XP Home won't boot after installing 2000 Pro on 2nd hard drive

demonikal

New Member
I took a 20 GB hard drive that I always used as a 2nd hard drive on my HP Pavilion a1110n PC. I took it out and put it in a Gateway PC that I never used much and the computer won't boot. It turns on, but nothing appears on the monitor. I thought maybe it was cuz there was no OS on it. I was going to use the Gateway PC as the computer necessary for our Vonage phone adapter which needs a broadband internet connection. My mom has talked about using the PC that is hooked up to it now, so that is why.

So, I put the 20 GB hard drive back in the Pavilion, formatted the hard drive and installed Windows 2000 Professional on it. I restarted the Pavilion to make sure it worked okay and a screen came up with three options: Choose to boot to Windows 2000 Professional, Windows XP Home, or Recovery Console. The 1st and last option work, but when I try to boot to my C: drive with Windows XP, it eventually comes back to that exact same screen and I never even see the desktop.

So, I took the molex connector and IDE cable out and removed the 20 GB hard drive altogether. I still get the same 3 options (while it gives me like 20 seconds to make a choice), but it still won't boot to XP. So then I put the hard drive back in and chose the 2000 Pro option and removed the drive, the D: drive, using the Add/Remove Hardware Wizard in the Control Panel. After that, took the hard drive out and still the same stupid problem. At this point, I'm not even worried about getting the hard drive to get recognized by the Gateway PC anymore. I just want to figure out what the problem is with my Pavilion so I can use it again.

There are none of those fuse covers on the back of the 20 gig hard drive. It's on the second IDE connector coming from the DVD drive. And the main hard drive, the C: hard drive (160 GB), is set to "cable select" I think and is attached to a different IDE connector on the motherboard.

What did I do wrong or what do I need to do?

Thanks.

P.S. Sorry this is so long, but I wanted to be as specific as possible so that it might make it easier for someone on here to help.
 

JHM

banned
I always use partition magic to setup dual boots. Windopes can't be trusted to do it right. I KNOW for a fact that when I setup WIN98-SE - WINXP-PRO dualboot, using standard "Windopes" methods instead of "Partition Magic" XP always sticks its big fat nose, (NTLDR), and big fat butt, (Pagefile.sys), in the WIN98-SE partition, which doesn't do 98 any good. Using Partition Magic and following the right proceedure, keeps both OSs in their cages, and unaware of each others existance.
 

demonikal

New Member
I always use partition magic to setup dual boots. Windopes can't be trusted to do it right. I KNOW for a fact that when I setup WIN98-SE - WINXP-PRO dualboot, using standard "Windopes" methods instead of "Partition Magic" XP always sticks its big fat nose, (NTLDR), and big fat butt, (Pagefile.sys), in the WIN98-SE partition, which doesn't do 98 any good. Using Partition Magic and following the right proceedure, keeps both OSs in their cages, and unaware of each others existance.

Thanks! :good: I'll keep that in mind the next time I want to install two OS's on one PC. I have heard of Partition Magic, but never seen it work.
 

johnb35

Administrator
Staff member
Unless you use a special boot loader you MUST install the older OS first, in your case windows 2000 and then install XP.
 

Method9

Member
To get the Pavilion working again you need to fix the messed up boot loader. This can be done using the Windows XP install CD and choosing recovery console and then running the fixmbr command. There are plenty of write ups on the Internet if you want a detailed walk through. Trying Googling "fixmbr."
 

JHM

banned
Superpuppy 3 is an old 618 MHz AT machine that I built and customized, (Copper heatsinks on every chip on the mobo the better to support OCing, amoung other things), which with its "WIN98-SE - WINXP-PRO Service Pack 1A Dualboot" ran almost as fast visibly as this Intel Q6600 Quadcore machine. The Method I used to setup the "Dualboot" follows.

NOTE : The following document is an instruction sheet I made for myself in order to be able to follow a rather complex proceedure.

TO SETUP A DUALBOOT ON SUPERPUPPY--3

1) INSERT POWERMAX DISK IN DRIVE A. NOTE : START WITH STEP 4) IF BEGINNING
BY FDISKING ; AND WITH STEP 7) IF BEGINNING BY REFORMATTING "C" .

2) USE POWERMAX TO LOW LEVEL FORMAT THE 20 GIG (19595K) PRIMARY
MASTER DRIVE.

3) INSERT WIN98 BOOT DISK IN DRIVE A.

4) USE FDISK TO CREATE 7852 MEG "C" PARTITION ON PRIMARY MASTER DRIVE.

5) SET PARTITION ACTIVE.

6) RESTART THE COMPUTER.

7) FORMAT THE NEWLY CREATED "C" PARTITION -- "FORMAT C: /U".

8) ENTER THE NAME OF THE PARTITION -- "WINXP-PRO".

9) RESTART THE COMPUTER, BUT HOLD DOWN THE DELETE KEY TO ENTER THE
BIOS.

10) ONCE IN THE BIOS GO TO "BIOS SETTINGS" AND SET THE BOOT SEQUENCE TO
CDROM\C \A.

11) SAVE NEW BIOS SETTINGS AND EXIT BIOS.

12) PUT WINXP DISK IN CDROM DRIVE.

13) LOAD WINDOWS XP.


14) LOAD MOTHERBOARD DRIVERS AS FOLLOWS : 1) CHIPSET FUNCTIONS, 2)
BUSMASTER IDE; 3) AGP DRIVER; ONE AT A TIME, IN THAT ORDER , FROM THEIR
LOCATION IN "?:(STORAGE-4)" OR "D:SOFTWARE" COMMON\MOTHERBOARD\
K6BV3+/66 REV B\DRIVERS\VIA 4 IN 1-448 BETA\4 IN1 448.EXE", BEING SURE TO
UNCHECK ALL BUT THE PARTICULAR DRIVER BEING INSTALLED.

15) USE WINDOWS "DISK MANAGER" TO RESET DRIVE LETTERS TO DESIRED
CONFIGURATION , SO AS TO MOVE THE PMCIA CARD READER , THE MEMORY
STICK READER , AND THE ORB DRIVE TO THE END OF THE LETTER SEQUENCE,
BEING CAREFUL TO CHANGE WRONG DRIVE LETTERS IN SUCH A MANNER
THAT IF A DRIVE ALREADY HAS THE LETTER THAT YOU WISH TO ASSIGN TO
ANOTHER DRIVE , IT MUST BE CHANGED FIRST.

e.g. To change"H" to "E" where another drive is already "E", first change that "E"
to"Z", before changing "H" to "E"; then shuffle other drive letters as required.

WHEN FINISHED RIGHT CLICK EACH DRIVE IN MY COMPUTER TO MAKE SURE
THAT EACH FUNCTION WORKS.

16) LOAD PARTITION MAGIC .

17) CREATE PARTITION MAGIC RESCUE DISKETTES.

18) USE PARTITION MAGIC TO CREATE A NEW PARTITION, AFTER THE WINXP-PRO
PARTITION , USING 8542 MEG OF THE REMAINING UNALLOCATED SPACE ON
THE PRIMARY MASTER DRIVE . LABLE THIS PARTITION "SOFTWARE". (SKIP
THIS STEP AND STEPS 19) & 20) IF ONLY FORMATTING "C" AS OPPOSED TO
LOW LEVEL FORMATTING OR FDISKING PRIMARY MASTER DRIVE)

19) FORMAT "D" SOFTWARE .

20) COPY FILES TO "D" SOFTWARE FROM THEIR SAFE STORAGE LOCATION IN "N"
STORAGE-4 .

21) UPDATE WINDOWS XP.

22) LOAD THE XP "WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER 9" FROM ITS LOCATION IN D:\
XP SOFTWARE\DOWNLOADS\XP DOWNLOADS.

23) LOAD ATI 9000 RADEON AGP CARD CATALYST DRIVER FROM "D:\XP
SOFTWARE\DOWNLOADS\ATI DOWNLOADS\XP ATI DOWNLOADS\XP ATI
CATALYST 4.7\XP ATI CATALYST 4.7 DRIVERS" AND REBOOT . NOTE: This may
result in Windows XP running the "FOUND NEW HARDWARE" Wizard upon system
restart. Ignore it . Uncheck the "DO NOT SHOW ME THIS SCREEN AGAIN" box ;
and select "CANCEL" for each new hardware item found.

24) LOAD ATI 9000 RADEON XP TV CAPTURE DRIVER FROM "D:\XP SOFTWARE\
DOWNLOADS\ATI DOWNLOADS\XP ATI CATALYST 4.7\XP ATI CATALYST
4.7 DRIVERS\XP TV CAPTURE WDM ---" ; AND REBOOT. THIS WILL LOAD THE
RIGHT DRIVERS FOR THE "NEW HARDWARE FOUND" WITHOUT THE WINDOWS
XP WIZARD'S INTERFERENCE.

25) LOAD ATI 9000 RADEON XP CONTROL PANEL DRIVER FROM "D:\XP SOFTWARE\
DOWNLOADS\ATI DOWNLOADS\XP ATI CATALYST 4.7\XP ATI CATALYST 4.7
DRIVERS\XP CONTROL PANEL ---" ; AND REBOOT. THIS SHOULD COMPLETE
THE INSTALLATION OF THE VIDEO CARD DRIVERS.

26) LOAD THE SOUND CARD DRIVERS FROM THE CL SB LIVE 5.1 DISK TAKING CARE
TO UNCHECK EVERYTHING BUT "KEYTAR" & "RYTHMANIA". REBOOT , THEN
UNINSTALL THE CL SB LIVE 5.1 WINDOWS DRIVERS AND DIAGNOSTICS, LEAVING
"KEYTAR" & "RHYTHMANIA" .

27) LOAD THE SOUND CARD DRIVERS FROM THE CL SB AUDIGY DISK , TAKING
CARE TO UNCHECK THE DEMOS AND ADOBE ACROBAT .

28) LOAD UPDATED DRIVERS FOR THE CL SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY 1 MP3 CARD ,
FROM "D:\XP SOFTWARE\DOWNLOADS\CREATIVE DOWNLOADS\AUDIGY MP3 XP\CL DRIVERS."
1st) "AUDIGY---" , 2nd) "EAX 4.0---".

29) LOAD THE UPDATED DRIVERS FOR THE SOUND CARD APPLICATIONS FROM "D:\
DOWNLOADS\CREATIVE DOWNLOADS\AUDIGY MP3 XP\CL APPLICATIONS".
A) CL PLAY CENTRE AUDIGY UPDATE 06-11-03.
B) CL PLAY CENTRE PATCH AUDIGY CARDS 3.02.71 23-02-04 .
C) CL AUDIO HQ AUDIGY UPDATE 06-11-03 .
D) CL PLAY CENTRE DISK MAKER AUDIGY CARDS 1.40.12 16-01-04 .
E) CL DISK MAKER - CL CD BURNER DRIVE UPDATE 1.00.03 18-06-04 .
F) CL DISK DETECTOR PATCH 01-04-03 .
G) CL RECORDER AUDIGY UPDATE 06-11-03 .
H) CL SURROUND MIXER DRIVER UPDATE 31-12-03 .
I) CL TASKBAR AUDIGY UPDATE 06-11-03 . IN THAT ORDER .

30) LOAD LG DVD/RW SOFTWARE INTO D:\XP SOFTWARE\VIDEO\LG DVD-RW.
NOTE : This must be loaded before the ATI DVD software.

31) LOAD THE "XP ATI DAO-MDAC---" FROM ITS LOCATION IN "D:\XP SOFTWARE\
DOWNLOADS\ATI DOWNLOADS\XP ATI CATALYST 4.7\XP ATI MULTIMEDIA
CENTRE---"

32) LOAD ATI DVD DECODER , FROM ITS LOCATION IN "D:\XP SOFTWARE\
DOWNLOADS\ATI DOWNLOADS\XP ATI CATALYST 4.7\XP ATI MULTIMEDIA
CENTRE--- " AND CHECK TO INSURE IT IS WORKING .

33) LOAD ATI MULTIMEDIA CENTRE , (see above for location)AND CHECK TO INSURE
THAT IT IS RECOGNIZING THAT THE DVD DECODER IS INSTALLED .

34) LOAD THE REMAINDER OF THE ATI SOFTWARE .

35) LOAD REMAINING SOFTWARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE XP SIDE SETUP,
TAKING CARE WITH "COSMO" TO SKIP REGISTRATION ; AND REBOOT AFTER
INSTALLATION . ONCE REBOOTED , GO INTO THE "MSREG.INI" FILE WITHIN THE

36) CHECK AND DOUBLECHECK TO INSURE EVERYTHING WORKS !!!

37) LOAD BOOT MAGIC.

38) CREATE BOOT MAGIC RESCUE DISKETTE !!!

39) USE PARTITION MAGIC TO CREATE A WINDOWS 98 PARTITION IN FRONT OF THE
WINXP-PRO PARTITION , USING THE REMAINING UNALLOCATED 3.2 GIG ON THE
PRIMARY MASTER DRIVE . SELECT YES "OPERATING SYSTEM TO BE INSTALLED"
AND "FAT 32" FOR FILE SYSTEM . DO NOT SET ACTIVE AT THIS TIME !!! AND
APPLY CHANGES.

40) FORMAT THE WIN98-SE PARTITION; AND APPLY CHANGES.

41) USE THE BOOT MAGIC CONFIGURATION UTILITY TO ADD THE WIN98-SE
PARTITION TO THE LIST OF BOOTABLE PARTITIONS.

42) USING THE PARTITION MAGIC OPERATIONS MENU, SELECT ADVANCED TO SET
THE WIN98-SE PARTITION ACTIVE ; THEN STILL USING THE PARTITION MAGIC
OPERATIONS MENU , CHANGE THE DRIVE LETTER OF THE WIN98-SE PARTITION
TO "C", BEFORE APPLYING CHANGES.

43) MACHINE WILL REBOOT UPON APPLYING CHANGES. SELECT WINXP-PRO AS
BOOTING PARTITION, IF NECESSARY USING THE BOOT MAGIC RESCUE
DISKETTE TO RESET THE WINXP-PRO PARTITION AS BOOTING.

44) UPON ENTRY INTO WINDOWS XP, USE BOOT MAGIC CONFIGURATION UTILITY
TO SET WIN98-SE PARTITION AS DEFAULT ; SET BOOT MAGIC AS DISABLED ;
SAVE AND EXIT. WHEN ASKED IF YOU WANT TO REBOOT NOW , SELECT "NO".

45) USING THE PARTITION MAGIC OPERATIONS MENU, SELECT ADVANCED TO SET
THE WIN98-SE PARTITION AS ACTIVE THEN APPLY CHANGES.

46) IF STEP 45) DOES NOT RESULT IN A FORCED REBOOT, USE THE BOOT MAGIC
CONFIGURATION UTILITY TO CHECK THAT WIN98-SE IS STILLTHE DEFAULT
PARTITION , AND BOOT MAGIC IS STILL DISABLED. RESETTING AS NECESSARY,
THEN SAVE AND EXIT.

47) THE WINDOWS XP BOOT.INI FILE SHOULD LOOK LIKE WHAT FOLLOWS.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

48) INSERT WIN98-SE BOOT DISK IN DRIVE "A" AND REBOOT.

49) LOAD WIN98-SE INTO THE 3.2 GIG PARTITION SET UP FOR IT.

50) UPON COMPLETION OF LOADING WIN98-SE, INSERT BOOT MAGIC RESCUE DISK,
THEN REBOOT.

51) WHEN ASKED, SET WINXP-PRO AS THE BOOTING PARTITION.

52) BOOT INTO WINDOWS XP PRO, THEN USE THE BOOT MAGIC CONFIGURATION
UTILITY TO REENABLE BOOT MAGIC; AND RESET WINXP-PRO AS THE DEFAULT
PARTITION, SAVE AND EXIT.



THIS SEQUENCE SHOULD GIVE YOU A DUAL BOOT, WHEREIN : ---- NO OPERATING SYTEM CAN SEE ANOTHER, (THUS PREVENTING ATTEMPTS TO USE THE WRONG DEFRAG PROGAM ON AN INCOMPATABLE OPERATING SYSTEM) I.E. USING NORTON SPEEDDISK , (EXCELLENT FOR WINDOWS 98) , ON WINDOWS XP ;

ALL OPERATING SYSTEMS USE THE "C" DRIVE LETTER BY TURN WHEN ACTIVE , (THUS ENABLEING THE INSTALLATION OF SOFTWARE , WHOSE PROGRAMMERS THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED "THEIR BABIES" TO INSIST ON SHARING THE LIMELIGHT WITH WINDOWS ON "C" DRIVE) ;

THE CASTLEWOOD ORB DRIVE , (WHICH DOES NOT ALWAYS APPEAR IF THERE IS NO MEDIA IN IT) , IS MOVED TO THE END OF THE LETTER SEQUENCE , (THEREBY PREVENTING DRIVE LETTERS FROM BOUNCING AROUND ALL OVER THE PLACE , WITH ACCOMPANYING REGISTRY PROBLEMS) ;

IT IS PERMITTED TO SETUP PARTITION SYSTEMS WHICH ARE COMMON TO MULTIPLE MACHINES , SOME OF WHICH ARE DUAL BOOT ; AND SOME OF WHICH ARE NOT ; I.E. "C" = OS , "D" = SOFTWARE , "E" = USER FILES , "F" = MISC TEMP ,
"G" = WORD PROCESSOR & FONT LIBRARIES , "H" = OS BACKUPS , "I" = SOFTWARE BACKUPS , "J" = MASS STORAGE 1, "K" = MASS STORAGE 2, ETC.;

IT BECOMES EASY TO COPY FOLDERS FROM ONE MACHINE TO ANOTHER IF BOTH ARE USING THE SAME DRIVE LETTER SETUP; AND ACTUALLY HAVE THE SHORTCUTS WORK.

THE WINDOWS XP BOOT MENU DOES NOT APPEAR, AND WINDOWS XP STAYS IN ITS CAGE , IN ITS OWN PARTITION , WITHOUT STICKING ITS BIG NOSE , I.E. (NTLDR), (NTDETECT.COM), (BOOT.INI), ETC., NOR ITS FAT ASS , I.E. (PAGEFILE.SYS, & SYSTEM VOLUME INFORMATION) INTO THE PARTITIONS ASSIGNED TO OTHER OPERATING SYSTEMS , THEREBY PREVENTING IT FROM GENERATING ERRORS IN OTHER OPERATING SYSTEMS , WHICH SEE THESE INTRUSIONS AS GARBAGE .


55) IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IF ALL ELSE FAILS , GO BACK TO STEP 1). THE ERROR
LIES BETWEEN STEPS 41) AND 45) INCLUSIVE. TRY VARIATIONS IN SEQUENCE
OF THESE STEPS.
 
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