I Heard This Garbage Today from a Computer Technician

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I know this guy has been a computer technician for many years. In the past I have gone to him for advice and bought an occasional item from him. Today he told me that one in ten AMD processors fail within the first year. How can someone who has been in this industry so long be so ignorant of Advanced Micro Devices processors?

I know the failure rate is not this high. I believe less than 1 in 5,000 AMD processors are defective when released from their factories to sell on the market.

What is the failure rate for AMD versus Intel processors? I have heard it is about 1 in 10,000 processors released from AMD and Intel are defective when released to the market.
 
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I have no idea, but its not 1 in 10. Thats almost a joke, well no that is a joke. Been buying them since the K5 and never got one DOA/or went out other then something I did myself. Intel either. Most people that claim they got a DOA, either had a board that didnt support it or had the wrong bios. But like said, its probably 1 in thousands.
 
Wow... That guy should not be doing what he's doing. He's probably a fan boy or something..

I hate it when you walk into a computer store and you can tell that the employees that work there are clearly not educated in Computers.
 
aviation_man said:
I hate it when you walk into a computer store and you can tell that the employees that work there are clearly not educated in Computers.
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I can tell he has been around computers for quite some time. He likely just refuses to work with AMD central processing units and is therefore ignorant of AMD. He should come and hang out on ComputerForum.com for a while and get a little more exposure to what is going on in the world.
 
its true

actually i believe it is true,

most refurbished computers are amd based so most people return them and it gets fixed so when would someone return it if it isn't good
 
2048Megabytes said:
I can tell he has been around computers for quite some time. He likely just refuses to work with AMD central processing units and is therefore ignorant of AMD. He should come and hang out on ComputerForum.com for a while and get a little more exposure to what is going on in the world.
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He should. Tell him to join and start a thread called "AMD vs Intel" lol.


james_he007 said:
actually i believe it is true,

most refurbished computers are amd based so most people return them and it gets fixed so when would someone return it if it isn't good
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Did you not read the above posts? At that rate, AMD would be absolutely nothing. AMD wouldn't have a name for themselves.
Refurbished is refurbished - there is a chance that you'd have to return it if it had an Intel CPU in it too.
 
That's false. In fact, i just went out to fry's and bought 10 AMD Processors. I tried them all, one by one, and guess what, all of them worked. What a BS claim.
 
Anybody experienced with computer will tell you that that information is false.
Yes, there is such a thing as a processor being DOA, but that's rare, and guess what, both AMD and Intel produce DOA processors every once in a while.

Most people that claim they got a DOA, either had a board that didnt support it or had the wrong bios.
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2048Megabytes said:
I know this guy has been a computer technician for many years. In the past I have gone to him for advice and bought an occasional item from him. Today he told me that one in ten AMD processors fail within the first year.
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Well obviously even you knew at the time this is incorrect.
But what was the context of the conversation exactly?
Was it something on the lines of 1 in every 10 AMDs returned faulty have been found to be at fault? And the other 9 are operator faults
Because if you look at this from AMD return scenario then it is likely correct
It all depends on how it was meant in conversation ;)
 
kimsland said:
Well obviously even you knew at the time this is incorrect.
But what was the context of the conversation exactly?
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The conversation went like this. I told him that I was looking for a Socket AM2+ AMD Phenom Processor and he said he said he did not have any. He then stated he did have one Athlon 3800+ Dual-Core. In the course of the conversation he told me that 1 in every 10 AMD processors are faulty in one year and that he preferred Intel.

I really think he believes that one in ten AMD processors fail within the first year of operating and that AMD isn't that good. In my computer studies on troubleshooting it states that the last component to suspect when trying to find faulty hardware is the processor.

I do have one other question. Do most modern Intel processors (2008 and later) have a throttling feature to keep the chip from being damaged? I am not aware of AMD processors having any throttling features built on their chips.
 
So people have had CPU's actually die on them and they can confirm the failure wasn't related to other hardware? I know I've never seen or heard of a CPU dying or DOA. The only time I've seen one fail is after overclocking or something too much and frying it :P
 
2048Megabytes said:
The conversation went like this. I told him that I was looking for a Socket AM2+ AMD Phenom Processor and he said he said he did not have any. He then stated he did have one Athlon 3800+ Dual-Core. In the course of the conversation he told me that 1 in every 10 AMD processors are faulty in one year and that he preferred Intel.

I really think he believes that one in ten AMD processors fail within the first year of operating and that AMD isn't that good. In my computer studies on troubleshooting it states that the last component to suspect when trying to find faulty hardware is the processor.

I do have one other question. Do most modern Intel processors (2008 and later) have a throttling feature to keep the chip from being damaged? I am not aware of AMD processors having any throttling features built on their chips.
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lol i know the video he is talking about with the throttling. thats old as hell. these people took the heatsinks off of an intel processor and an AMD processor and the intel clocked down while the AMD fried. that video is about 8-10 years old i believe.
 
Everything has a failure rate, and no it would not put them out of business. There are things called warranties for a reason. 1 out of 10 is pretty high, but it all depends on the system. I know when I was managing 10,000 HP business class desktops I had several fail every day.

I mean if you use a cheap power supply in 5,000 machines the failure rates will be higher than if you use higher quality power supplies in 5,000 different machines.

1 in 10 failing could be very true, but unless you have them in the same configurations your data is moot as there are so many factors adding to that.
 
tlarkin said:
Everything has a failure rate, and no it would not put them out of business. There are things called warranties for a reason.
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That means that they'd have to replace that 1 out of 10th processor if someone brought it back to them. That means they used up their resources building that one DOA processor, and they used up more resources building that second processor to cover the first, so over all, that's twice the resources used to satisfy one customer. If that happened all the time they'd be loosing money left and right.
 
tlarkin said:
Everything has a failure rate, and no it would not put them out of business. There are things called warranties for a reason. 1 out of 10 is pretty high, but it all depends on the system. I know when I was managing 10,000 HP business class desktops I had several fail every day.

I mean if you use a cheap power supply in 5,000 machines the failure rates will be higher than if you use higher quality power supplies in 5,000 different machines.

1 in 10 failing could be very true, but unless you have them in the same configurations your data is moot as there are so many factors adding to that.
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You know we are talking CPU failures, not just general hardware failure.
 
StrangleHold said:
You know we are talking CPU failures, not just general hardware failure.
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Yes, and like I said, how can this person qualify 1 out of 10 total? What happens if you put AMD processors in 5,000 desktops with crappy powersupplies and they fry 1 out of 10 processors.

Sorry, should have been more clear. I was saying if the systems have crappy hardware, or if they are in an environment with bad power, of course there will be a higher failure rate of all parts.

Maybe this guy did see 1 out of 10 fail, and maybe he is using crappy power supplies, or there have been lots of surges in power lately.

There are so many factors to make a statement like that true.
 
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