Ok, noob here needs help. Blank screen + No beeps

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The_Shear

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Ok. I've done a little bit of looking around on the webs, and basically come to the conclusion the problem is either my graphics card, ram, cpu or motherboard.
Fans move, connected to the mobo or otherwise.
so, narrowed down.

Graphics card.
No signal at all is sent to the monitor, because the led stays 'orange'.
Also got warm after leaving system on for 5 minutes.

Ram.
I don't actually know. See motherboard.

Cpu
I guess the only way to take it out of the question is to try it in a different mobo?
Can leave on for longer the see if any heat is created by leaving the heatsink fan unplugged.

Mobo.
No beeping. The computer i'm on now sometimes beeps if i've rattled tjhe case too hard before turning it on, and manuals of both computers say a beep should be heard.
So, is the case the motherboard? I know 4/5 of fark all about the technicalities of motherboards, and reading can only help so much. Not my exact scenario, blah blah.

A list, just in case

SilverStone 500w
ASUS P5K/EPU
Gigabyte 1gb 9600, passive version.
G-SKILL ddr2 pc8000
Intel E8400 duo, 775.
Uuuuuuuuh.
HDD's,(From old *Currently using* rig)
Master
Slave

Hdd's def work,

Now.
This is something I really want to get out of the way.
Regardless of what drivers are installed on the hdd's, the system should at least boot into bios, correct?
And if not, make noises to say something is disconnected.

Please say something that isn't replace mobo =)
 
Did you correctly apply thermal compound to the CPU, or did you just use what was on the Heatsink that came with it? Did you remove the plastic covering of the heatsink's surface before you installed it? You haven't reused the old thermal compound have you? Have you connected ALL of the wires to the Motherboard? there's a little 4 pin one that's easy to forget. Did you properly connect your pc speaker to your motherboard header? How much thermal compound did you use and how did you apply it? Did you install the CPU in the proper position? (arrows should match each other)


Those are just some questions to get out of the way.
 
The_Shear said:
The computer i'm on now sometimes beeps if i've rattled tjhe case too hard before turning it on,
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Thats the best line in the whole post:P.

First question, is this a new build that you cant get to boot or was it working and just stopped booting up?
 
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Hi Chris! ... Bye Chris! :P

Anyway, Shear, try to keep all responses to this Thread to make it easier for others trying to help and you trying to make sense of everything. Plus, useful replies start right away in this one, as opposed to the beginning crap in the other one. In case anyone was wondering, here is the other Thread: http://www.computerforum.com/124608-noobness-has-tried-fixing-problem-himself.html

So, in response to...

Ok, to answer this kind gentleman.(Lady?)
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Perhaps not a gentleman, but definitely not a lady:)

Er, I sorta uhm. Chose the bits and pieces myself, after making sure everything was compatible. Kinda.
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So this is your first build, I take it? Problems during one always pop up, so no worries. Everything looks like it's compatible, so it's probably a case of a faulty part or something not connected right.

the little 2x2 power pin slot thing, the atx12v thing. Does the mobo come with that connection, or am I supposed to apparate it from my psu? Can't find one in my bag of tricks.
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Yes, your MoBo will have it. There are two power plugs on the MoBo: one is the 20(+4) main power, and the other is s 4-pin plug that powers the CPU. if the CPU plug isn't in, then everything is a no-go. The 4-pin plug is usually somewhere right next to the Socket, so I'd take another look.

Is the pre-applied thermal crap on the stock intel heatsink actually useful?
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Any thermal compound is useful, as it enables a better transfer of heat from the CPU to the HSF. There are different kinds/qualities, but if you don't want to buy a tube of higher quality stuff, or if you're nervous about applying it yourself, it's all good.
 
And he needs to stop rattling the case to hard. In a HP/Sony/Dell and so on manual is says, If the computer does not start pick up and shake it violently to the left and right then try again.
 
StrangleHold said:
And he needs to stop rattling the case to hard. In a HP/Sony/Dell and so on manual is says, If the computer does not start pick up and shake it violently to the left and right then try again.
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How about.





PC Company.
Went bust over 4 years ago due to awful computers, still going strong :P
 
imsati said:
Hi Chris! ... Bye Chris! :P

Anyway, Shear, try to keep all responses to this Thread to make it easier for others trying to help and you trying to make sense of everything. Plus, useful replies start right away in this one, as opposed to the beginning crap in the other one. In case anyone was wondering, here is the other Thread: http://www.computerforum.com/124608-noobness-has-tried-fixing-problem-himself.html

So, in response to...



Perhaps not a gentleman, but definitely not a lady:)



So this is your first build, I take it? Problems during one always pop up, so no worries. Everything looks like it's compatible, so it's probably a case of a faulty part or something not connected right.



Yes, your MoBo will have it. There are two power plugs on the MoBo: one is the 20(+4) main power, and the other is s 4-pin plug that powers the CPU. if the CPU plug isn't in, then everything is a no-go. The 4-pin plug is usually somewhere right next to the Socket, so I'd take another look.



Any thermal compound is useful, as it enables a better transfer of heat from the CPU to the HSF. There are different kinds/qualities, but if you don't want to buy a tube of higher quality stuff, or if you're nervous about applying it yourself, it's all good.
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My motherboard has the pin, I meant that does the plug that goes into it come with the mobo, or the PSU.
The psu, apparently.
Which of course, mine has no such connection =)
Hmmm.

So, where do I get this 2x2 12v plug from :confused:
 
Onboard video???
Do you have a seperate video card???
Wattage on PSU?

AMD Fanboy said:
well, are you using an older psu? if you are, then i suggest you upgrade your psu also.
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might work.

P.S. - Sorry i these have already been answered, did a quick scan threw the posts :o
 
The_Shear said:
My motherboard has the pin, I meant that does the plug that goes into it come with the mobo, or the PSU.
The psu, apparently.
Which of course, mine has no such connection =)
Hmmm.

So, where do I get this 2x2 12v plug from :confused:
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If you have a Silverstone P/S it should have the 4 or 4/8 pin CPU power connector.
 
StrangleHold said:
If you have a Silverstone P/S it should have the 4 or 4/8 pin CPU power connector.
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Ok. So, I didn't know that 8pin would also fit the 4 pin.

*Shuffles off to a dark corner*

Ok, so now I boot up the new rig, endless Bios loop.
SO in goes the windows cd, and i've come to the conclusion the only thing I can do is re-install windows on my 40gb drive (After copying everything to my 320gb drive, o'course!)
And then mobo drivers, graphics drivers etc etc etc.

Goddamn computer illiteracy.
 
Ok, I am currently writing this on my mew rig :D
Couple teething problems.

PC Wizard 2007 is displaying my RAM as running at:

Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-6400 (399 MHz)
Now, I thought this RAM was capable of pc2 8000?
Even says so on the sticks =/

How do I set it to 800mhz, or, unrealistically, the 1066 it says they're capable of?

EDIT:
Also, the 320gb drive I backed up everything to, is now read as "This drive is not formatted, format now?"
Why ._.
 
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The_Shear said:
Ok, I am currently writing this on my mew rig :D
Couple teething problems.

PC Wizard 2007 is displaying my RAM as running at:

Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-6400 (399 MHz)
Now, I thought this RAM was capable of pc2 8000?
Even says so on the sticks =/

How do I set it to 800mhz, or, unrealistically, the 1066 it says they're capable of?
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It's DDR memory, i.e. Dual Data Rate, memory rated at DDR2-800 really runs at 400MHz and DDR2-1066 runs at 533MHz and DDR2-677 runs at 333MHz and so on...you get the point. The actual MHz is half the rating. You're good.
 
Double Data Rate Synchronous Dynamic RAM processes data twice per each beat of the system clock (thus the term double data rate).

This is why DDR2 800 RAM only runs at around 400 megahertz but is labeled DDR2 800.
 
Sad thing is, I knew that!
Just thought it'd show up as 800 :o

Ok, now for more bothering you guys...
Usually, this computer runs sweet as.
Plays COD4, and my 9600 barely reaches 40 degrees (Granted my crt is only 1024x768)

BUT.
Sometimes on startup, doing nothing, browsing, gaming, i'll encounter a blue screen that either freezez, so I have to press the case button, or it flashes up so fast I only see about 2 frames of blue before it goes to blank, then bios.
My mate reckons it might be bad drivers or damaged motherboard drivers or something. Or.

So yeah!
What do you guys think?
Personally I think it's the hdd =)
 
I had the same problem as you, replaced the motherboard and it worked fine. I would say your mobo is dead.
 
I would not be so fast to say the motherboard is dead, if it was actually dead it would not boot.

Did you update all your drivers? Have you double checked all your connections? Did you install something right before this started?
 
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StrangleHold said:
I would not be so fast to say the motherboard is dead, if it was actually dead it would not boot.

Did you update all your drivers? Have you double checked all your connections? Did you install something right before this started?
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I updated all my drivers :)

It's weird.
See, I've been on this computer for 56 minutes since startup, and nothing has happened ha ha.
Tempermental much?

Did I say all temperatures are fine?
E8400 @ 26C
9600 passive cooling @ 32C
MB (I presume MB means motherboard, or more specifically the north bridge?) @ 32C

I did unplug my mates dvd drive from the sata port after I installed the drivers. Had a blue screen before then, but far more afterwards.
Other than the Dvd drive, nothing has changed.

I guess I can live with it, but seeing as blue screens are bad, and this is a new build, i'm a little annoyed ;)

I must apologise for not using google, but more often than not it's a fruitless search, or it's not the same situation as mine.

Cheers,
Chris.
 
Well, I came across something interesting today.

Took out the ram from b1, nothing.
Switched b1 ram with a1 ram, everything is fine.

Now, i'm sure that windows wouldn't blue screen over an extra gig of ram it doesn't know what to do with, so this is a faulty stick, yes?
 
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