1 vs. 2

[m0nk3ys1ms]

Build 1:
CPU: AMD Athlon 3000+ Socket 939
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537
Mobo: EPoX EP-9NPA71 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123264
Memory: G.SKILL 512MB 184-PIN DDR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231026
(2 of these)

Build 2:
CPU: Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 533Mhz FSB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819116001
Mobo: ECS 945PL-A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813135007
Memory: G.SKILL Extreme 1GB 240-Pin DDR2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820231043

 

[bigsaucybob]

What are you using it for?


Either way I would get Build 2, Dual core and more RAM.

 

[m0nk3ys1ms]

gaming, internet, im

i also plan on doing a bit of oc'ing

 

[Rip_Uk]

What are you using it for?


Either way I would get Build 2, Dual core and more RAM.

isnt it the same amount of ram? 2 x 512mb sticks or 1gb.

 

[bigsaucybob]

isnt it the same amount of ram? 2 x 512mb sticks or 1gb.

I dont think it said that when I saw the thread.

 

[computermaineack]

it's iffy. although amd would probably be better for your uses, a pentium d still trumps an athlon 3000. i say choice 2.

 

[m0nk3ys1ms]

im just get confused. people say that if your gonna game, get an AMD. then people say that you cant beat a Pentium D for the price, and its only 20 bucks more.

 

[m0nk3ys1ms]

also, can everybody explain why they voted the way they voted?

 

[Geoff]

I would go with build one, simply because it will perform better in most games. It may even perform better in multi-threaded games, simply because multi-threaded games dont take full advantage of a dual-core processor.

 

[Rambo]

Monkeysims, read this:

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz_cores_uk/

It'll help you decide

 

[m0nk3ys1ms]

thanks rambo. ive read alot of people get 3.4ghz stable on stock cooling by bumping the fsb up to 200

200*17

 

[Rambo]

Here's a thread about the Pentium D 805 vs the AMD X2 3800:

http://forums.ngemu.com/hardware-discussion/72271-amd-x2-3800-vs-pentium-d-805-a.html

Obviously the AMD X2 3800 is much better, but when you overclock the Pentium D 805 to, perhaps 3.4-6 Ghz, you're going to be getting better performance than the AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (I think)...

 

[Skizzor]

I would get build 1 but upgrade the 3000 to a 3500. The 3500 is only 139.99$ and the 3000 is 110$.

 

[m0nk3ys1ms]

I would get build 1 but upgrade the 3000 to a 3500. The 3500 is only 139.99$ and the 3000 is 110$.

or i could save 30 bucks and overclock 400mhz

 

[Skizzor]

True but why not overclock the 3500?

 

[m0nk3ys1ms]

cause im cheap

 

[m0nk3ys1ms]

im on kind of a strict budget. i just want the best cpu, ram, and mobo for 250 bucks.

 

[m0nk3ys1ms]

8 to 6, very close

 

[m0nk3ys1ms]

bump, and were a 10 to 7, build 1 seems to be pulling away a bit

 

[Rambo]

Well, I don't understand why people are choosing the AMD Athlon 64 over the Pentium D 805 Dual Core....

If you read that link I posted earlier on, it says that the Intel (when Overclocked) is close to (or beats, not sure...) an Athlon FX-60!

The bottom line is that the Athlon FX-60 and the Pentium Extreme Edition 965 have both met their match - there's simply no escaping this conclusion! This is bound to cause lamentation among the elite circle of users who've invested big bucks in their high-end systems, if not outright wailing and rending of garments. The basic stats for this insignificant-seeming budget processor read as follows: Pentium D 805 clocked at 2.66 GHz, equipped with two processor cores both with 64 bit support........... We were quite amazed as the first performance figures emerged from our test labs: stable operation was possible at 4.1 GHz, and without even the need for substantial boosts to cooling!

If this thing, when overclocked to 4.1 Ghz can perform like an Athlon FX-60, I'm sure that if you were to clock it to about 3.5 Ghz, you're going to be getting much better performance all round than the AMD Athon 64 3000+.

Oh, and btw, I have the AMD Athlon 64 3500+, and I'd recommend just buying the 3000+ if you go for the AMD build... It wont take much to overclock it to 3500+ speeds.