(Wireless) LAN over 80 meters....

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vanderpee

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Hi,

Is there anyone that can give me some advice on how to hook up my laptop to my adsl router over a distance of 80 meters.

What will be the best way to go, wireless or 80 meter of cable? I live on a farm so no interference with buildings, but currently my wifi in laptop has got a very limited range.

I think i would prefer a cable but have heard that it is impossible to have a wired network over more than about 25 meters, without losing quality or even no signal at all?? Is this true?

And what about wireless?

Thanks for your help anyone

cheers mark
 
Geoff

Geoff

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You can go both routes. If you want to go wired, you can add in a repeater to boost the signal, as well as buying shielded cable, which allows for longer distances.

With wireless, 802.11g should work because ~240ft isn't that far. If you have 802.11g and it doesn't work, you may want to look into draft-n products. Or you could just set up a wireless repeater in between your laptop and AP.
 
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vanderpee

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thanks for ur response omega!

what do you excactly mean with "draft-n products"? And can i get (wireless) repeaters just in the computer store? any idea about prices?

For the rest my 802.11g wireless has got a very low range at the moment. i might have to update my wifi drivers first...
 
Geoff

Geoff

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vanderpee said:
thanks for ur response omega!

what do you excactly mean with "draft-n products"? And can i get (wireless) repeaters just in the computer store? any idea about prices?

For the rest my 802.11g wireless has got a very low range at the moment. i might have to update my wifi drivers first...
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Draft-N is a pre-released version of the new wireless standard that will be out in the near future (802.11n). However if you did buy draft-N, you would need new wireless cards for the laptop and/or desktops.

Most access points you buy at stores can be used just as a repeater, meaning it basically takes the signal and amplifies it back to the original power. If you do that, I would recommend buying one that is the same brand that you have now, to avoid any conflicts.
 
jjsevdt

jjsevdt

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The only thing about the pre-N products is that they are "Pre" meaning the n standard hasn't been certified by the IEEE 802.11 Working group. Please read exert from Wikipedia here:

On May 2, 2006, the IEEE 802.11 Working Group voted not to forward Draft 1.0 of the proposed 802.11n standard for a sponsor ballot. Only 46.6% voted to accept the proposal. To proceed to the next step in the IEEE process, a majority vote of 75% is required. This letter ballot also generated approximately 12000 comments -- much more than anticipated.
According to the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Project Timelines,[2] the 802.11n standard is not due for final approval until July 2007.

If it's not good enough to be an approved standard by the pros, I can do without.
 
Geoff

Geoff

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jjsevdt said:
The only thing about the pre-N products is that they are "Pre" meaning the n standard hasn't been certified by the IEEE 802.11 Working group. Please read exert from Wikipedia here:


If it's not good enough to be an approved standard by the pros, I can do without.
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It's not officially approved yet, the IEEE are debating one what standard there going to choose out of the many they are presented with.

Pre-n and Draft-n products do offer much greater range and much greater speeds, but because there draft, they may not be compatible with other companies draft products, or the final 802.11n standard.
 
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vanderpee

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Well guys, dont think draft-n products is what i want. think i'd rather get a wired connection. Would cat5 or cat5e cabel the way to go?

or would it be possible to use 4 spare wires of my excisting phonecable? (since my phone line only uses 2 of 8 wires). what about possible interference?

thanx
 
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vanderpee

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[-0MEGA-];489516 said:
Most access points you buy at stores can be used just as a repeater, meaning it basically takes the signal and amplifies it back to the original power. If you do that, I would recommend buying one that is the same brand that you have now, to avoid any conflicts.
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When you say "access point" do you just mean any (wireless)router or (wireless)router/modem?
 
Geoff

Geoff

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A wireless router acts like both a router and an access point. If you went to best buy, they usually sell wireless routers and wireless access points, the difference being that the AP's doing have the wired ports (except for the WAN).
 
tlarkin

tlarkin

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Which router do you own? I currently have a 802.11G router broadcasting at about 300 feet with no repeater.
 
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silver 95

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i would suggest the wired connection if it's gonna be in the office permanent. that way, your less likely to have connectivity issues. and if you do go with the wireless solution, you could always get highre gain antenna's for the router/ap/cards. you can get them off ebay or basically anywhere. just make sure you get the proper connector. there usually reverse tnc (http://www.antennekabel.nl/foto-connectors/20-tnc-m-cr.jpg) or sma (http://www.antennekabel.nl/foto-connectors/20-60422201.jpg)
 
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Lectrician

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I would wire it - you can go pretty much to 100m with cat5/6.

You could then hang a wireless access point on the end of the cable if you wish - this would give you to areas of wireless connectivity to use.

If the cable run is outside, you would be best to use a duct-grade cable in some conduit/duct, or get some direct burial/armoured stuff.
 
Geoff

Geoff

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Just as a bit of info, I was searching the web and I did find that 802.11b/g is designed for a distance of ~100 Meters. And 802.11pre-n is designed for a distance of ~250 Meters, so you may want to look into the pre-n stuff.
 
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