Intel's Core Brand Product Placement

I wonder how many sockets they'll have to support. Since the i3 line will be 775, i7 is 1366, and i5 is whatever.
 
Are all these sockets really necessary? Couldn't they just create one that offers massive bandwidth and just not use all the pins with the lesser CPU's?
 
Well, the i9 is compatible with LGA 1366, so that's one new one we won't have to worry about. 6 cores! How much of a dent will this put in the wallet???
 
Bodaggit23 said:
Well look at that.

I guess all the people that said the 775 would be EOL may be wrong.?

Long live the 775! :D
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I hope that's sarcasm. The i5 is mid-range, and doesn't appeal because of an onboard gpu and only allows 1 pci-e x16 lane. The i3 is low-end, like the new version of the celeron. So, yes, the 775 will linger on as a low end option for buyers, but offers nothing for enthusiasts.
 
Ethan3.14159 said:
I hope that's sarcasm. The i5 is mid-range, and doesn't appeal because of an onboard gpu and only allows 1 pci-e x16 lane. The i3 is low-end, like the new version of the celeron. So, yes, the 775 will linger on as a low end option for buyers, but offers nothing for enthusiasts.
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pretty much dead.

i can't wait for AMD to start raping again.
 
Ethan3.14159 said:
I hope that's sarcasm. The i5 is mid-range, and doesn't appeal because of an onboard gpu and only allows 1 pci-e x16 lane. The i3 is low-end, like the new version of the celeron. So, yes, the 775 will linger on as a low end option for buyers, but offers nothing for enthusiasts.
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You're calling the Socket 775 Core 2 Quads low end?

Most people aren't enthusiasts anyway.
 
Bodaggit23 said:
You're calling the Socket 775 Core 2 Quads low end?

Most people aren't enthusiasts anyway.
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I'm saying that Intel won't be releasing anything but rebranded Celeron's and C2D's for 775, which is low end. C2Q isn't low end, but it's certainly not a viable option for any consumer anymore.

Intel have kinda shot themselves in the foot with all of these different sockets. I definitely prefer the gradual change AMD is doing. My motherboard supports AM2, AM2+, and AM3 with a BIOS update. I don't have to worry about new sockets for a while or rebuilding a whole system unless I want DDR3.
 
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Bodaggit23 said:
Well look at that.

I guess all the people that said the 775 would be EOL may be wrong.?

Long live the 775! :D
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Where do you see 775 cpu's except the current wolfdale/penryn/yorkfields? All the others appear to be 989, 1156, and 1366 if im reading the chart right...
 
Ethan3.14159 said:
I'm saying that Intel won't be releasing anything but rebranded Celeron's and C2D's for 775, which is low end. C2Q isn't low end, but it's certainly not a viable option for any consumer anymore.
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Why are they not viable? You'd chose a Celeron over a C2Q?

I guess I don't understand what you're saying.

Also, I think AMD is limiting their progress by sticking to the same socket.?

bomberboysk said:
Where do you see 775 cpu's except the current wolfdale/penryn/yorkfields? All the others appear to be 989, 1156, and 1366 if im reading the chart right...
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I was only saying that the 775 may live longer than a lot of people thought.
Yes, rebranded, but still offering the chips.

Nothing wrong with a Core i3 (Core 2 Quad) right?
Seems to me they would fall off into budget range.
 
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Bodaggit23 said:
Why are they not viable? You'd chose a Celeron over a C2Q?

I guess I don't understand what you're saying.

Also, I think AMD is limiting their progress by sticking to the same socket.?

I was only saying that the 775 may live longer than a lot of people thought.
Yes, rebranded, but still offering the chips.

Nothing wrong with a Core i3 (Core 2 Quad) right?
Seems to me they would fall off into budget range.
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i3 chips are rebranded C2D, meant to compete with the Athlon II. The i5 are rebranded C2Q meant to compete with the Phenom II. The i7 and i9 are in a league of their own at the top.

I'm also fairly certain that the i3 chips won't run on 775 anyway, but on 9xx something. My point is that there is no point in buying a 775 system anymore when there's the Phenom II and i5. The 775 has had it's day.

I don't think AMD are limiting themselves. They are making a smooth transition that will keep a loyal customer base.
 
Ethan3.14159 said:
i3 chips are rebranded C2D, meant to compete with the Athlon II. The i5 are rebranded C2Q meant to compete with the Phenom II. The i7 and i9 are in a league of their own at the top.

I'm also fairly certain that the i3 chips won't run on 775 anyway, but on 9xx something. My point is that there is no point in buying a 775 system anymore when there's the Phenom II and i5. The 775 has had it's day.

I don't think AMD are limiting themselves. They are making a smooth transition that will keep a loyal customer base.
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I agree, as now intel is transitioning to qpi over the fsb.
 
Bodaggit23 said:
You're calling the Socket 775 Core 2 Quads low end?

Most people aren't enthusiasts anyway.
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exactly. let's face it: only people with fat wallets can be enthusiasts. :(
And that's why i have a socket 775 board. Intel progresses too fast. If i buy a top of the line system from intel, it will be oudated in 6 months. But if i buy an AMD top of the line system, it will be outdated in about a year and a half.
Catch my drift?
 
Ethan3.14159 said:
i3 chips are rebranded C2D..
The i5 are rebranded C2Q.

I'm also fairly certain that the i3 chips won't run on 775 anyway, but on 9xx something.
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Where are you getting this from? According to the chart, the Core 2 Quads clearly fall under the i3 category.?

Also, how can you "rebrand" a cpu and then assume it will run in a different socket? lol
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Bodaggit23 said:
Also, I think AMD is limiting their progress by sticking to the same socket.?
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Its really stupid having a Socket and chipset that supports everything from the slowest Sempron all the way to the Phenom II X4 955:rolleyes:

Explain how it limits there progress. Tell me how the Pin layout will limit there progress, not what you think but how you would change the pin layout to improve the progress/performance.

Which pin controls what fuction and how you would improve it or by what pin change you think would be better.

It really would make things better if you needed one Socket board for a Sempron. Another Socket for the X2, then another Socket for the X4. But then again you need 2 different sockets for the 65nm. and the 45nm.

This is nothing but a money game for Intel, if you want to upgrade to the next performance level buy this processor and get another board with another one of our chipsets. (Sticks you in a category if you upgrade you have to buy a new board and CPU) If AMD did this Intel Fanboys would be the first to say how retarted it was and how it would destory AMD.
 
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Apparently you didn't notice the question mark at the end of my sentence.?

I don't know for sure, I was kind of asking.

Doesn't it make sense that you can only get so much electricity and data
through "X" amount of pins?

Apparently you think the AM3 socket will eventually compete with Nehalem.?
 
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