1st time Oc'ing

Discussion in 'CPUs and Overclocking' started by raoul_1101, Aug 26, 2007.

  1. raoul_1101

    raoul_1101 New Member

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    Hi, i have no experience with overclocking what so ever. All i know is it has to do with adjusting to voltage to make the cpu run faster. but i have a couple questioins:
    Do you change the voltage in bios or cmos?
    Do you have to disable any intigrated systems or anything in order to oc?
    I have an intel e6400 and a gigabite 965P/G-DS4 mobo. how high (in voltage) do you think i couold get it?
     
  2. Reneki

    Reneki New Member

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    look up the millions of tutorials online, then come back and ask questions.
     
  3. Zangetsu

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    Now now, don't be so hard on him.

    Hi raoul_1101,

    Do you change the voltage in bios or cmos?: If your motherboard can overclock the voltage, then you have to do it trough your bios. CMOS is something else, that has nothing to do with overclocking. Well... except if you screw it up.

    Do you have to disable any intigrated systems or anything in order to oc? Not really. The easiest way to overclock is to go to your bios and overclock your FSB with 5 MHZ, but do this step by step. By that I mean overclock 5MHZ, reboot, test your system, then overclock again.

    I have an intel e6400 and a gigabite 965P/G-DS4 mobo. how high (in voltage) do you think i couold get it?I can't answer to that.

    Zangetsu
     
  4. raoul_1101

    raoul_1101 New Member

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    ok, ive read up more than when i started the thread....
    still a couple things i want to clear up:

    This is a really rough understanding so far, but m trying to learn more. correct me where im wrong please...

    I.There are two ways to OC your processor:
    1. Increase the Multiplier. Although, most processors have locked
    multipliers, so this usually cant be done
    2. Increase the voltage in the BIOS (Vcore?). This will also increase the
    voltage of other coponants, such as pci, pci-e, and agp cards, as well as
    the ram.
    a. This will cause, say, ddr2 800 ram to run at higher speeds, such as 810
    mHz. Once youve increased the voltage enough, you can lower the
    memory's voltage to bring it back down to, say, 800 mHz again.
     
  5. ThatGuy16

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    It should be in Bios, if you can you don't want to mess with the voltage if your new to oc'ing and it will make it run warmer. First you would probably want to set the ram ratio to 1:1 and start to up the "FSB" up little by little to start. Look at Overclocking 101 it gives some detailed info.
     
  6. ThatGuy16

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    What are your full system specs such as ram/cooler ect.?
     
  7. taylormsj

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    Increasing the voltage alone wont higher the frequency, you actually have to higher the FSB and the voltage accordingly
     
  8. raoul_1101

    raoul_1101 New Member

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    evga 8800 640 mb
    core 2 duo e6400
    Gigabyte 965P/G-DS4
    2 gb corsair ddr2 800 ram
    thermaltake silent 775d, i think, running at about 29 degrees celcius

    you up the voltage because... higher fsb requires more power to the cpu?

    what does changing the ram ratio do?
     
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  9. ThatGuy16

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    Changing the fsb also overclocks the ram, by changing the ratio it helps you not to over overclock the ram. Just up the fsb for the cpu little at a time and you don't want to change the Vcore "voltage" unless you need to because you can OC with stock voltage but if it becomes unstable then you would need to up the voltage buy like .05 at a time. Like me mine stock is 2.8ghz, i have it at 3.27 with stock volts perfectly stable. Just an example because they are totally different cpu's.
     
  10. raoul_1101

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    Will changing the fsb also change the speed of my pci-e and pci ports?
    If the ram ratio is set 1:1, will changing the fsb not overclock the ram at all?
    So, i should up the fsb by .05-.1 at a time, until say, the computer no longer boots, and then raise the voltage (if i wanted to push the processor that far)?
     
  11. ThatGuy16

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    Since it your first i wouldn't push it that far. Im not sure about it oc'ing the "pci ports" i know mine Overclocks the Hyper transport rate for the chipset but im not sure on that board. But i would start at .1 then .01-.05
     
  12. raoul_1101

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    Ok, so i shouldnt have to worry about damage to any of my cards when changing the fsb.
    Im going to slowly put up the fsb in the bios. other than not booting up (if it is unstable, does it still go into the bios when i turn it on?), are there any other signs of instability i should look for?

    what programs should i use to check for instability?
     
  13. ThatGuy16

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    It might make a few beeps if it wont boot then reset cmos and enter bios, so it would change it back to stock fsb. If it boots you can use prime95 "Orthos" to put a 100% load for any amount of time to see if its stable
     
  14. raoul_1101

    raoul_1101 New Member

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    could you rephrase that?

    where can i download prime 95?
     
  15. ThatGuy16

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    I mean it will reset cmos "resets your fsb and all" and enter bios, sorry.. lol

    I found it here

    Link
     
  16. oscaryu1

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    It's called

    http://www.computerforum.com/16346-overclocking-101-oc101.html

    ...

    1. Up the multiplier to the maximum.
    2. Raise the CPU clock or FSB.
    3. When you get to the point it wont show the screen again, reset the cmos
    4. reclock to the max and no more, save, raise the voltage, and start upping the clock/fsb again...
    5. check your temps.. over 40C is a bit hot... (idle)

    OPTIONAL -

    Arctic Silver 5...
    Aftermarket Cooler
     
  17. raoul_1101

    raoul_1101 New Member

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    Prime 95 doesn't list vista as a compatable OS...
    would it work anyway? (64-bit vista)
     
  18. ThatGuy16

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    I have 64bit vista and it works fine for me
     
  19. StrangleHold

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    First off set your memory back, say if its DDR2 800, set it back to 667. if it 677 go to 533. Raising your FSB will overclock the memory too. Then start raising your FSB little by little till it gets unstable then back off some. If thats not high enough start raising your processors voltage alittle at a time to get it stable but keep a eye on your CPU temps if you start raising the voltage
    As far as your PCI/PCIe bus, being a Gigabyte board there probably locked at 33/100mhz.
     
  20. raoul_1101

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    Ok, as i overclock, the memory will overclock too. When in windows, how can i tell the speed my memory is running at?
     

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