$1000USD PC Build help!

ANNR

Active Member
I need some help on picking parts for my new pc.

limited to $1000USD No OS needed

This is what i have so far.

CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz $235
RAM - CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 $180 with 50 MIR
Mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131142 $128.99
GPU - GIGABYTE GV-NX76G256D-RH GeForce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 $96.99
Hardrive - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3400620AS 400GB $120
Case - X-Purity $59.99
PSU - Antec NeoHE 500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply$99.99

Card Reader - Rosewill RCR-FD200 All-in-one USB 2.0 Black 3.5 $20.99

About $942USD so far with out the Video card. $892 with the MIR

Please let me know your thoughts on any of the parts.

I think the Mobo has a raid controller. How do i set up the raid with the 2 400GB hard that i will be getting?

Thanks allot

EDIT: I also need cable sleeving supplies. Is there any guild on this forum on how to sleeve the cables? Please include the price in the build.

Also please post links to newegg.com

The fan that came with the CPU, Is it loud? I would like to have walter cooling if the cpu fan is loud. Please tell me some good water cooling materials. Also include the price in the final build

Thanks again
 
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PabloTeK

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The stock cooling for the Core 2 Duo's isn't loud but it doesn't perform as well as a Thermalrght 120 Ultra Extreme (Something like that) with a 120mm fan.:)
 

Kilauea

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I am not so sure about the Rosewill PSU, Here http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=131195 it appears in the "bad" section. I'd suggest getting a Corsair 520HX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001 or an Antec NeoHe 500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103940

Then, do you plan on overclocking, because if you don't, I'd suggest you go with some DDR2-667 as it will perform equally fast, not too sure about what you plan to do with your computer, but this could save u some money, 2gb Corsair Value Select DDR2-667 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145098

Then, I'd reconsider the GPU unless you are not gaming at all, a cheap card such as a 7600GT will cost about 100$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130062 or if you prefer a DX10 card, a 8600GT 170 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130087

And finally, maybe I'd get some more recent 7200.10 HD, that would cost u 40$ (2x20$) more, but it would be faster http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148138
 

ANNR

Active Member
I am not so sure about the Rosewill PSU, Here http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=131195 it appears in the "bad" section. I'd suggest getting a Corsair 520HX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001 or an Antec NeoHe 500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103940

Then, do you plan on overclocking, because if you don't, I'd suggest you go with some DDR2-667 as it will perform equally fast, not too sure about what you plan to do with your computer, but this could save u some money, 2gb Corsair Value Select DDR2-667 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145098

Then, I'd reconsider the GPU unless you are not gaming at all, a cheap card such as a 7600GT will cost about 100$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130062 or if you prefer a DX10 card, a 8600GT 170 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130087

And finally, maybe I'd get some more recent 7200.10 HD, that would cost u 40$ (2x20$) more, but it would be faster http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148138

I have mad some changes.

I don't need any outstanding video cards, i will not be playing any games on this pc. Maybe watch tv on it. So it would be nice to have a card that i can connect cable tv and watch it on my monitor and also be able to record the tv show.

thanks
 

ANNR

Active Member
Look at an XClio 550 Watt PSU, it's 80$ but is alot better than what you currently have listed.

thanks for the suggestion Froboy7391.

I was thinking of Antec NeoHE 500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply too before Kilauea mentioned it. So I will go with the Antec instead.
 

ezefosure

New Member
instead of getting a gpu that connects to tv and records, get a dedicated TV tuner. You can pick up a rilly good haugpauge for 100. Then spend your last hundred on like a 7600 or 8500 or something, since you wont be gaming taht much. Great cards, but not high end.
 

ANNR

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820231098
also in case you DO plan on overclocking at all. and i thought the S3 boards ONLY supported ddr2 800? I'm a noob, but thats what the site says..

either way, the ram here is ddr2 and only like 20 dollars more. i'm buying a $1000 budget cpu too (actually like 1100) and that's what i'm using.

I think the lower speed ddr2 should work fine on the mobo. Not sure.

does anybody know the different between the two? is there a big difference?
 

PC eye

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The advice on the Rosewhatever cheapo make should be listened to there. The Corsair HX520 is one good mosel in that wattage range to consider on the other hand there. For a look at the "ever changing" :rolleyes: lists of "good" and "bad" makes and model for supplies go through these here.

Good:
Antec(except Smart Power models) - Astec - AOpen - Channel Well - Coolermaster - Enermax(except Liberty models)
- Enlight - Fortron Source (Sparkle) - HEC - OCZ Technology - PC Power & Cooling - PowerMan
- Seasonic - SilverStone - Sunbeam - Tagan(older models) - TTGI/SuperFlower - Vantec - Zippy / Emacs - Verax - XCLIO - Zalman
- Corsair

Bad:
Allied - Antec Smart Power models seem to lack(recommend True Power or NeoHE) - Aspire - CoolMax - DEER - Enermax Liberty models - ePower - EYE-T
- KingStar - L&C - Linkworld - Logisys - PowerMagic - PowerUp - Powmax - Q-Tec - Raidmax - Skyhawk - Star
- Turbolink - Ultra - ThermalTake(complaints heard some good some ???) - Rosewill - SilenX ??? ToPower(newer models)

You can see from this that Rose"whatever crap" didn't come close to the "good" list while Corsair seems to be smiling! :D hhmmm...? No sticky yet seen in the Computer Cases, Power Supplies, and Cooling section however. Even that would probably go through some of what these lists have seen there.

On many boards the memory may be one step up from DDR2 800 when going to look at the lastest models. The Intel chipset shouldn't be a problem on the board while NVidia is still favored here. The last thing to consider besides that and a good supply is the G.Skill memory? Gigabyte themselves promotes Kingston while Corsair(even value memory), Crucial, certainly OCZ(premium with premium price usually), and the newer Patriot would be on the list with Mushkin.
 

ANNR

Active Member
The advice on the Rosewhatever cheapo make should be listened to there. The Corsair HX520 is one good mosel in that wattage range to consider on the other hand there. For a look at the "ever changing" :rolleyes: lists of "good" and "bad" makes and model for supplies go through these here.

Good:
Antec(except Smart Power models) - Astec - AOpen - Channel Well - Coolermaster - Enermax(except Liberty models)
- Enlight - Fortron Source (Sparkle) - HEC - OCZ Technology - PC Power & Cooling - PowerMan
- Seasonic - SilverStone - Sunbeam - Tagan(older models) - TTGI/SuperFlower - Vantec - Zippy / Emacs - Verax - XCLIO - Zalman
- Corsair

Bad:
Allied - Antec Smart Power models seem to lack(recommend True Power or NeoHE) - Aspire - CoolMax - DEER - Enermax Liberty models - ePower - EYE-T
- KingStar - L&C - Linkworld - Logisys - PowerMagic - PowerUp - Powmax - Q-Tec - Raidmax - Skyhawk - Star
- Turbolink - Ultra - ThermalTake(complaints heard some good some ???) - Rosewill - SilenX ??? ToPower(newer models)

You can see from this that Rose"whatever crap" didn't come close to the "good" list while Corsair seems to be smiling! :D hhmmm...? No sticky yet seen in the Computer Cases, Power Supplies, and Cooling section however. Even that would probably go through some of what these lists have seen there.

On many boards the memory may be one step up from DDR2 800 when going to look at the lastest models. The Intel chipset shouldn't be a problem on the board while NVidia is still favored here. The last thing to consider besides that and a good supply is the G.Skill memory? Gigabyte themselves promotes Kingston while Corsair(even value memory), Crucial, certainly OCZ(premium with premium price usually), and the newer Patriot would be on the list with Mushkin.


Personally i have experience with OCZ memory and think they are very good. The others i have not used.

Here is couple that i found. Which one is better do you think?

Patriot eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800

OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

OCZ S.O.E 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800



I was also looking at Kingston HyperX and CORSAIR XMS2. It seems these memories are recommended for gaming but i will not be doing any gaming on this pc.

PC-Eye can you please also give some suggestion on the video card that i should get? I looked through the 101 but I can't make up my mine on which one to get.

All i need is a decent video card. nothing fancy since i will not be gaming.

Thanks alot
 

PC eye

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The 101 sticky was a good one when first posted. But while now far outdated for the price drops seen on most of those hardwares it still offers a reference for the types of cases you can build. You simply wait six months in this field and everything becomes outdated fast.

I haven't heard any complaints on Patriot memory here while having preferences for a few brands. OCZ is the high end brand with the high end price seen in many cases. If you not planning to OC you can easily go for one brand's value ram and still see good results. Video does like memory but likes cpu time more. Are you planning anything ilke video capturing or any other type of demanding apps since you are leaving gaming out?

There are a good number of budget cards available with some better then others. For practical reasons you first have to decide on which make of VPU chip you will want on it. NVidia or ATI? Price range gives a limit on the range of models to choose if you have a certain amount to spend. You can find a ton of cheap card for under $50 but may spend more for a good low end model depending on make as well as the model chip seen on it. I would move above the current X1300 Pro Radeon used here for ATI as well as above the 7300 NVidia has out. PCI-E or AGP? For the new build PCI-E would be the best move regardless of gaming or non gaming.
 

ezefosure

New Member
The last thing to consider besides that and a good supply is the G.Skill memory? Gigabyte themselves promotes Kingston while Corsair(even value memory), Crucial, certainly OCZ(premium with premium price usually), and the newer Patriot would be on the list with Mushkin.


I dont understand this part of ur post...
 

ANNR

Active Member
The 101 sticky was a good one when first posted. But while now far outdated for the price drops seen on most of those hardwares it still offers a reference for the types of cases you can build. You simply wait six months in this field and everything becomes outdated fast.

I haven't heard any complaints on Patriot memory here while having preferences for a few brands. OCZ is the high end brand with the high end price seen in many cases. If you not planning to OC you can easily go for one brand's value ram and still see good results. Video does like memory but likes cpu time more. Are you planning anything ilke video capturing or any other type of demanding apps since you are leaving gaming out?

There are a good number of budget cards available with some better then others. For practical reasons you first have to decide on which make of VPU chip you will want on it. NVidia or ATI? Price range gives a limit on the range of models to choose if you have a certain amount to spend. You can find a ton of cheap card for under $50 but may spend more for a good low end model depending on make as well as the model chip seen on it. I would move above the current X1300 Pro Radeon used here for ATI as well as above the 7300 NVidia has out. PCI-E or AGP? For the new build PCI-E would be the best move regardless of gaming or non gaming.

No the pc will just be used for everyday pc use, no video editing or anything as cpu intensive as this. It is going to be used for online business. I don't mean server host for a business website.

I will go with the PCI-E, and i think i will go with a card thats around 50USD. like 60 or 70 is ok too. Please help me pick the best one in this price range.

Thanks

EDIT: what does this means?
Notice: Only DDR2-800 memory supporting JEDEC approved 1.8V operation with timings of 5-5-5 or 6-6-6 is supported on Intel Desktop Boards based on Intel 965 Express Chipsets.

PC-EYE when you have time can you please take a look at my mobo and see if all my other hardwares is compatible?

Thanks
 
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PC eye

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Besides going for a good make and model supply you will want a good brand of memory that sees less problems then others. For a gaming build you will want a performance type while a value will still work unless OCing is planned. Then spending on memory that supports this has to be considered. GSkill like Geil seems to fall short over other more popular brands.

The board manufacturers themselves will list the brands they recommend for use on their make and model boards. Gigabyte is one the top makes of boards to be looking at. And that brand will recommend Kingston while Asus or another brand will see Corsair as the brand they recommend. This is seen even while other brands will mostly see the same results.
 

PC eye

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EDIT: what does this means?
Notice: Only DDR2-800 memory supporting JEDEC approved 1.8V operation with timings of 5-5-5 or 6-6-6 is supported on Intel Desktop Boards based on Intel 965 Express Chipsets.

PC-EYE when you have time can you please take a look at my mobo and see if all my other hardwares is compatible?

Thanks

Apparently we timed our posts just right? Good Work! :p

The Intel chipset is a little more "fussy"? on timings where the "Timing document.write(neg_specification_newline('4-4-4-12'));4-4-4-12" seen in the specifications suggests the timings will be slightly faster then Intel not Gigabyte insists for their chipset there. This is another reason I prefer NVidia or XPress chipsets that offer support for a larger range of CAS Latencies and the whole nine yards. You may run into compatibility issues unless you either go with a memory with slower timings(value ram not performance?) or cimply choose a different model board.
 

ANNR

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Apparently we timed our posts just right? Good Work! :p

The Intel chipset is a little more "fussy"? on timings where the "Timing document.write(neg_specification_newline('4-4-4-12'));4-4-4-12" seen in the specifications suggests the timings will be slightly faster then Intel not Gigabyte insists for their chipset there. This is another reason I prefer NVidia or XPress chipsets that offer support for a larger range of CAS Latencies and the whole nine yards. You may run into compatibility issues unless you either go with a memory with slower timings(value ram not performance?) or cimply choose a different model board.

PC-eye. can you help me pick a board? As long as it supports core 2duo and quad core cpu it will be fine.

The chances are this computer will not be used much except email checking internet browsing online talking.

If it is possible can you help me pick the board and other hardwares that are compatible with the board? I will not be over clocking this PC at all.

This build is intended for for every day normal use and will not plant on chancing it for another 10 years. Except the fact that I will want to upgrade it to a quad core later on.

thanks
 

PC eye

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It may not be Gigabyte since only one model at newegg was seen with nForce not Intel northbridge and southbridge chipsets. You can look that over at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128044

You will note that this one runs DDR2 667 which won't leave room for upgrade later there. For Asus 8 models with two different nForce chipsets are seen at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...25638+107171927&name=nVidia+nForce+600+series

All of the models seen at the link above will support DDR2 800 which is in your favor there. Besides a look at MSI the price and features are the next things to consider. Hopefully one of these or an MSI model works there. For MSI, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...25638+107171927&name=nVidia+nForce+600+series OEM or retail on the model seen there.
 
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