is this a solid psu?

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Excellent choice. What's great about most Corsair PSUs is that the +12V rail (which is what most of your stuff draws power from) is all on one rail, where many other PSUs have multiple rails. This means you really have to think about which pieces you're going to connect to what power leads. This PSU eliminates that and a lot of issues people have when building their own computers. (I have the 750W version in my current rig.)
 
im glad that i finaly chose a good psu. the ultra (the one in my sig) will that be good to use in my other build. i wont be playing games on it but maybe once in a blue moon if at all since i have a pc designated for that, but will be primarily used for video copying/converting, picture editing (mildly), and movie watching, and will more than likly be on 24/7 since i will be using my home phone through it
 
DCIScouts said:
Excellent choice. What's great about most Corsair PSUs is that the +12V rail (which is what most of your stuff draws power from) is all on one rail, where many other PSUs have multiple rails. This means you really have to think about which pieces you're going to connect to what power leads. This PSU eliminates that and a lot of issues people have when building their own computers. (I have the 750W version in my current rig.)
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Even though it makes no issues what-so-ever with any recently designed unit? The lowest amount of amperage I've seen on a single rail is 18A, than works out as 216W... that's enough even for a high-end GPU like the HD5870 (I know its power consumption is low due to the 40nm Manufacturing Process, but it could easily handle the power hungry ATi HD4890 too), but most power supplies have more than that on their rails.

For example: The Antec TruePower New 750W has 4 rails rated at 25A each, but a total maximum output of 62A. 25A/300W is more than enough for pretty much anything I can currently think of.

Oh, and for the record: the 750W Corsair and 650W can't be compared; they're built on completely different platforms (CWT PSH for the 750W and SeaSonic SS-650HT for the 650W).

The TX650 is a great power supply though; more than enough for your rig.
 
kdfresh09 said:
so i was told that the psu in my sig wasnt very good for my systme in my sig. .... so i went out and bought this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

will this be a solid psu for my rig in my sig? thank you for the comments
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I am glad you took my advice, great PSU - enjoy! :)

meticadpa said:
... 25A/300W is more than enough for pretty much anything I can currently think of.
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PCIe systems need 26A minimum, on a quality single rail 12Vrail and you clearly only understand nominal amperage quality rather than the other key quality inidcators such as MTBF temp, capacitor quality, PFC active/not, double ball bearing 140+mm fans, waranty 5+ years,
 
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bigfellla said:
PCIe systems need 26A minimum, on a quality single rail 12Vrail and you clearly only understand nominal amperage quality rather than the other key quality inidcators such as MTBF temp, capacitor quality, PFC active/not, double ball bearing 140+mm fans, waranty 5+ years,
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I'll be honest, I've read that multiple times, and the first part of still makes ZERO sense to me. I'm not sure if it's the word choice, or misused/not used punctuation, but I can make neither head nor tail.

Also, I am aware of things like capacitor quality, PFC, fans, etc. But I just didn't think it was necessary to put it in the post... Also, you say "140+mm" fans, but I'm not sure I could find a fan above 140mm in a power supply, although feel free to prove me wrong about that.

Warranty time isn't a very good indication of quality, to be honest. OCZ for example have a 3-5 year warranty on all their power supplies, but for the most part (apart from a few exceptions, like the OCZ Gold, and the 400W CWT built units), they're nothing amazing, and use an FSP Epsilon build for their most popular units. This platform isn't great at all for power supplies, especially with higher voltages. If you load a 700W StealthXstream based on the FSP Epsilon platform to about 550W at 40C, you're going to see voltage ripple barely in spec, load it to anywhere near 700W at about the same (or higher) temperatures, you're likely to see voltage way out of ATX Spec. That has a 5 year warranty.

Capacitor quality is obviously very important, if you were looking for an in-depth explanation (I can't really provide one), then I'd suggest the following site: http://badcaps.net/ - it has a wealth of information pertaining capacitors. Nippon Chemi-Con are commonly used in Corsair power supplies, and are of very high quality.

Fan size isn't really an indication of quality, either. Technically, the better performing the power supply is (at least in terms of efficiency), the lower size/speed fan you'll need. For example, the best performing (pretty much) power supply to ever grace JonnyGuru's labs was the SeaSonic X-650, which clears gold level efficiency and has a 120mm fan, but is rarely used, due to its high efficiency.
 
I realize that you are something of a 'Big Dog' here on computer forums, Big Fella. It's cool that you're well respected and clearly show some inkling of knowledge that most people on online forums don't have. However, do NOT mistake new members such as meticadpa and myself (and NCspec) as know nothings. We're all very seasoned technology enthusiasts that have a LOT of time spent with hardware and research under our collective belts. I'm sure you do too. But you honestly need to calm the grandstanding down. Meticadpa is something of a PSU whiz and at the very least knows as much about PSUs as you (judging solely by your's and his posts in this thread). I would have thought that he, being able to off the top of his head pull out which platform two PSUs are built off of, would tip you off that he knows what he's talking about.

That being said, multirails are not a good nor bad thing. The common amperage for the common mis range PSU is often a 4 rail PSU with 15A or 18A per rail. This is 180W and 216W respectively. There are very few components that will exceed that power draw . The few that do are typically high end graphics cards (IE. 5970 4870x2, gtx295 that pull between 280-300w) or a brutally OCed i7 that in all likelihood will not/should not be run on a midrange PSU. Furthermore, any SLI certified PSU has the PCIe leads coming from 'dedicated rails' (which is more accurately is that none of the big power draws wind up pulled off of the same rail). A sample would be rail 1 = cpu+some light peripherals rail 2= PCIe1&2 rail 3= PCIe3&4 rail 4= non-cpu MOBO + all peripherals. This design is different for every unit. The only benefit to this is that if, say, a catastrophic failure developed in rail 2 it'd be far less likely to take out hardware on rails 1,3 and 4. This is iffy though, seeing as how few PSUs have a dedicated 12v sources for each rail, they simply run 4 12v rails off the same supply which is 'kinda' better. The single rails are just that, a single rail with a high limit and you don't have to worry about how the PSU makers split everything up onto the rails. The point being, is that few components top 200W and that 18Ax4 rails is perfectly doable for most all hardware except the high end... which is where you should buy a higher end PSU, such as the antec that meticadpa said (which isn't even that high end). 25A on a 12v rail is 300W for that rail. Even a 5970 doesn't top 300W. Multi rails are fine. I don't run one, because I don't want to have to worry about if my 5970 and 5870 are pulling off the same rail. Fortunately, my PSU is convertible from a 6 rail PSU to a single rail.
 
Ihatethedukes said:
I realize that you are something of a 'Big Dog' here on computer forums, Big Fella. It's cool that you're well respected and clearly show some inkling of knowledge that most people on online forums don't have. However, do NOT mistake new members such as meticadpa and myself (and NCspec) as know nothings. We're all very seasoned technology enthusiasts that have a LOT of time spent with hardware and research under our collective belts. I'm sure you do too. But you honestly need to calm the grandstanding down. Meticadpa is something of a PSU whiz and at the very least knows as much about PSUs as you (judging solely by your's and his posts in this thread). I would have thought that he, being able to off the top of his head pull out which platform two PSUs are built off of, would tip you off that he knows what he's talking about.

That being said, multirails are not a good nor bad thing. The common amperage for the common mis range PSU is often a 4 rail PSU with 15A or 18A per rail. This is 180W and 216W respectively. There are very few components that will exceed that power draw . The few that do are typically high end graphics cards (IE. 5970 4870x2, gtx295 that pull between 280-300w) or a brutally OCed i7 that in all likelihood will not/should not be run on a midrange PSU. Furthermore, any SLI certified PSU has the PCIe leads coming from 'dedicated rails' (which is more accurately is that none of the big power draws wind up pulled off of the same rail). A sample would be rail 1 = cpu+some light peripherals rail 2= PCIe1&2 rail 3= PCIe3&4 rail 4= non-cpu MOBO + all peripherals. This design is different for every unit. The only benefit to this is that if, say, a catastrophic failure developed in rail 2 it'd be far less likely to take out hardware on rails 1,3 and 4. This is iffy though, seeing as how few PSUs have a dedicated 12v sources for each rail, they simply run 4 12v rails off the same supply which is 'kinda' better. The single rails are just that, a single rail with a high limit and you don't have to worry about how the PSU makers split everything up onto the rails. The point being, is that few components top 200W and that 18Ax4 rails is perfectly doable for most all hardware except the high end... which is where you should buy a higher end PSU, such as the antec that meticadpa said (which isn't even that high end). 25A on a 12v rail is 300W for that rail. Even a 5970 doesn't top 300W. Multi rails are fine. I don't run one, because I don't want to have to worry about if my 5970 and 5870 are pulling off the same rail. Fortunately, my PSU is convertible from a 6 rail PSU to a single rail.
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:D

Indeed.

We all have lots of posts on OCN (and a fair amount of rep too!), so we're not exactly new to the computer scene.
 
meticadpa said:
ut most power supplies have more than that on their rails.

For example: The Antec TruePower New 750W has 4 rails rated at 25A each, but a total maximum output of 62A. 25A/300W is more than enough for pretty much anything I can currently think of.
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ok, it has 4 rails. but it can not supply 25 amps to all of them at the same time, because 12v x 25a = 300w. you cant just multiply that by 4 because that is only a 750 watt psu and 300w on each would be 1200w. just doesnt work that way. hope this helps you understand a little better.


meticadpa said:
Even though it makes no issues what-so-ever with any recently designed unit? The lowest amount of amperage I've seen on a single rail is 18A, than works out as 216W... that's enough even for a high-end GPU like the HD5870 (I know its power consumption is low due to the 40nm Manufacturing Process, but it could easily handle the power hungry ATi HD4890 too), but most power supplies have more than that on their rails.

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also, a 4890 uses 285 watts under max load
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4890,2262-13.html
 
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ganzey said:
ok, it has 4 rails. but it can not supply 25 amps to all of them at the same time, because 12v x 25a = 300w. you cant just multiply that by 4 because that is only a 750 watt psu and 300w on each would be 1200w. just doesnt work that way. hope this helps you understand a little better.
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...I know.

Its combined maximum output is 744W/62A like I said on my post.

Even though it makes no issues what-so-ever with any recently designed unit? The lowest amount of amperage I've seen on a single rail is 18A, than works out as 216W... that's enough even for a high-end GPU like the HD5870 (I know its power consumption is low due to the 40nm Manufacturing Process, but it could easily handle the power hungry ATi HD4890 too), but most power supplies have more than that on their rails.

For example: The Antec TruePower New 750W has 4 rails rated at 25A each, but a total maximum output of 62A. 25A/300W is more than enough for pretty much anything I can currently think of.

Oh, and for the record: the 750W Corsair and 650W can't be compared; they're built on completely different platforms (CWT PSH for the 750W and SeaSonic SS-650HT for the 650W).

The TX650 is a great power supply though; more than enough for your rig.
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See. I did say that.
 
ganzey said:
also, a 5870 uses around 354 watts max load. so that means even 25 amps on a rail wouldnt be enough. just stick to a single rail
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5870,2422-20.html
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...really?

That's the rated wattage for the entire rig; not the card itself.

Shinji2k, the resident power supply expert over at www.overclock.net did some tests with his HD5870 cards, and found that at stock clocks, they actually pull <150W on most tests; with only STALKER: Call of Pripyat being above the 150W mark.

http://www.overclock.net/7819082-post40.html

There you go, read his post and the entire thread. That man has taught me everything I know about power supplies...

Can everyone stop trying to find holes in my explanations please? I don't post anything unless I'm sure of it, and can back it up. I'm not sure if you're trolling me, or you're just misinformed. Either way, I'd like you to either stop trolling, or learn about power supplies before trying to call me out.
 
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Bodaggit23 said:
Sounds like your buddy at your forum really knows his stuff. :cool:
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It's not my forum, therefore I can link to it.

Good Game.

Edit: Also, your signature quote is kinda misleading to say the least. I don't like Line 6 Amplifiers, but I like their effects pedals.
 
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