$500 APU Build for Video Editing?

spirit

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It would be a better idea to get 8GB from the start. Can't remember the last time I built a system with less than 8GB of RAM anyway.
 

Okedokey

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I agree with spirit, 4GB is by no means enough for video editing.

If you can wait and save and get everything in one hit later, you'll always get more with computers.

Also, make sure you check that the GPU is supported on software that he'll use for acceleration. If he doesn't game, and the card wont support acceleration (or he doesn't need to), then get the cheapest GPU you can find (e..g 6540 or something) and spend the extra money on RAM.
 
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Luxio

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Also, make sure you check that the GPU is supported on software that he'll use for acceleration. If he doesn't game, and the card wont support acceleration (or he doesn't need to), then get the cheapest GPU you can find (e..g 6540 or something) and spend the extra money on RAM.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for. The system requirements for Sony Vegas (which is what he'll be using for editing) are low enough, but I can't find much real world experience on what the minimum video card would be and how it would perform.

But when I'm trying to find good deals on video cards it seems like the performance drops faster than the price. Like there's a $100 650 Ti....and then there's a 7750 for $90....and a 6750 (cheapest from a reliable website) is $75....
Seems like more of a waste the lower I go....

Argh....Anyway, so RAM is most likely going to become more expensive, but are video cards going to drop in price any time soon?
 
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spirit

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No video cards won't become any cheaper.

My friend uses Vegas Movie Studio 10 on his PC with an AMD Phenom II X4 840 and 4GB of RAM and he has an ATI 5670 graphics card. Works well enough I guess but having another 4GB of RAM would help him I think (as well as a stronger CPU, but the FX-6300 has two more cores than his 840 and is a stronger chip anyway).

Not sure which edition of Vegas you're using (Pro or Movie Studio) but it looks like you might be able to enable CUDA support in Vegas 12, so it'd be worth getting the GTX 650 Ti if so. There's some information on it here: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/gpuacceleration

I don't think anything older than Vegas 12 supports CUDA, so in that case you could get a cheap Radeon or something like Okedokey suggested.
 

Luxio

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No video cards won't become any cheaper.

My friend uses Vegas Movie Studio 10 on his PC with an AMD Phenom II X4 840 and 4GB of RAM and he has an ATI 5670 graphics card. Works well enough I guess but having another 4GB of RAM would help him I think (as well as a stronger CPU, but the FX-6300 has two more cores than his 840 and is a stronger chip anyway).

Not sure which edition of Vegas you're using (Pro or Movie Studio) but it looks like you might be able to enable CUDA support in Vegas 12, so it'd be worth getting the GTX 650 Ti if so. There's some information on it here: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/gpuacceleration

I don't think anything older than Vegas 12 supports CUDA, so in that case you could get a cheap Radeon or something like Okedokey suggested.

Alright, well he is probably going to use the newest Vegas so it's worth getting the gtx 650-ti and it looks like he's getting less impatient about getting the parts now that he's seeing the prices. So he's going to work a little more to get the stuff he wants.

As for the RAM, we actually saw some Kingston 8GB 1600 for $63 at Best Buy, so he bought it. This model:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...04301&ef_id=UqJZ8gAABQK2qllp:20140127031414:s
 

Luxio

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The FX-8320 is only $100 at Microcenter right now, cheaper than the FX-6300! As soon as my friend gets back from school, we're going to go over and get it.

Only question....will this affect the motherboard at all? I've read several reviews on the lower end motherboards that they struggled to keep up with the 8-cores...
 

spirit

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Well you're gonna need to get an AM3+ motherboard whether you go for the FX-6300 or the FX-8320, because an AM3+ CPU won't physically fit into the FM2 socket which the board you linked to in your first post has.

Try to get one with a 970 chipset if you can, but really any AM3+ board from Gigabyte, MSI or ASUS will be fine with the FX-6300 or the FX-8320.
 

Luxio

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Well you're gonna need to get an AM3+ motherboard whether you go for the FX-6300 or the FX-8320, because an AM3+ CPU won't physically fit into the FM2 socket which the board you linked to in your first post has.

Try to get one with a 970 chipset if you can, but really any AM3+ board from Gigabyte, MSI or ASUS will be fine with the FX-6300 or the FX-8320.

I think the 970s are a little over-budget for now. How about this one:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/379475/M5A78L-M_LX_PLUS_Socket_AM3_760G_mATX_AMD_Motherboard

We can pick it up at microcenter at the same time as the 8320. And my friend's not going to overclock at all, so that's not an issue.
 

spirit

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Yeah that'll be fine so long as he's happy with the mATX form factor. Are there any ATX AM3+ boards in your price range? You'd only buy mATX if you wanted to save space and house the board in a little case.
 

Luxio

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Yeah that'll be fine so long as he's happy with the mATX form factor. Are there any ATX AM3+ boards in your price range? You'd only buy mATX if you wanted to save space and house the board in a little case.

Well when we went to microcenter for the 8320, there was a mobo cpu combo deal for $40 off, so we ended up getting this motherboard with it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872
(For some reason this model doesn't show up on microcenter's website)

The total with tax for both was around $157 and then there's a $10 mail in rebate.

I didn't have any time to research the other motherboards, but the guy at microcenter recommended this one. After some research now, though...it looks like I could've easily gone with the non LE version (which is actually cheaper on the microcenter website...)

Anyway, is this a good motherboard? Or should I see if I can get a better one and go back to exchange it?
 

Luxio

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That motherboard is fine, just make sure you update the bios.https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A97_LE_R20/#support

Okay, yeah that's what I was reading. Thanks!

I'm pretty happy with the deal, I'll try and convince my friend that it's not worth it to fuss over getting a different mobo.

Now we are debating cases (which I know is more of a personal preference), and Microcenter had a lot and I think they cycle through them pretty quickly. Off hand there were 3 pretty good ones at good prices.

NZXT Source 210 for $30
Thermaltake Commander for $35 after rebate
Zalman Z11 for $55

Ideally we'd want something for under $40, but my friend really wants it to look nice. The NZXT has really good reviews but is a little too plain for him and the Thermaltake Commander White version is nice... Main thing is that he has seen the really nice looking cases and I think it's hard for him to settle down to a budget case that maybe doesn't look as nice.

But if anyone has any suggestions that'd be great!

Also, here's an update on what we've bought so far:

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872

Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104301

$220 so far...(newegg links just for reference, didn't actually buy everything from there)
 

spirit

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The board you've got is good, so don't exchange it. Case wise, I'd go Source 210 or Z11. See if the Corsair 200R is within your prince range. That's a nice little case. :) It might only be mATX though - can't remember. You'll need to check that. ;)
 

Luxio

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No that PSU aint that great. Get something like this instead... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049

430 watts will be enough? That's actually what I was looking at at the beginning, but thought that the build needed a little more just in case.

Also, what's the difference between these two:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/406086/CX_Series_CX430M_430_Watt_ATX_Modular_Power_Supply

http://www.microcenter.com/product/399979/Builder_Series_CX430_430_Watt_ATX_12V_Power_Supply
 
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Luxio

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The board you've got is good, so don't exchange it. Case wise, I'd go Source 210 or Z11. See if the Corsair 200R is within your prince range. That's a nice little case. :) It might only be mATX though - can't remember. You'll need to check that. ;)

I really like the 200R as well, I'll show it to my friend again and see what he thinks. There was a great deal on the Zalman Z9 at Microcenter for around $38, and we were going to check it out, but it went out of stock pretty quickly. He actually liked that one. He doesn't like how the Z11 looks, which is a shame. It comes with quite a few fans and that alone makes it worth the price, if you were going to buy more fans for another case anyway.

He's in love with the Thermaltake T21 right now so if that goes on sale let me know ;)
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002141
 

spirit

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The Thermaltake looks OK but I think the Corsairs and Zalmans have better cable management features.
 

Luxio

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Okay, my friend is starting to like the Zalman Z11 but Microcenter is getting more cases tomorrow, so we'll see if they restock the Z9. It was only $37 last time it was in stock so that would save some money and I think he likes how it looks.

And the sale for the Z11 started yesterday and one guy there said that it was going to last for 2 weeks, so we have some time.

Edit/Update: Okay the Z9 isn't in stock at microcenter but on newegg the U3 version is available for $40 after a promo code:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235036

Also, the BitFenix Shinobi is available for $50 after promo code:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345010

Anyone have any experience with these three cases? They all seem like pretty good bets, but just curious to hear opinions.
 
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