ATI vs. Nvidia

ATI or Nvidia?

  • ATI

    Votes: 13 65.0%
  • Nvidia

    Votes: 7 35.0%

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
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Viper_86

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Ok guys, i know theres a lot of ppl with different opinions about video cards...the 2 top companies out there is ATI and Nvidia...i personally prefer ATI over Nvidia anyday...best card on the market right now is the x800 pro which is a totally kick ass card...from wut i hear...Nvidia is still a very good company..but i would rather have an ATI Radeon...which i have the 9800 pro as of now.
 

Praetor

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A "poll" indictaes little since many people tend to go for the fanboy approach without explainations :D Seriously though you cant compare the two companies that much ... not at that broad of a category at least. Overall, takign into the account the entire history of both companies and the Marketing, Financial and Technological achievements, they are on par perhaps with nVidia taking a slight lead here and ATI taking a lead there. Back in the day, it was ATI that was the premier card, they lost that spot to nVidia and now have worked themselves back to a viable position on roughly even footing.

If you consider the bungles of each company we have: GF4MX, ATI Drivers, GFX5200, 64bit-ATi cards in a 256-bit era, GFX5800, X600/X300 .... both companies have had their fair share of bungles.
 

Viper_86

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Praetor said:
A "poll" indictaes little since many people tend to go for the fanboy approach without explainations
well actually my reason for liking ATI over nVidia is because they outperform nVidia at this point with their grafix...so its true that nVidia does have a little faster cards...well until the x800 came out...its not enuf to really tell a difference...therefor i choose on grafix and overall performance...wich ATI has the battle won. and i havent much reason from u...im guessin we have a nVida fanboy here...and polls indicate wut company they prefer and have had better experiences with...tho its true that some ppl do take the fanboy approach...there r a lot of ppl who base their decision and experience.
 

Praetor

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well actually my reason for liking ATI over nVidia is because they outperform nVidia at this point with their grafix...so its true that nVidia does have a little faster cards
Yes but nVidia tends to outperform ATI as far as chipsets and investments go as well as drivers (esp. Linux drivers). Speed only means so much if you can get the thing to work heehee

there r a lot of ppl who base their decision and experience.
Yep ... and the community is better of with more of them ... cuz then the people who dont know the ins and outs can actually get a coherent explaination as to why people suggest "Go ATI" or "Go nVidia" rather than just abrupt comments cheering on one company and putting down the other. It seems that the word "because" is seriously lacking when people give suggestions heehee
 

Nephilim

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My loyalties lie with performance and how much of it I can get within a certain price range. Who makes it is secondary :)
 

4W4K3

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nvidia...never had a problem with my nvidia cards. first ATi card i bought overheated, would not overclock, and had crap performance. the lower end nvidia did better. but thats just my experience...the 9800PRO is a great card. but i'd take a 5900XT over it...i plan ot anyways.
 

Blazer

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id rather have ATI myself...im getting the X800 pro sooner or later :), can't wait! I have been really pleased by the performance and power that ATI has to offer. Ive also had 1 or 2 nVidia cards, not too bad but i prefer ATI over nVidia.
 

Nephilim

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I'd have to say that with this newest generation I like the X800 the best. I don't get real excited about a two-slot card and that needs two power connectors. I guess it's an efficiency thing for me since the X800 give comparable performance in a much sleeker package.
 

4W4K3

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Nephilim said:
I'd have to say that with this newest generation I like the X800 the best. I don't get real excited about a two-slot card and that needs two power connectors. I guess it's an efficiency thing for me since the X800 give comparable performance in a much sleeker package.

i do like the look of the X800 series. even though the 6800 does better, i think both cards are good buyz.
 

Nephilim

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I just checked out the link to Tom's and both cards are within a few FPS of each other. The largest gap between the 6800 Ultra and the X800XT PE was 8 FPS. Not enough to even notice in the real world.
 

Zeon

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I just got my x800 XT PE from compusa and I love it. Either card you get will play games beautifully and quickly. As for the 6800 having 3.0 shader support first you need games that are going to fully take advantage (besides Farcry) of the feature before it matters. Unless Doom 3 uses 3.0. But with the AF and AA turned on and up (on the Ati cards) the games will still look beautiful. UT 2004 looks amazing and the renderings on the reflections and water are stunning. No regrets here.

As for bench marks…they don’t mean anything. Buy what you want/afford.

Another thing is that PCI-Express will be coming up within the year and ATI’s card x880 XT will then supposedly be the fastest video card then. So my high end card will only be high end for about 6 months. But I’m not switching to PCI-Express until Amd makes the switch. The next processor I want to get is a FX-55 when they release it. When they do, I don’t they’ll be building new Motherboards for it with PCI-Express.
 

SpetsnaZ

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Every website gets paid to advertise products, but those are tests so I doubt they get paid..........it would be pretty bad marketting if they would base their test results on who pays the more money. That would suck....but TOMS HARDWARE doesn't affect the sales market to the point that NVIDIA or ATI would want to pay them to say their cards render more FPS than their rivals!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Praetor

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Every website gets paid to advertise products, but those are tests so I doubt they get paid
Very true and i've noticed over the years THG does have bias although in general they tend to contain it as much as possible... bias still (kinda dissapointing for something of that calibre though)

That would suck....but TOMS HARDWARE doesn't affect the sales market to the point that NVIDIA or ATI would want to pay them to say their cards render more FPS than their rivals!!!!!!!!!!!
Argueable... we've both seen people running around quoting this quoting that off THG without (a) using common sense (b) looking at the big picture and (c) taking those benchmarks with a grain of salt.... all those people running around giving "advice" to people not-in-the-know ... that affects sales :(
 

SpetsnaZ

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Very true, but those benchmarks are a tool and not decision makers. Those who make suggestions that are "not-in-the-know " basicaly affect sales like for example FUTUR SHOP (caugh caugh f$%ck*&g as$*&o%$les) but this makes FORUMS like these so much more powerful. Companies should take advantage of forums likes these to get a USER'S FEEDBACK...now that is powerful marketting !!!! Let me say that a well knowledged user can be a very good and influencial sales person...not working for any company.

Personnaly, I like forums like these for the simple fact that I get more info on the product I want to buy that when I go into a certain store for the simple fact that no one here is making a profit on "suggestions" and all the bla bla. That's how I bought my Mountain Bike, after getting some good technical advice from MB Forums.

In conclusion, I would rather come to one of these forums, talk about what I want, what I need and ask for advice. I get good advice from people who know what they talk about (Most of them Hehe), I get knowledge on PCs, technical info, links to good websites (benchmarks) so that when I decide to make a decision based on everything I have learned, I am shure of getting what is best for me.

If you sum it all up, forums, benchmarks and websites....you get alot more info than a sales rep at FUTUR SHOP !!!
 

4W4K3

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if you search through tom's hardware thay are extremisized intel/nvidia site.they NEVER give gigabyte, asus, msi bad reviews. but if you look at an abit review they always seem not to mention the quality and high overclockability. one idiot even said that a64 was nothing compared to the intel p4 northwood...what kind of idiot is he?...and he continues to say that a64 has no real performance gains...how in the world did he get to write articles for tom??? you'd have to find that one the site...im too lazy lol. they do write some top notch reviews though, like the 5ghz p4 a few months ago. that one seemed to be on level.
 
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