No Upgrade Since 2008, still running 40-50fps, Do Not Want To Upgrade Until 2028. Advice?

Discussion in 'Desktop Computers' started by gold333, Mar 6, 2018.

  1. gold333

    gold333 New Member

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    Hi,
    I've been getting 40-50 fps recently out of most AAA titles on this PC I built in 2008.

    Now I'm looking to upgrade as I want to enable 3D projector based 1:1 lifesize wall gaming and my PC can't keep up with the 3D system I bought.

    I have been out of the hardware loop since '08.

    Can anyone recommend a system (and CPU stepping) that I will (hopefully) not need to update until 2028?

    This is my system:

    (It was state of the art in 2008, but note it was not the ludicrously priced Extreme Edition variants, etc. It was just a common sense High End, extremely overclockable setup.)

    CPU: QX9650 @ 3.0 ghz (overclocked to 4.07ghz @ 1.28v for 10 years. Stepping E0 so more stable overclock)

    CPU Fan: ASUS Silent Knight II

    MB: ASUS Striker II NSE @ 1805 FSB (Note, not the expensive Extreme Edition)

    RAM: Corsair XMS3 DHX DDR3 @ 1650mhz

    HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

    GPU: ASUS GTX 670 TOP CUII (upgraded in '12, will replace with a GTX 1070 TOP CUII)

    POWER: Coolermaster 600W


    So as you can see it was overclockable, top of the line (at least it lasted me for 10 years) BUT it was not the most expensive of what you could buy in '08. I.e. It was not the expensive Extreme Edition or the mega high wattage hot running versions.

    What similar (air cooled) setup would members buy today that they could expect them to last for around another 10 years?

    Budget is around $1200 for just the MB, CPU, RAM and SSD, that's ideally including a GTX 1070, but I could use the 670 Top CUII for a little while if I must. No case or peripherals needed. Sweet overclockability would be nice. Ideally I'd like to keep to these brands as they've worked without a hitch for 10 years, but I'm open to other reliable brands.
     
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  2. Darren

    Darren Moderator Staff Member

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    Trying to plan for 10 years out is a fools errand, nobody can say for sure what the industry will or won't do. Buy the best you can afford for your budget, and that's all you can really do.

    If you want future upgradeability, get a Ryzen 2 system within the next few months as those motherboards should continue to get viable chips for at least another 2 generations after this. Intel changes socket every couple gens but AM4 platform should last at least 4 CPU generations I believe. GPU wise, prices are screwed right now. Hang onto the 670 for a while if you can and see if GPU prices come back down or a new gen drops (which I think is happening soon).
     
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  3. beers

    beers Moderator Staff Member

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    As per Darren there's huge inflation in the GPU space, -as well as- the DRAM space, but at least you have the 1070 already.

    If you want supreme longevity buy a Threadripper next year on 7nm.

    If you want to buy now the Intel X299 offerings or current gen Threadripper could probably make it with a GPU upgrade in there somewhere, although you'll blast your budget pretty hard.
    Y u do dis.
     
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  4. serve2000

    serve2000 New Member

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    Wait, full stop. I want you to tell me about this apparent mission to use a computer for 20 years straight. It sounds downright monastic and I want to hear how it is going at the halfway point. You have really buried your lede, good sir.
     
  5. Deerling7

    Deerling7 Active Member

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    This reminds me of Theseus's Paradox. If you slowly replace your computer piece by piece over the years, eventually it may not be the same PC at all.
     
  6. Darren

    Darren Moderator Staff Member

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    This is me. I built my first machine in 2011 and I've replaced every single piece except the HDD and DVD drive. It went through enough changes last year with Ryzen and my 1080 that it truly felt like a new PC again but up until that point it still semed like the same one despite over half the pieces being different.
     
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  7. Calin

    Calin Well-Known Member

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    I started out with a prebuilt I got when I was 3 or 4 years old and kept upgrading it to this day and now it's an 100% different PC but to my heart it's the same one :)
     
  8. gold333

    gold333 New Member

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    Nonono.

    I used the QX9650 until today and was looking for a replacement to last me the coming years. Ok so 2028 is fantasyland but something to last atleast a couple years.

    Are we all agreed that (on intel) the 8700k is the best bang for buck on the high end scale?
     
  9. Darren

    Darren Moderator Staff Member

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    For longevity? No. AM4 or TR4 will let you update the CPU without a whole platform/motherboard upgrade.
     
  10. gold333

    gold333 New Member

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    Ok but arent am4 and tr4 AMD solutions? I'm more of an Intel guy.
     
  11. beers

    beers Moderator Staff Member

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    X299 or Z370 for you then my friend, however comparable Intel processors are noticeably more expensive as you start getting up in the core count department such as ~$1550 for a 16 core 7960X as compared to ~$900 for the 1950X
     
  12. Intel_man

    Intel_man VIP Member

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    Y u do dis.
     
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  13. Laquer Head

    Laquer Head Well-Known Member

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    I built my machine less than 12 months ago and I'm already thinking new build by the summer... lol..

    20 years is madness
     
  14. Darren

    Darren Moderator Staff Member

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    With what? You don't even have any upgrade room until new stuff comes out. :p

    Also totally thought you ded
     
  15. Intel_man

    Intel_man VIP Member

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    He could totally buy a titan v. :eek:
     
  16. beers

    beers Moderator Staff Member

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    Ampere rumored for July ER MA GHERD
     
  17. Laquer Head

    Laquer Head Well-Known Member

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    I've been busy with life.

    but yah.. nothing new out yet that i want
     
  18. gold333

    gold333 New Member

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    Ok, I've decided on the following. I think this is in 2018 what my PC was in 2008.

    Does anyone know if I will still be able to use my PSU from 2008 for a few months until I upgrade the GTX670 to a 1080, and if I leave the 8700 on stock OC for now? The PSU is a Coolermaster Silent Pro 600W:

    Asus ROG Maximus X Apex
    Intel Core i7 8700K
    G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4 4266 MHz 16GB (2x 8GB)
    WD Black 3D NAND NVME SSD 1TB M.2
    Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120R RGB (my case doesn't have space for the double fan 240R version)
    Geforce GTX670 (for now)



    PPS: sorry I wrote I had an QX9650. Obviously I meant Q9650. Not that overheating QX version.
     
  19. johnb35

    johnb35 Administrator Staff Member

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    If its 10 years old, replace it asap.
     
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  20. peter912

    peter912 Member

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    You were only 3 years old and knew how to use a computer already, wow
     

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