CoD Black Ops: Quickscoping Controversy

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recently the developers at treyarch opened up the question of "quickscoping" to the call of duty community by means of a polled thread on the black ops forums.

the thread (now closed) can be found here:
http://www.callofduty.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=294897

the statement that a few treyarch developers have made basically accuses quickscoping of being overpowered or cheap and and something that needs to be addressed. as you can see by the poll results, "quickscoping is overpowered" won by a slight margin.

i honestly can't understand how anybody labels using a sniper rifle, in ANY call of duty game, cheap or overpowered. lets face it, in MW2 the sniper rifles were borderline novelty weapons; assault rifles (and sometimes SMG's) are the weapons that you choose if you're looking to consistently (key word there) do well. lets face it: assault rifles are king in call of duty games, period.

my opinion on this: treyarch has got it completely backwards, sniper rifles have always been at a disadvantage against AR's. quickscoping is extremely difficult to pull off consistently against competent opponents running assault rifle/SMG classes. now i understand that the game mechanics have been tweaked slightly and a bit of recoil has been added on to assault rifles, but honestly it would be nice to have a call of duty game where sniping is actually a reasonable choice for competitive play.

anyway check out this video.. i think it basically sums up what i've just said
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Totally disagree. Snipers is close quarters combat should be killed with ease. Quick scoping makes close quarters combat a 1 shot kill for a good quick scoper.
 
I disagree with ChrisUlrich here!

I love snipering but get mowed down everytime I try and do anything, quickscoping gives you the ability to get to a good location to sniper from properly, with out getting killed everytime you run round a corner.
 
Im not a fan of Quickscoping,Would you ever see a sniper in real life....quicksnipe? Its unrealistic and just stupid imo,I hope they nerf it.
 
D@RKSID3 said:
I disagree with Chris Ulrich here!

I love sniping but get mowed down everytime I try and do anything, quickscoping gives you the ability to get to a good location to sniper from properly, with out getting killed every time you run round a corner.
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That goes both ways as soon as you spawn some dickhead sniper takes you out.i think they should limit snipers to 2 snipers in a 12 slot and 4 in a 24 that's 2 per side.
There are too many snipers in one game and if you want to be realistic you would only have one depending on size of map.
 
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russb said:
i think they should limit snipers to 2 snipers in a 12 slot and 4 in a 24 that's 2 per side.
There are too many snipers in one game and if you want to be realistic you would only have one depending on size of map.
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Nah that would be a nightmare,half the time you would never be able to be a sniper if you wanted :cool:
 
I never personally quickscope, if I come across someone at close range and I have a sniper, I usually try to noscope them.

I don't play MW2 any more, but I found that the maps were way too small to snipe anyways (I dont know what they are going to be like on Black Ops) and I can see why people feel the need to quickscope. If you can't sit back and shoot people then you are gonna have to find another way to play.
 
Nevakonaza said:
Nah that would be a nightmare,half the time you would never be able to be a sniper if you wanted :cool:
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Nev wheres the fun in a game where all the players are snipers as i said you spawn and a sniper is sitting opposite you and takes you out.I myself get well fed up with the amount of snipers in a game.If i decide to sit next to a wall with a submachine gun and wait for people to come around the corner and then shoot them i'm called a camper whats the diff.
 
Nevakonaza said:
Im not a fan of Quickscoping,Would you ever see a sniper in real life....quicksnipe? Its unrealistic and just stupid imo,I hope they nerf it.
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So should they take out jumping too?

And flopping (make it so it takes time to prone, you can't just collapse, and be shooting whilst doing so)

And make it so you get shot, and you are perma wounded rather than just wipe the blood off your face then you are ok?

And make it so mellee can't kill, just wound at best. After all, a combat knife isn't going to be getting through armour is it, it will only strike extremities and wound

And should it be that every injury makes you slowly get weaker?

And should there be no respawn?

And should ammo be in magazines, rather than random amounts of bullets?

CoD isn't realistic at all to begin with, it has real world weapons and has real world armies (by name at least), but apart from that, it may as well be UT. With quickscoping, it is something which only happens in public games, and when have you ever seen anyone throw a tantrum over a quickscoper? In the thousands of hours and probably tens of thousands of games I'e played, maybe 2 or 3 times I've seen someone complain, but there wasn't anything they weren't complaining about.

In competitive games, it never, ever happens though. You get snipers, but only on long maps, or ones where there is a lot of cover, and they sneak about, or sit in a tactical position, like a sniper would do.

I've honestly never considered it an issue and don't see why they are making it into a big thing :confused:
 
Eh Cod. Fun to play but frustrating as hell sometimes. I don't see why quick scoping is such an issue, if anything get rid of overpowered noob tubes and commando knifing. If you want something more realistic play bfbc2, or better yet AA.
 
Aastii said:
So should they take out jumping too?

And flopping (make it so it takes time to prone, you can't just collapse, and be shooting whilst doing so)

And make it so you get shot, and you are perma wounded rather than just wipe the blood off your face then you are ok?

And make it so mellee can't kill, just wound at best. After all, a combat knife isn't going to be getting through armour is it, it will only strike extremities and wound

And should it be that every injury makes you slowly get weaker?

And should there be no respawn?

And should ammo be in magazines, rather than random amounts of bullets?

CoD isn't realistic at all to begin with, it has real world weapons and has real world armies (by name at least), but apart from that, it may as well be UT. With quickscoping, it is something which only happens in public games, and when have you ever seen anyone throw a tantrum over a quickscoper? In the thousands of hours and probably tens of thousands of games I'e played, maybe 2 or 3 times I've seen someone complain, but there wasn't anything they weren't complaining about.

In competitive games, it never, ever happens though. You get snipers, but only on long maps, or ones where there is a lot of cover, and they sneak about, or sit in a tactical position, like a sniper would do.

I've honestly never considered it an issue and don't see why they are making it into a big thing :confused:
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exactly. call of duty isn't in the slightest bit realistic anyway. also like you said, people rarely complain about quickscopers: this is because when people do it in pubs, they rarely do consistently well (unless the opposing team is complete shit). you make another good point regarding the competitive scene; sniping in general is rarely even used during competitive games.

it seems to me that treyarchs focus should have been tweaking assault rifles so that a 10 year old kid who's never played the game can't pick one up and go 35-2.

quicksoping is really a novelty; it's fun as hell to do, but typically when doing it you should fully expect not to do very well. which is why i'm really confused as to why treyarch thinks its overpowered.
 
Quickscoping takes no more skill in COD series then it did in Counter Strike. A few hours and anyone can do it with reasonable success. A few weeks and your a master at it.
However COD in general sucks for multiplayer imho. I prefer big maps where a sniper can be a sniper and noobs can't just throw grenade soon they respawn and kill 5 people instantly.
 
I can't believe that of all things, this is what they're addressing as overpowered. How about getting rid of the noob tube? That's something that shouldn't have made it through three generations of CoD.
 
PohTayToez said:
I can't believe that of all things, this is what they're addressing as overpowered. How about getting rid of the noob tube? That's something that shouldn't have made it through three generations of CoD.
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I agree completely. The did make it so that if you wanted to tube you had to buy it. It is not needed to advance yourself in the game.
 
I can see why grenade launchers made it through all the generations. But honestly, nerf it a bit.

Anyways, Any word on the Minimum Requirements for the game?
I hope it is like modern warfare 2, Because it has lower requirements and I have more friends with PC's that can handle that.
I play XBOX, but PC is more fun.
 
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1337dingo said:
quick scoping isnt easy. but yea does get annoying, and isnt realistic so kinda glad they stop it..
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There is not one realistic aspect to the game. I think we all know that quick scoping isn't realistic, I have yet to meet the moron that does. The point being is video games aren't supposed to be cutting edge realism, video games are supposed to be an entertaining escape from reality. Do you think war in real life is fun? Absolutely not! The reason a war "video game" is fun is because of the lack of realism. It keeps the game fun because you can preform actions that you can't in real life. Examples of this are: quick scoping, the no falling damage of commando pro, re spawn, an outrageous amount of courage (I know none of you would be offensively full sprinting around corners on a real battlefield), et cetera. I'm sick and tired of all of these people complaining that this isn't realistic and that isn't realistic, whine nag cry. If you want realism get off your ass and go join the military.
 
You are in a crap mood to day did you not get your oats last night,chill out
as you said it's just a game and everyone is entitled to their opinion right,
 
iAteBillyMays said:
There is not one realistic aspect to the game. I think we all know that quick scoping isn't realistic, I have yet to meet the moron that does. The point being is video games aren't supposed to be cutting edge realism, video games are supposed to be an entertaining escape from reality. Do you think war in real life is fun? Absolutely not! The reason a war "video game" is fun is because of the lack of realism. It keeps the game fun because you can preform actions that you can't in real life. Examples of this are: quick scoping, the no falling damage of commando pro, re spawn, an outrageous amount of courage (I know none of you would be offensively full sprinting around corners on a real battlefield), et cetera. I'm sick and tired of all of these people complaining that this isn't realistic and that isn't realistic, whine nag cry. If you want realism get off your ass and go join the military.
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dude take a chill pill. if u dont have a chill pill take a chill strip, put it on your tounge it desoves. chill! ;)
but yea i tryed to join the army they wont let me because of disabilitys so dont be hatin' when u dont know the full situation, i want it realistic coz i cant join the real army.
 
1337dingo said:
dude take a chill pill. if u dont have a chill pill take a chill strip, put it on your tounge it desoves. chill! ;)
but yea i tryed to join the army they wont let me because of disabilitys so dont be hatin' when u dont know the full situation, i want it realistic coz i cant join the real army.
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I'm very calm, there is a difference between anger and ranting. Sorry to hear the army didn't take you, I'm not being sarcastic I'm being serious, but are you really telling me that you tried joining the military because you got bored of video games? I directed that comment to the masses not the very rare case of individuals that actually have an exception. You can't tell me that everyone that complains about the lack of realism in games has gotten denied by the military and that's why they complain.
 
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