Processor replacement
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Would i notice much performance differance if i replaced my Sempron 2800+ to an Athlon?
Maybe a faster Athlon?
I dunno what the fastest socket A Athlon is.(There is one right?)
The highest model Atholon was the XP3200 and the first cpu to support the dual channel mode. The Soxket 754 boards to follow were strictly single channel. That was the gain running the 3200+ while the clock speeds went higher with the Sempron line. The 3200+ ran at 2.205 to 2.21ghz and pretty much has a locked multiplier. Some batches were unlocked if you managed to get the right dated batch however. The Barton cored Atholon 2500+ was the OCer's dream at the time. The 3000+ wasn't bad but was still sngle channel.
You really have trouble with this, don't you.
Why not just answer his question? Maybe like I did.
You can get a little more performace out of an Athlon XP, but not really enough to justify spending money on this old of a computer.
The CPU did not have anything to do with dual channel, you could run any socket A XP Athlon on the Socket A dual channel board. There is no memory controller on XP athlons, the memory controller was run off the northbridge!!
They made a 3000+ and a 3200+ there not made anymore so there kinda high, think the last 3000+ sold on newegg was like 123 bucks
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The XP3200 was the first model cpu to have the needed dual channel support designed into it. That was the one thing that made it different from the rest of the pre-AMD64 939 models.
There was no difference, theres no memory controller on any of the XP Athlons, you can run a Athlon XP 2400+ on a dual channel socket A board and it runs in dual channel the same as the 3200+. The socket A boards that had dual channel, it was controlled by the Northbridge chip on the motherboard, the (processor) had (nothing) to do with it!!! The first Athlon to have any type of memory controller (at all) was the 754
Oh you think so?
I ran 3 different Atholon XP models on the last system where the board remained in single channel mode with the XP2600+ and XP3000+. It was one of the main reasons why the XP3200+ was bought in the first place to finally see the dual channel capability. Otherwise a faster clock speed with a Sempron model would have been the choice.And where are you coming up with the crap about a memory controller in the cpu?
As I mentioned earlier the 3200+ was the first cpu actually designed as a dual channel cpu. The boards had it but not the cpus.
And where are you coming up with the crap about a memory controller in the cpu?
Now think about what you just said!! (The board had it not the CPU)
Now show me one site that show the XP 3200+ as having anything different then any XP athlon as far as dual channel goes!! It doesnt!
What do you DDR or Double Data Rate refers to? The cpus hadn't caught upto the memory at that time. The overview on the XP3200 is long gone at this time. That was available in 2003+04 right in AMD's own product overview and development pages. It definitely made the difference when moving from the 3000+ to the 3200+ on the last build here.
Dont stray from your statement, DDR has nothing to do with what you said, were talking Dual Channel, Hell I have the first socket A DDR board made. Like I said even if you want to talk DDR or Dual channel it was all controlled by the northbridge chip. But the XP 3000+ and 3200+ were really duds, not much gain, some 2800+ would out clock them!
That's not even close at those links.
One obvious difference besides the architecture was the fsb was seen at 400mhz while the 3000+ runs at 333mhz. The 3200+ wasn't an ocer's dream by any means due to most of them having locked multipliers. But there were some batches that got through that smoked Intel. Even one review points at that as seen in the review here. http://www.hardwarereview.net/Reviews/AMD Athlon XP3200/XP3200.htm
That's not even close at those links.
Because it doesnt. One running at 166 and the other at 200 FSB is the only difference and theres (no) architecture difference to have anything to do with dual channeel or DDR, the 3200 is only like 46 mhz. faster!
Here is a test between running in single vs. dual channel, and guess what!! there using a Athlon XP (2700) give it up man, dual channel is controlled by the chipset not the CPU on a socket A
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/nforce2-1vs2channels/
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As usual you have already gone astray somewhere in limbo.
I never said that the dual channel was controlled by the 3200+ But what you keep missing is the design difference as well as the faster bus speed with that model. ANd after 3yrs. the only thing found at AMD on that model looks like... http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blankpagefounduu6.jpg
As usual you have already gone astray somewhere in limbo.
The highest model Atholon was the XP3200 and the (first) cpu to support the dual channel mode is what you said
One obvious difference besides the architecture, explain the different architecture?
As I mentioned earlier the 3200+ was the first cpu actually (designed as a dual channel cpu)- there another one!
The XP3200 was the first model cpu to have the needed dual channel support designed into it--Explain that one!!!
One of the reasons why I went with the XP3200+ instead of going with a faster Sempron model on the Asus A7N8X Deluxe board when originally moving up from an older build with an XP1800 was the information on that being the first AMD dual channel cpu. That was seen at AMD's own site in 2003. The Semprons remained single channel just like the Socket 754 64bit models to come after. You will note that all 754 boards are single channel only.
I'll give you another little surprise. When ocing the 3200+ to 2.3ghz the following post screen listed it as an.... "AMD Atholon XP3400+".
AMD backed away until the 939 models in favor of the 754s otherwise the next one or more Socket A models there would have also been dual channel as well with the new dual channel architecture. Unfortunately a blank page instead of a full page explaination is all that has been found when trying to relocate the original product description.
One of the reasons why I went with the XP3200+ instead of going with a faster Sempron model on the Asus A7N8X Deluxe board when originally moving up from an older build with an XP1800 was the information on that being the first AMD dual channel cpu. That was seen at AMD's own site in 2003. The Semprons remained single channel just like the Socket 754 64bit models to come after. You will note that all 754 boards are single channel only.
I'll give you another little surprise. When ocing the 3200+ to 2.3ghz the following post screen listed it as an.... "AMD Atholon XP3400+".
Blah Blah Blah. The only thing that suprises me is your Gab for Bullshit!
Wow, you finally realized it! I got out of this argument while I was still ahead....