cpu compatablilty?

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esparker726

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Hi im sorta new to the whole idea of upgrading and installing new hardware + unlocking so i had a question.

How can i tell if my computer is compatible with a new quad core processor without taking apart my comp. to figure it out?

My computer is currently running-

Type of comp: hp pavilion a1477c
~Windows xp sp3
~AMD athlon 64x2 Dual Core Processor 4400 +2.19GHZ
~ATI Radeon X1300 series
~4GB RAM

Other than that that's all i know. Reading through some of the other threads i felt completely lost. so if anyone can enlighten me on how 2 find the specs and compatibility of my comp it would be greatly appreciated, and if you know a quad core processor i can buy that's compatible please send me a link.
 
No your current system is not Quad Ready.

Quads run off DDR2/DDR3 memory which your using DDR memory SO your X2 is a 939 socket and not a AM2/AM2+ so your board is not AM2+ ready.

I dunno if there even are plans for a 939 socket quad but I highly doubt it.

Only way to run a quad would be to buy a new quad PC or buy the parts needed to go quad with your current PC.

I found your system specs here btw
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...lc=zh-hans&cc=us&product=1847040&lang=zh-hans
 
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The first AMD quads being the Phenom line of X3, X4 models are strictly AM2(940 taken from server to desktop). The models to be seen out in Q1 2009 will be for AMD3 boards.

The 3ghz FX-60(discontinued early) would have given the HP model there a boost while being a 939 dual core. For the time being however you'll have to wait until you buy a newer HP model prebuild or build your own custom case where you can pick and choose what will go into it.
 
PC eye said:
The first AMD quads being the Phenom line of X3, X4 models are strictly AM2(940 taken from server to desktop). The models to be seen out in Q1 2009 will be for AMD3 boards.
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The first Phenom are AM2+ parts, not AM2. Alot of AM2 boards are compatible with AM2+ processors/Phenoms.

The first models of Phenom II 45nm. are AM2+ processors with DDR2 memory controllers - Phenom X4 920/940 for AM2+.

Then later the AM3 Phenoms with DDR2/3 memory controllers will be released.

The FX 60 was 2.6ghz. Not 3.0ghz.
 
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The first Phenom are AM2+ parts, not AM2. Alot of AM2 boards are compatible with AM2+ processors/Phenoms.

The first models of Phenom II 45nm. are AM2+ processors with DDR2 memory controllers - Phenom X4 920/940 for AM2+.

Then later the AM3 Phenoms with DDR2/3 memory controllers will be released.

The FX 60 was 2.6ghz. Not 3.0ghz.
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It depends on how you run them. Stock! :eek: who does that? :confused: They didn't last long being pulled from the shelves by AMD anyways.

AM2+ is simply a reworked AM2(940 made into desktop). For running the new line coming in Q1 2009 the practical advice now is to start looking at AM3 model boards when planning a new build.
 
well that's disappointing, but thanks for tellin me b4 i went out and bought one. Is there anything better than what i have that can fit in a 939? also if i unlock my current cpu how much faster do you think it will run? cause im considering doing that. oh and one more question to add to all of that, what is the best video card by ati at the moment that i can install on this thing? because i was looking at the ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series but not 2 sure if that will fit as nicely as the x1300 series
 
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Here is the link about upgrading your computer from HP.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...92&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&product=1847040

Hardware
Base processor
Athlon 64 X2 (T) 4400+ 2.2 GHz
*2000 MT/s (mega transfers/second)
*Socket 939

Chipset
ATI Radeon Xpress 200

Motherboard
*Manufacturer: MSI
*Motherboard Name: MS-7184
*HP/Compaq motherboard name: AmethystM-GL6E


Unfortunately there is not much you can do in the form of processor upgrades. I did some research on your motherboard and processor, I did find some socket 939 but they were all slower than your current processor, many 3000+ series and single cores are available.
 
As with any prebuilt system there is only so far you can go when it comes to upgrading anything including the cpu. Think desktops are bad look at how compact laptops/notebooks are. Once outdated toss away since you can do even less there.

The next line up of the Phenom II X4s are looking good according to the first reviews seen so far. It can reach 6.3 and remain stable at 5.92ghz when oced. http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Phenom-II-Goes-6-3GHz-98644.shtml
 
PC eye said:
The first AMD quads being the Phenom line of X3, X4 models are strictly AM2(940 taken from server to desktop). The models to be seen out in Q1 2009 will be for AMD3 boards.

The 3ghz FX-60(discontinued early) would have given the HP model there a boost while being a 939 dual core. For the time being however you'll have to wait until you buy a newer HP model prebuild or build your own custom case where you can pick and choose what will go into it.
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PC eye said:
It depends on how you run them. Stock! :eek: who does that? :confused: They didn't last long being pulled from the shelves by AMD anyways.

AM2+ is simply a reworked AM2(940 made into desktop). For running the new line coming in Q1 2009 the practical advice now is to start looking at AM3 model boards when planning a new build.
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No the FX 60 is not 3 ghz. They were not pulled from shelves. They sold out, they were discontinued!

AM2/AM2+ are not reworked 940 server sockets, they are not interchangable. By that standard you can say any socket is just reworked.

And you cant start looking for AM3 board, there is none, havent been released.

You need to stop just making things up!
 
I would not recommend a 4800 series video card with that CPU. It will totally be bottlenecked, and you won't see much of a difference from, say, a Geforce 9600GT.
 
StrangleHold said:
No the FX 60 is not 3 ghz. They were not pulled from shelves. They sold out, they were discontinued!

AM2/AM2+ are not reworked 940 server sockets, they are not interchangable. By that standard you can say any socket is just reworked.
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Production on the FX-60s were halted prematurely with any seen at vendors simply sold out and could never be restocked. AMD put their own halt on that model.

"Be among the first to get your hands on six new outstanding performance motherboards based on the diversity of AMD’s newest 940-pin Socket AM2" http://www.tweaktown.com/news/5526/ecs_s_presence_at_cebit_2006/index.html

The AM2 is still a 940 as you can see for yourself. The die size had to be changed while AMD still worked off of the same 940pin platform for a desktop board to replace the 939s.
 
PC eye said:
Production on the FX-60s were halted prematurely with any seen at vendors simply sold out and could never be restocked. AMD put their own halt on that model.

"Be among the first to get your hands on six new outstanding performance motherboards based on the diversity of AMD’s newest 940-pin Socket AM2" http://www.tweaktown.com/news/5526/ecs_s_presence_at_cebit_2006/index.html

The AM2 is still a 940 as you can see for yourself. The die size had to be changed while AMD still worked off of the same 940pin platform for a desktop board to replace the 939s.
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Right it was discontinued:D. It wasnt pulled from shelves like you said.

I never said the AM2/+ boards were not 940 pin. But they are not interchangeable, different pin layout.
 
They had to rearrange that as well as alter the physical die size enough to avoid simply being able to plug the wrong type in. A desktop cpu would see a different layout from a server type as a rule anyways.

On the last build I was looking into an FX-60 there when coming across a report on AMD deciding to halt all production early with some sources getting a recall. Newegg simply sold out the few they had instock at the time.
 
PC eye said:
They had to rearrange that as well as alter the physical die size enough to avoid simply being able to plug the wrong type in. A desktop cpu would see a different layout from a server type as a rule anyways.

On the last build I was looking into an FX-60 there when coming across a report on AMD deciding to halt all production early with some sources getting a recall. Newegg simply sold out the few they had instock at the time.
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They didnt alter the die size. The Athlon and Opteron had the same core, same size. Slight difference in the memory controller, but the same core.

What is it with you and the FX 60. I installed quite a few FX 60 and AM2 FX 62. The FX 60 did not have its production pulled early, they didnt pull anything. They sold ever last one they made. The whole production of 939 was ended when AM2 was released. The FX 62 AM2 was discontinued after the F3 stepping was released.

If you want to wait around and buy something after its been discontinued, dont try to claim they pulled it off shelves to make yourself feel better.
 
Then ask yourself why did the FX-60 disappear from the shelves prior to any other 939 model? There was a little more to it there then just ending the 939 series.

The report went into mentioning that the last shipments of that model were recalled and not any already stocked at newegg or any other vendor since they were ending it while still seeing production going on the rest up until they planned to introduce the newer AM2 line. When planning to order newegg had already sold the last one they had by that time.

Now as far as the FX-60 seeing 3ghz and my mentioning of depending on "how you run it" like not stock you should have really paid attention to the benchmarks at the time. Fortunately I was able dig up one article just for you! to read and weep over. aaawwww... you will have to scroll down the page a little if you can manage that at http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-athlon-fx-60-dual-core-assault,1204-2.html
 
Then ask yourself why did the FX-60 disappear from the shelves prior to any other 939 model?
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<cough>Unlocked multiplier<cough> Supply and demand. People wanted them. I'd ask if you were retarded for not realizing, but...well...yeah...:rolleyes:

Now as far as the FX-60 seeing 3ghz and my mentioning of depending on "how you run it" like not stock you should have really paid attention to the benchmarks at the time. Fortunately I was able dig up one article just for you! to read and weep over.
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I for one fail to see where your 3.0 Ghz stock speed is referenced. Are you referring to the BIOS image...? :chuckles softly: No matter what you article you dig up, the fact remains that they were 2-point-flarking-6 Ghz...

Two...

Point...

Six...

2.60...

Referenced from your own 'proof':
AMD Athlon 64 FX Series
Socket 939 Clock L2 Cache Core Process
FX-60 Dual 2.60 GHz 1 MB Toledo 90 nm
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http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2006/01/10/amd_athlon_fx_60_dual_core_assault/cpuz_fx60.gif
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This is hilarious, now we are reaching into the realm of overclocking to side track the issue. This is like arguing with a MPD.

He is just side tracking. Dont have any idea what the unlocked X of the FX 60 has to do with anything.

Stick with the statements you made, dont try to reword what you said.

You said - (The 3ghz FX-60(discontinued early) would have given the HP model there a boost while being a 939 dual core.) It is not.

You said it was (Pulled from shelves). It was not.
 
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