg.

What coolers would not have any clearance issues with the ram or vice versa?

This might sound dumb but is there a site that allows you to build a pc virtually with the parts you pick out? Not sure how well it would work but could use it to check for fitment or any other issues before you actually buy the parts.
 
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Laquer Head

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How do I tell what the height of the ram is? I did not see anything about that in the specs on newegg.

What coolers would not have any clearance issues with the ram or vice versa?

This might sound dumb but is there a site that allows you to build a pc virtually with the parts you pick out? Not sure how well it would work but could use it to check for fitment or any other issues before you actually buy the parts.

Here is a shot of my rig and the clearance from end of heat spreader on my G-Skill Ripjaws V ram to the front fan on my dark rock pro 3.

Many enthusiast brand ram with high spreaders will simply not fit with big tower air coolers, unless they are low-profile or you've done research on forums..etc and find out what works from other peoples trial/error.... -these were the best sticks I could get, with good heat spreader, that weren't too tall for this cooler.

ramcleared.jpg
 

memory

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How much of a size difference is there between the noctua d14 and be quiet dark rock pro 3? I am looking at getting g skill ripjaws ram and it looks to have a similar heatspreader
 

Intel_man

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I wouldn't jump from a d14 to the be Quiet. They both perform quite similarly unless you want to ditch the poo colour fans from the noctua.
 

Laquer Head

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How much of a size difference is there between the noctua d14 and be quiet dark rock pro 3? I am looking at getting g skill ripjaws ram and it looks to have a similar heatspreader
Similar in size.

Depends on the series of ripjaws..some have taller spreaders that I don't believe will fit. Mine, the V's 100% do as you can see in the pic! I'm fairly sure the dark rock pro3 has more of a clearance issue than the noctua also.

I wouldn't jump from a d14 to the be Quiet. They both perform quite similarly unless you want to ditch the poo colour fans from the noctua.

I agree, not really worth spending the money for no real difference..essentially..

but the dark rock pro 3 looks badass~!!!
 

memory

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Would there be any difference between my current dh-14 and the ones they sell now?

I don't plan on buying a be quiet over my noctua, was just trying to figure out if I would have clearance issues. But it sounds like I would be fine.
 

memory

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Which would be the better PSU out of these two selected?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438054

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118

Just noticed the price of the AMD 1700x is 60 bucks higher than the 7700k now. They was near identical prices when I first started putting this build together. May consider the 1700 since it is 90 bucks cheaper than the 1700x. Besides the clock speed, what is the main difference between the 1700 and 1700x? Could I easily overclock the 1700 to 3.4ghz or higher? From the researching I have done, the ryzen 7 series cpu's don't seem to overclock as well as the 7th generation intels. If I tried to reach an overclock of 4.0ghz on the AMD 1700, how hard would that be? Am I going to be pushing the chip to the limit? And could I easily do something wrong and mess it up trying to go that high?

Now I haven't done any overclocking for a few years so I will have to familiarize myself and read some guides on overclocking. I know in the past overclocking was done through the bios. Are there ways of overclocking through windows or is the bios still the best way to overclock?
 
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lucasbytegenius

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Just noticed the price of the AMD 1700x is 60 bucks higher than the 7700k now. They was near identical prices when I first started putting this build together. May consider the 1700 since it is 90 bucks cheaper than the 1700x. Besides the clock speed, what is the main difference between the 1700 and 1700x? Could I easily overclock the 1700 to 3.4ghz or higher? From the researching I have done, the ryzen 7 series cpu's don't seem to overclock as well as the 7th generation intels. If I tried to reach an overclock of 4.0ghz on the AMD 1700, how hard would that be? Am I going to be pushing the chip to the limit? And could I easily do something wrong and mess it up trying to go that high?

Now I haven't done any overclocking for a few years so I will have to familiarize myself and read some guides on overclocking. I know in the past overclocking was done through the bios. Are there ways of overclocking through windows or is the bios still the best way to overclock?
4 Ghz is pushing the limit with the R7 series. You'll easily be able to hit 3.4 Ghz on all cores on the 1700, but pushing it to 4 Ghz may prove challenging. @Darren got his to 3.9 Ghz I believe.
I pushed my 1700X to 4 Ghz before having to resort to unholy amounts of voltage (1.4v+) to get it over 4 Ghz.
There are ways to do it in Windows (depending on your motherboard manufacturer) but by far the best way is still to use the BIOS, and slowly raise the clock multiplier, testing for stability, and then adjusting voltage as needed.
 
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