MoH

The snipers are ridiculous too, they have near 0 recoil, they don't have proper scopes (a red dot with slightly enhanced zoom doesn't = a proper crosshair scope) and the first sniper you get is just a semi-auto rifle rather than a sniper, so why give it to you as a sniper? Give it as an unlock for the assault class.

I don't mind the snipers. Cause in MW2 and BC2 when you have the actual scope, that encourages people to camp several bases back, or off in the distance. At least you have to be somewhat near the battle to snipe now. And I thought we got the semi-auto snipers as a bonus for trying the beta out. You can use the M21 and Taliban-equivalent gun with the scope where you have to hold your breath.

And why, DICE, why no prone still, and why no lean. ffs it would have been a tiny amount of coding to implement them, just because you can't really do it on a console doesn't mean you have to go all lazy and not do a single bit of extra programming for the PC version to give us the features that are possible on the platform

I actually like that there's no prone. Then it'd be too much like COD. Which would get annoying. Not that I'm directing this at you personally, but people seem to be complaining that the game is too similar to another one, but then complain when the game doesn't have a feature that the other games have.

I've been playing today and yesterday, got lvl 7 in everything. how am i supposed to get to lvl 8 though? apparently i need 100 000 000 000 points :eek:

That might be for the beta.. so like no one can reach the highest level or something.
 
I don't mind the snipers. Cause in MW2 and BC2 when you have the actual scope, that encourages people to camp several bases back, or off in the distance. At least you have to be somewhat near the battle to snipe now. And I thought we got the semi-auto snipers as a bonus for trying the beta out. You can use the M21 and Taliban-equivalent gun with the scope where you have to hold your breath.



I actually like that there's no prone. Then it'd be too much like COD. Which would get annoying. Not that I'm directing this at you personally, but people seem to be complaining that the game is too similar to another one, but then complain when the game doesn't have a feature that the other games have.

I know I was just saying neither games are simulators earlier, but, snipers shouldn't take 2 hits to kill like the semi auto one does. idk about the beta thing, but there isn't another option of sniper at the start apart from them. You can range snipe no problems, however proper crosshairs for it would be better. What sniper is there out there which uses a red dot sight over an actual scope? As for camping, look at the game now, people are already doing it so whacking a proper scope on, even if it is an unlock later on, wouldn't increase or decrease the number of campers I don't think.

Whilst on the subject of snipers, did DICE give in a little to the coD players and take out drop on the sniper bullets? I've noticed you can fire aiming directly at someone's head halfway across the map, and it will still hit for a headshot, rather than a body shot, or hitting the rock that is just covering their ankles (see last point for what I mean by that)

With prone, I wouldn't want it like in CoD where you could flop in the middle of a gun fight, I would want it so you could collapse quickly but then take a couple seconds to recompose yourself, so it would be for flopping behind cover in a hurry if you are under fire, or so it takes a while to get down, if using something like a sniper or LMG where prone position would offer less recoil and greater accuracy, and allow you to properly lay down suppressing fire.

I also noticed another flaw: Cover, or the lack of. Most of the cover is just lower than a shoulder high wall, so you crouch and the top of your head or your back is sticking out above, so what is the point? That and say you are under fire, so crouch to get behind a piece of cover, say the big blocks on the capture the flag/domination game mode (can't remember the name). While you are dropping down, it acts like you are still up, so you can be near entirely behind cover, yet taking bullets where you were, but aren't any more, so die
 
I know I was just saying neither games are simulators earlier, but, snipers shouldn't take 2 hits to kill like the semi auto one does. idk about the beta thing, but there isn't another option of sniper at the start apart from them. You can range snipe no problems, however proper crosshairs for it would be better. What sniper is there out there which uses a red dot sight over an actual scope? As for camping, look at the game now, people are already doing it so whacking a proper scope on, even if it is an unlock later on, wouldn't increase or decrease the number of campers I don't think.

Whilst on the subject of snipers, did DICE give in a little to the coD players and take out drop on the sniper bullets? I've noticed you can fire aiming directly at someone's head halfway across the map, and it will still hit for a headshot, rather than a body shot, or hitting the rock that is just covering their ankles (see last point for what I mean by that)

With prone, I wouldn't want it like in CoD where you could flop in the middle of a gun fight, I would want it so you could collapse quickly but then take a couple seconds to recompose yourself, so it would be for flopping behind cover in a hurry if you are under fire, or so it takes a while to get down, if using something like a sniper or LMG where prone position would offer less recoil and greater accuracy, and allow you to properly lay down suppressing fire.

I also noticed another flaw: Cover, or the lack of. Most of the cover is just lower than a shoulder high wall, so you crouch and the top of your head or your back is sticking out above, so what is the point? That and say you are under fire, so crouch to get behind a piece of cover, say the big blocks on the capture the flag/domination game mode (can't remember the name). While you are dropping down, it acts like you are still up, so you can be near entirely behind cover, yet taking bullets where you were, but aren't any more, so die

I don't know if I'd like one-shot semi-auto snipers.. sounds OPed. And this isn't Bad Company. So I can see why they didn't add in the bullet drop or even fully destructible terrain. That's Battlefield. And camping and covering sound like a map problem. I'll agree, I hate these maps, but they did the same with BC2, with Port Valdez.


There's still some time to alter things before the official release on the 12th. But I'm really enjoying the beta.
 
I don't know if I'd like one-shot semi-auto snipers.. sounds OPed. And this isn't Bad Company. So I can see why they didn't add in the bullet drop or even fully destructible terrain. That's Battlefield. And camping and covering sound like a map problem. I'll agree, I hate these maps, but they did the same with BC2, with Port Valdez.


There's still some time to alter things before the official release on the 12th. But I'm really enjoying the beta.

I think if they increased the recoil on the semi-auto rifles, it would be fine, because you wouldn't be able to keep picking off everyone, you would have to wait for the gun to come back. They should atleast make it so open tip bullets make it 1 shot kill, because with them, it is 2 shot, without them, it is 2 shot, so what is the point? May as well just keep the extra ammo clip.

For bullet drop, why does it have to be battlefield exclusive? The interfaces of the 3 games (CoD, BF and MoH) are pretty much interchangable, the gameplay between CoD and MoH are, they are all pretty much one in the same really. Bullet drop is a great feature I think, adds a bit of skill and a bit of realism into it.

I absolutely agree that the maps are crap, they are so plain and unimaginative and linear. However, I don't think it is entirely the maps, I agree the maps play a part, I can think, off the top of my head of atleast 9 places people camp on the flag gametype, and just about anywhere on the other gametype map, but the whole gameplay of it encourages camping. The gametypes and maps are like BC2, where you need teamwork to win, however the gameplay is like CoD, which unless you are playing competatively, isn't team based at all and nobody moves together, they either run around on their own, or they camp, which is exactly what you get in MoH
 
Just played the demo today and I thought it was pretty easy to play. It was way easier to play than MW2 and BC2 for sure. I found myself topping the scoreboard a couple times in a row.
 
Sure they don't stop in real war, but they don't run and gun directly at the enemy either. Neither games are simulators though, and neither are fun either



Count me out, not just because I would lag like a bitch because of location compared to most of you, but because the game is utter crap. Direct (bad) console port with so many problems, and I don't mean bugs, they are understandable because of it being beta, I mean fundamental gameplay flaws.

The only good thing, which isn't surprising because BC2 had the same, is the sounds are brilliant


Give it time. Are you not the one who badmouthed MW2 and said you wouldn't even buy it and are now playing it? Not trying to argue... just making a point.
 
I also badmouthed MW2 and i did not buy it but played it when Steam let us have it a couple of times for free.And i still think it is crap and as i said in my first post MoH is very much out of the same mould which as i have been playing it on Beta it looks like it could turn out like MW2.
 
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/medal-honor-series/1361951-top-3-improvements-list.html

Check it out. if most of the things on that list are done it could be a very successful game. but knowing DICE and their patches...

Also while playing, I never got any missle strikes or mortar strikes or anything. or do you need some epically long killstreak or something? IDK, but i always got killed by them which kinda annoyed me because i couldn't do it back :(


Same here.
 
Give it time. Are you not the one who badmouthed MW2 and said you wouldn't even buy it and are now playing it? Not trying to argue... just making a point.

I didn't buy it, my parents bought it for me for my birthday. Even owning it and after playing it for a decent amount of time, I still think it is a crap game, however most of the issues could be ironed out by dedi servers...

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/medal-honor-series/1361951-top-3-improvements-list.html

Check it out. if most of the things on that list are done it could be a very successful game. but knowing DICE and their patches...

Also while playing, I never got any missle strikes or mortar strikes or anything. or do you need some epically long killstreak or something? IDK, but i always got killed by them which kinda annoyed me because i couldn't do it back :(

you need 50 points for mortar strike, 100 for missile and I think it is 175 for the other, which I haven't got yet (apparently you get it at the end of the round). Look at the bottom right, it will say 0/50 at the start, and this will fill up as you get kills/do objectives/get ribbons and medals. Once it is 50, you can press 5 for mortar stirke, or 6 for a UAV. once it is 100, 5 for missile strike 6, to resupply all of your teams ammo and supplies

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and that list, if they implemented everything would be perfect for improving the game. Wouldn't make the game perfect, but would improve it vastly
 
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Oh, so I have to press the damned buttons! The bloody controls didn't tell me that :mad:

hehe I only knew because I went into controls to change a couple buttons around and saw them there. It doesn't tell you at all what to do
 
I hated mw2 and i think i am going to hate MoH as well,why do we have to run around like chickens with there heads cut off.At least in CoD4 you have a chance of a breather before getting killed.
Somebody needs to a) get much better, or b)play on an easier setting :P
Sure they don't stop in real war, but they don't run and gun directly at the enemy either. Neither games are simulators though, and neither are fun either
Haha, in the middle east they do :P And actually the harder the setting the less I noticed them running at you rather than using cover (Im still talking about MW@, havent played MoH)
I have done the war bit in my life and you dont going running around like in the game.Yes before someone says it's only a game i concur but i would still like to stop and have a look at my surroundings.I think i shall carry on playing CoD4.

Did you go to the middle east? Honestly I have no idea where you served but from what I gather, its pretty busy in the middle east. And like I said, you dont go running around...ya gotta learn the game.

IDK about MoH, haven't played it, but MW2 is awesome multiplayer (I'm only play split screen, beat the campaign at least once, not worth it again IMO)
 
Haha, in the middle east they do :P And actually the harder the setting the less I noticed them running at you rather than using cover (Im still talking about MW@, havent played MoH)


Did you go to the middle east? Honestly I have no idea where you served but from what I gather, its pretty busy in the middle east. And like I said, you dont go running around...ya gotta learn the game.

IDK about MoH, haven't played it, but MW2 is awesome multiplayer (I'm only play split screen, beat the campaign at least once, not worth it again IMO)

Did you?

idk about it being like that in the middle east. If our soldiers were running about in live enemy and friendly fire, we would have a hell of a lot more dead soldiers than we do. All footage I've seen they are firing from behind cover or from range, but never running out into fire. I'm not even going to begin to speculate what it is like, but I would ask someone that has been there first before attempting to do so. If you don't know someone irl, you can try throwing scout a pm asking if he wouldn't mind answering
 
I hated mw2 and i think i am going to hate MoH as well,why do we have to run around like chickens with there heads cut off.At least in CoD4 you have a chance of a breather before getting killed.

What are you smokin? People are always throwing random 'nades
 
So when does this game come out? I cannot remember. I played the beta, and while the beta had annoying problems it was still fun.
 
31!m!n80r i done a bit in the Falklands awhile back plus a few other places so i think i know a little about war which at your age you dont,only what you have read or played on your computer.But back to the game, it seems that they are making them at a faster pace and me being over 60yrs of age i cant keep up with you youngsters.:)
 
I thought the game was alright. I have only played BC2 campaign and thought MoH played very much like it. If people are saying its like BC2 why would they even release a game similar to it?

I just hope when they release BF3 they keep simple and fun like BF2 is. with 7 classes( i think?) non customizable weapons. Big maps. Jets and choppers. no campaign.
 
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