Need to Slim my build for my budget

[mikey4865]

Hey all,

So my main goal is to get be able to run Solid works 2013 and Part maker 2013 at the same time. My computer right now is terrible and needs to be replaced. My budget is around $800. Could Probably get up to $900 if very necessary. I would also like to keep my options open to upgrade this rig in the future. Such as adding an extra video card (SLI Ready), increasing my RAM, or possibly increasing my SSD storage.

Here is what I came up with rather quickly it comes out to around $1200, that's without a case or any extra fans or cooling equipment (which I imagine will be necessary)

My ideal necessities:
SATA III Compatible
LGA 1150 (would upgrade but not downgrade from this)
PCI E 3.0 SLI Supported
Intel Core i7
8gb RAM
1TB VelociRaptor Hard Drive
60gb-120gb SSD SATA III


ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $204.99

GIGABYTE GV-N660OC-2GD GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $199.99

Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K $339.99

Rosewill CAPSTONE-550 550W Continuous @ 50°C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD, ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92, SLI/CrossFire Ready, Active PFC Power Supply $79.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL $71.99

Western Digital WD VelociRaptor WD5000HHTZ 500GB 10000 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM $149.99

Seagate 600 Series ST120HM000 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $109.99

+ Case
+ Fans
+ Liquid Cooling

Approx $1200

Budget $800

Thanks in advance for any advice and/or suggestions on cutting this build down to a manageable price point.

-All Prices from Newegg

 

[daisymtc]

If you really want to stick to $800, get AMD.

If you want intel
CPU - Cheaper i5 4670K
Mobo - Cheaper ASUS Z87-A
RAM - Don't see the point getting DDR3 1600 @ $72. You can find DDR3 2133 or DDR3 2400 starting at $70

PSU - If you want to SLi in future, Go for something over 700W

HDD - I don't see the point getting WD VelociRaptor for storage. Get normal 1 TB HDD

 

[salvage-this]

If your focus is only for design software and not gaming ditch the 660 and get a professional GPU.

https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/64436

Unless you are overclocking you do not need a motherboard that good, the unlocked version of the 4770 or liquid cooling.

Even if you do not need the higher wattage for SLI. I would pick out something from Seasonic/xfx/Corsair/PC P&C/Antec

I would probably upgrade the RAM to 16gb but 8gb is probably fine if you need to save a few bucks.

I would drop the SSD for now. 60gb is really considered a bare minimum for most people. I doubt you have enough space for Windows + your design applications + design files so I think the benefit is not worth the price for that budget.

 

[mikey4865]

Thanks for the help, looking into all the info now.

 

[Jiniix]

I agree with the previous posts. You won't see much benefit from the VelociRaptor drivers.
Get a Seagate Barracuda 1TB instead. But don't go for the Seagate SSDs. Seagate should stick to HDDs - that's what they're really good at.
Instead I would recommend the Samsung 840 Evo 120GB. Very aggresively priced and probably best price/performance SSD out there at the moment.
Salvage-this is right about the PSU. Rosewill is a cheap brand, thus it should be avoided.
On a budget, I would recommend the Corsair CX series, but Seasonic probably makes the best ones.

 

[mikey4865]

Alright I have revamped the build, got it down to $700, Case and OS I am not worried about putting in the price. Let me know what you guys think.

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $69.99

SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $64.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C9D-16GXM $139.99

AMD 100-505649 FirePro V4900 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 Workstation Video Card $149.99

ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 AM3+ AMD RX881/760G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $69.99

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX $199.99


I believe in the future this will leave me the options to upgrade to these items if need be,

ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $189.99

AMD 100-505635 FirePro W5000 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Workstation Video Card $419.99

Thanks Again for all the advice!!

 

[salvage-this]

If you can make the jump in price Get this motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

good balance of price and higher-ish end features. Remember, if you change the motheboard you will need to reinstall Windows. So I wouldn't plan on changing out to motherboard too quickly, as you are also likely to have to fight with M$ a bit to get you key for Windows reactivated.

I would still advise against an SSD on your budget, but I do agree with Jiniix. samsung 840s are my favorite. 840 Pro is the best but the 840 evo gives a good balance between the original 840 and the 840 pro.

the choice between the V4900 and W5000 probably will come down to how much memory do you need on your GPU. I am not much help here. I don't really have a lot of experience when you dig into the professional side of graphics.

 

[mikey4865]

The boss must be having a good day, my budget is now $1000.

With the increase I believe I would be able to get,

Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series 2.5-Inch 256 GB SATA 6GB/s Solid State Drive MZ-7PD256BW $229.08 (Amazon)

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $139.99

We have a guy who makes all our computers, I will send him this spec and see what his thoughts are; Thanks for all the advice i'll keep ya posted on my progress.

 

[Jiniix]

The only difference between the 840s (Classic, Evo and Pro) is the amount of writes you can do on the drive - and the controllers.
If you, like me, just use your SSDs to install your OS and software on, and then throw everything else onto your HDD, you'd be better off with the Evo. It has a newer and better controller than the Pro, but like I said, the Pro can take more writes.
You should also buy a CPU cooler, unless I've missed that you've chosen one.
The FX-8350 can produce some heat, especially if it's overclocked.

 

[mikey4865]

Jiniix, you did not miss anything I have really only picked out the basics I don't know much about cooling systems. Thanks for the info on the SSD, sounds like I would only need the Evo, for my OS, Solidworks and some assorted others.

 

[mikey4865]

So my computer will be ready on Saturday!
Here are the specs:

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

16gb RAM (2 x 8gb) Cruicial Ballistix DDR3 1600

700W PSU

AMD 100-505649 FirePro V4900 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 Workstation Video Card

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX

Samsung 120gb SSD

Not sure what case, $1080 total. I think its going to kick ass!

 

[salvage-this]

what is the 700w?

 

[spirit]

May as well get the 8320. It's literally the same CPU but with a slightly lower stock clockspeed. It overclocks just as well as the 8350 and is a bit cheaper.

Not sure how much you have to spend on your case but the NZXT Phantoms are good choices

 

[mikey4865]

The PSU is Thermaltake TR2 TR-700 700W ATX 12V V2.3 & EPS 12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply. Im not sure what case they are using, have never had issues before with the people that make our computer for work before. I am going to ask them about overclocking but I don't think there is any extra cooling system going in other than stock parts. Anyone have any suggestions, maybe I can pick it up on my way to pick up the computer and see if they have time to throw it in.

 

[daisymtc]

Don't get Thermaltake PSU. Stick with Seasonic 620W

Is this your work machine?
If it is work machine, it would be best to leave it running at stock speed.

And for the case, personally would get case like NZXT Source 210, Corsair 200R, Corsair 330R. Basically something plain finish without LED light. It just feel a bit more 'professional' in an office environment.

By the way, do you have enough space to put the PC under your desk? As in my office, we usually have SFF PC or micro-atx tower instead of mid-atx

 

[Okedokey]

Ok so let me get this straight, you're building a workstation where software that relies on IPC is important and you're going for AMD 8350???? That's stupid.

SolidWorks says that rebuilds are single threaded and therefore rebuilds generally will not be faster with multiple CPUs or cores. You want the fastest IPC you can get. I would recommend Ivy bridge e and the 2011 socket, and don't worry about the graphics card and spend that on RAM.