help with watercooling
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just a noob
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The only thing I can really see wrong is that you would want to add in a second radiator or run everything in series
FuryRosewood
Active Member
Run a thick rad at the back where the 120mm fan is, run a thinner but 240 mm rad up top? thats all i could think of...otherwise might be able to bolt a 120mm or something up in the front where the 5.25 bays are at.
Machin3
New Member
Man, to be honest if I were you, I would run everything in one continuous loop. If your going to to 2 loops then that's gonna cost you a bit. Besides, I don't really know if there's a point in doing that. I've seen people WC with 4 video cards and a cpu on one loop and still get amazing temps.
All you need to do is get at least a triple fan radiator and then at least a single or double fan radiator.
Otherwise with 2 pumps sucking on one resevoir, you'l probably create unneeded pressure inside.
And that Dual MCP-355X2 pump Bigfella suggested is rediculous overkill. This is going into a switch 810 not a caselabs TX10.
All you need to do is get at least a triple fan radiator and then at least a single or double fan radiator.
Otherwise with 2 pumps sucking on one resevoir, you'l probably create unneeded pressure inside.
And that Dual MCP-355X2 pump Bigfella suggested is rediculous overkill. This is going into a switch 810 not a caselabs TX10.
wolfeking
banned
okay, what parts would you suggest to get it up and running cooling 3 480s (SLI and a dedicated folder) and a 2600k in a switch 810 or similar sized case? I don't need overkill. 9TB RAID and 480s are my overkill on it. PLus there is only a year till it gets replaces with Haswell and a LGA 1150 in a Z87 or whatever they make for it. But the loop should just need a new CPU block for that, so no worries.
Anyway, what would cool all this well? you seems to know your stuff, so Ill probably go with your suggestions.
Anyway, what would cool all this well? you seems to know your stuff, so Ill probably go with your suggestions.
Machin3
New Member
If you like to be creative, and this is just a suggestion, you can put a nice thick triple fan radiator on top like an xspc rx series or similar, and like i said, creativity and planning, you can remove the bottom plate in the case next to the single fan mount to uncover it to be dual and install a dual fan radiator on the bottom of the case. And finally you can install a single fan radiator on the exhaust in the back (optional).
You'll probably have to drill a couple of holes on the mobo tray to mount the pump and res. It will be kind of tight but, like I said with time, patience and planning, it can all get done.
I was looking at some friend's builds to see what they did if you want a place for ideas (not promoting anything btw, just not gonna post huge pictures on here.)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1269782/...xt-switch-810-water-cooled/0_20#post_17497793
Here's 2 radiator config: 1x triple fan & 1x single fan:
You'll probably have to drill a couple of holes on the mobo tray to mount the pump and res. It will be kind of tight but, like I said with time, patience and planning, it can all get done.
I was looking at some friend's builds to see what they did if you want a place for ideas
(not promoting anything btw, just not gonna post huge pictures on here.)http://www.overclock.net/t/1269782/...xt-switch-810-water-cooled/0_20#post_17497793
Here's 2 radiator config: 1x triple fan & 1x single fan:
just a noob
Well-Known Member
Go with two pumps in a single loop for redundancy, there will also be no extra pressure created in the reservoir...
Machin3
New Member
There's really no point though going with 2 pumps. The case is not that big that you need that much power in it. An MCP655 will do plenty. My case is bigger and STILL works plenty good on a 655 pump, especially since im going through 3 radiators and 2 blocks.
Listen guys, not trying to be a troll or anything, but there is really no point in wasting money on another pump. He always has the option on changing his loop to meet his requirements, but adding in another pump is much overkill.
From the looks of it, it will only be 4 blocks. (1 cpu and 3 video card) plus 1 or 2 radiators. A 655 pump is more than sufficient for that config considering that you can set the flow speed on the pump.
Listen guys, not trying to be a troll or anything, but there is really no point in wasting money on another pump. He always has the option on changing his loop to meet his requirements, but adding in another pump is much overkill.
From the looks of it, it will only be 4 blocks. (1 cpu and 3 video card) plus 1 or 2 radiators. A 655 pump is more than sufficient for that config considering that you can set the flow speed on the pump.
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just a noob
Well-Known Member
no, it will keep pumping regardless. And pumps do fail, I actually had a ddc die on my desk and it left a burn mark(swiftech gave me the bird and said I done it)
just a noob
Well-Known Member
the impeller actually sits on a ceramic bearing, and then the stator causes it to rotate with a magnetic field, so yeah
wolfeking
banned
okay. Resurrection! lol.
Anyway, I have been looking, and thinking, and looking a lot recently (like in the last 2 hour or so) and have had an idea. That idea being I know nothing of water cooling in a nutshell, so maybe someone makes a kit that I can lego together to be sure everything is compatible, and that I do not miss anything. And I found a few, but I don't know how good they are.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ling_Kit_w_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g30c83s137 (probably no good at all)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...er_240_DDCXT_-_Kit.html?tl=g30c321s1793#blank
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...EK-KIT_H3O_240_HFX.html?tl=g30c321s1367#blank (I like this one)
Going with a 240mm because I do not have room for a 360 mm in my case (HAF912). I do have room for 2x240 and 1x120 though. Which is way overkill, but may be an option in the future.
All I am going to running for right now is a 2600k @ 5GHz+ (depending on what I can get stable). Hoping to get temps lower than a closed loop system. So probably running a 240 with a 120 for CPU only? And future GPU upgrade go to 2x240 and 1x120?
The idea for the setup, at least for now, is to have the Resv. in the optical bays, the pump bolted to the top of the 2.5" HDD bay, the 240 rad up top and the 120 out back.
Want clear tubing, and no dyes or anything that is not necessary.
am I dreaming, or will this work okay?
Anyway, I have been looking, and thinking, and looking a lot recently (like in the last 2 hour or so) and have had an idea. That idea being I know nothing of water cooling in a nutshell, so maybe someone makes a kit that I can lego together to be sure everything is compatible, and that I do not miss anything. And I found a few, but I don't know how good they are.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ling_Kit_w_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g30c83s137 (probably no good at all)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...er_240_DDCXT_-_Kit.html?tl=g30c321s1793#blank
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...EK-KIT_H3O_240_HFX.html?tl=g30c321s1367#blank (I like this one)
Going with a 240mm because I do not have room for a 360 mm in my case (HAF912). I do have room for 2x240 and 1x120 though. Which is way overkill, but may be an option in the future.
All I am going to running for right now is a 2600k @ 5GHz+ (depending on what I can get stable). Hoping to get temps lower than a closed loop system. So probably running a 240 with a 120 for CPU only? And future GPU upgrade go to 2x240 and 1x120?
The idea for the setup, at least for now, is to have the Resv. in the optical bays, the pump bolted to the top of the 2.5" HDD bay, the 240 rad up top and the 120 out back.
Want clear tubing, and no dyes or anything that is not necessary.
am I dreaming, or will this work okay?
Buzz1927
Digaredd
This kit is better, good pump and you've got the res in the optical bays.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1..._Included_and_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g30c321
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1..._Included_and_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g30c321
wolfeking
banned
would you recommend that I go and build it myself? I have gone through that site and tried already, but I don't know how good it would be for the price. Came out to 321.63 without fittings and clamps (because I forgot to add them up)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...uctive_Thermal_Compound_4g.html?tl=g8c127s769 (This should be good, yes? I'm out of AS5, so I am hoping this is good, or I will just go back to AS5)
(4x) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...0mm_Fan_CO-9050007-WW.html?tl=g36c15s60#blank (high static pressure is for rads, yes? If these are not good, then could you recommend some good fans?)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...Ready_Apogee-HD-BK.html?tl=g30c325s1118#blank (I have no clue on water blocks, but I assume it is good. It at least looks good. What would you recommend if it is not good?)
(10x) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2121/ex-mis-01/38_ID_-_12OD_PVC_Clear_Tubing.html?tl=g30c99s171 (just tube, not much more)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...-_Clear_Silver_Black.html?tl=g30c97s168#blank (cheap resv. 370ml capacity. Sounds big, but not sure. Is a dual bay one even necessary?)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...version_Kit_317_GPH.html?tl=g30c107s153#blank (Pump. expensive. But I have herd about it, and it looks like a good pump I think.)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ter_-_1_Gallon_PC-BASE128.html?tl=g30c103s753 (Its water. What more is to be said? Or could I just get some distilled water at the store to use?)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5...treme_240_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s160 (rad. Not sure if it is good, but the marketing makes it look good)
so with all that, with the exception of any changes all I will need is 4 barbs and 6-10 hose clamps to be done? how would the performance be compared to a kit like the XSPC one?
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...uctive_Thermal_Compound_4g.html?tl=g8c127s769 (This should be good, yes? I'm out of AS5, so I am hoping this is good, or I will just go back to AS5)
(4x) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...0mm_Fan_CO-9050007-WW.html?tl=g36c15s60#blank (high static pressure is for rads, yes? If these are not good, then could you recommend some good fans?)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...Ready_Apogee-HD-BK.html?tl=g30c325s1118#blank (I have no clue on water blocks, but I assume it is good. It at least looks good. What would you recommend if it is not good?)
(10x) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2121/ex-mis-01/38_ID_-_12OD_PVC_Clear_Tubing.html?tl=g30c99s171 (just tube, not much more)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...-_Clear_Silver_Black.html?tl=g30c97s168#blank (cheap resv. 370ml capacity. Sounds big, but not sure. Is a dual bay one even necessary?)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...version_Kit_317_GPH.html?tl=g30c107s153#blank (Pump. expensive. But I have herd about it, and it looks like a good pump I think.)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ter_-_1_Gallon_PC-BASE128.html?tl=g30c103s753 (Its water. What more is to be said? Or could I just get some distilled water at the store to use?)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5...treme_240_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s160 (rad. Not sure if it is good, but the marketing makes it look good)
so with all that, with the exception of any changes all I will need is 4 barbs and 6-10 hose clamps to be done? how would the performance be compared to a kit like the XSPC one?
Buzz1927
Digaredd
That thermal paste is good, it's what I use
Never seen those fans, fan choice depends on the rad (see below)
Most cpu blocks will give similar temps, get the one you like the look of!
If you're cramped for room in the case, a bay res is good, the one in the kit I linked houses the pump as well (hence using 2 slots). Again down to your personal preference.
Pump is good, you might be able to get one cheaper just a different brand.
Just get some distilled water from the hardware store and use a silver coil.
That rad is 20fpi (fins per inch), the more fpi the more powerful fans you need, you should get a fan controller whatever rad you go with, depends on how quiet you want things.
I'd also use compression fittings over barbs, safer and look much better.
Whatever you do, when you first put it in the case, cover all your components with towels and tissues and run the loop for 24 hours to check for leaks, cross your fingers and hope you don't fry your comp!
Okedokey
Well-Known Member
Do not add silver. Just add anticorrosive.
Silver will root your system. This is why some distributers no longer stock it.
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_90_1133
and
Silver will root your system. This is why some distributers no longer stock it.
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_90_1133
and
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IMAGES/Corrosion_Report_Final.pdf