First custom computer, has to last me at least 5 years

BurningSkyline

BurningSkyline

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CSpanky said:
Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129058

HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

All in one card reader http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820816001

Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227559

CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851

Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103073

Video card/psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.553617

Motherboard/OS http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.552626

Cost me $1008.87...will be looking if it goes down by black friday

$987.87 with rebates
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Power supply is good, I'd go with a 6850 though. For the case, I'd look at the Cooler Master 690 II I don't think Antec cases have cable management. Card reader looks fine to me. Switch out the Ram with something with lower timings. Otherwise everything looks good.
 
Benny Boy

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StrangleHold said:
Case, get rid of the fan in the link
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StrangleHold said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112239
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146062
Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231278
Motherboard if your not going to run crossfire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.552523
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.552628
With the extra cash you might pull of a 1090T
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1090T
About 930. after everything but the wireless card, as of today.
mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131647 ^^
cpu-free$15 gift card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849 ^^
psu-vc
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.553617
This memory is better. The original was on sale but isnt now.
StrangleHold said:
Memory
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StrangleHold said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231278
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hdd-card r/w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.409039
optical
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151176
case-os
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.546483.11-112-239 ^ ^
 
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CSpanky

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Updated...

Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129058

HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136533

All in one card reader http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820816001

Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227559

OS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

Video card/psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.553617

CPU/Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.548035

Hmmm with rebates and everything that brought the total UP to $985.03 and that's without the wireless card....urgh...


edit: this good for my cd/dvd reader/writer? don't know why they keep getting deleted, maybe going out of stock? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335
 
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CSpanky

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The real question is whether or not this will outdo a $700 pre put together HP computer with an intel i5 quad (maybe it was an i3)...I'll spend the extra $200 if it's truly worth it.
 
Aastii

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CSpanky said:
The real question is whether or not this will outdo a $700 pre put together HP computer with an intel i5 quad (maybe it was an i3)...I'll spend the extra $200 if it's truly worth it.
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It will be much, much higher quality, and it depends on the rest of the specs of the hp system.

I would change the memory, OCZ make awesome DDR2 memory, but not so good DDR3, it is lower quality than other brands.

ADATA, G. Skill, Corsair, Kingston or Mushkin would be better choices
 
Benny Boy

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CSpanky said:
Hmmm with rebates and everything that brought the total UP to $985.03 and that's without the wireless card....urgh...
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To lower the cost you could move to the 965 w/ the 89gtd board or one of those boards recommended by Stranglehold. You would't notice any diff for your uses. If it were me I'd start with the 89gtd and the 1090T but i would have other model variations using all 3 recommended boards and 3 cpu's/965-1055T-1090T. Possibly print them.
Also as noted above, the recommended Gskill Ripjaws memory has better timings (8 vs 9) than the Reapers that are no longer on sale. 8 or 9 would be ok but might as well go 8 for the $.
I knoticed that you had the case and os separate. Do you have it combo'ed? Seems like there would be one.
CSpanky said:
edit: this good for my cd/dvd reader/writer? don't know why they keep getting deleted, maybe going out of stock?
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Don't know why. There are 'save" options on the cart page, maybe that will do it. Or print?
Perhaps have 2 or 3 models from the input and see how they stack up compared to the prices/budget when it's time to pull the trigger?
 
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BurningSkyline

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CSpanky said:
I really can't find a combo with a case like mine and that particular OS...if anyone else can I'm all ears...

also not finding any good Ram options other than maybe this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145297

trying to find other ways to lower the price while keeping the quality and speed, but I'm stuck
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look at these RAM sticks:
Ripjaws
Blackline
The Pages say they are for Intel, but they should work fine. They have lower timings too.

I've never been a fan of Corsair products besides their cases and power supplies - I feel like I am paying a premium for a Corsair product.
 
Benny Boy

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CL, CAS Latency measures the time the memory delays between receiveing the command from the memory controller and return the requested data.
ns = nanosecond.
CL.png
 
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CSpanky

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Someone just wanna link me to what they recommend then as far as a good DDR3 Ram and 4 (or 6, depending on price) gigs... since they can read what the timing is and assure it's a good one? I may just save an extra paycheck and take some of these upgrades :D

what's the difference in the 900-1000 computer I built and say....

it's like $719 if you take off the monitor

• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-550 dual-core processor [3.2GHz, 512KB L2 + 4MB shared L3 cache, DMI 2.5GT/s]
• 4GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs]
• FREE UPGRADE! 750GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 500GB
• No additional office software
• No additional security software
• 2GB ATI Radeon HD 5570 [DVI, HDMI, DP,VGA adapter]
• HP 2210 21.5-inch Digaonal Full HD Widescreen Monitor
• No speakers
• LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
• 16x max. DVD ROM (player)
• Premium Wireless-N LAN card
• 15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, audio
• No TV Tuner
• Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
• HP USB keyboard and optical mouse

(that's built from the HP site itself)....just wanna get some reviews on how much mine will hopefully be better :)
 
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CSpanky

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Good. I'm still researching the Ram, the whole timing/which brands are good for ddr3, and so on are confusing me!
 
Benny Boy

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That ram that Stranglehold suggested is excellent. Excellent brand, speed,. I wouldn't give that a second thought. IMO this build you have going will be better in quality, speed, performace in every way, no matter which mobo/ cpu of the 3 you choose. Each component is of high quality where the HP in you post does not. I'll edit in a couple examples for you in a bit.
That free hdd upgrade-here's the diff on the WDB and i doubt seriously that the HP hdd is as good.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...36-320^22-136-320-TS,22-136-283^22-136-283-TS

The HP memory will appear something like this. Value rated and no heatspreaders.<--A metal shield surrounding the stick to absorb and disapate heat. And it's 1333.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=kingston+value+ram&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADRA_en&prmd=ivs&resnum=5&biw=1892&bih=905&wrapid=tlif12900496742001&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=15404728468025393208&ei=kZjkTIW9M4a4sAO2-92yCA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CFEQ8wIwAA#
Your recommended memory. High performace. Heat spreaders. And 1600.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231278&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3952373&SID=5e98mqdj1n

Relative performance-Average CPU Performance
and CPU Value. You can see the i3-550, 965, 1055T and 1090T with the 1090T pulling away from the other 3.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3+550+@+3.20GHz
 
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BurningSkyline

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CSpanky said:
Good. I'm still researching the Ram, the whole timing/which brands are good for ddr3, and so on are confusing me!
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I find G Skill, Corsair, A DATA, Mushkin and Kingston ram to be best. When you look at timing try to find some stuff with 7 Latency (timing)
 
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CSpanky

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Updated list

It's a $1366.98 build without rebates and with monitor, everything etc
$1316.98 with rebates and everything

Computer itself is $1027.01....worth a 1027.01 build? Gonna still try to lower the costs, but may save a check extra if it's worth the build...maybe overkill for what I'll need? Maybe not...you decide.

Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129058

RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303

OS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

HDD/All in One card reader http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.409039

Video Card/PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.553617

CPU/Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.548035

cd/dvd reader/writer http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335
(plus a $20 gift card)
 
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CSpanky

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Alright I'll look at it. What about my list? Is it overkill, am I paying for way more than I'll need or what do we think?
 
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BurningSkyline

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What I posted is pretty over kill I think...

I've got some questions, though.

  1. What do you do on your computer?
  2. If you game, what kind of games do you play?
  3. What programs do you use?
  4. How many programs do you use at a time?
  5. What do you want the exterior of the case to look like?
  6. What kind of case do you need/want? (Mini, Slim, Mid, Full, etc.)
  7. What kind of optical drive do you need? (CD, DVD, Blu-Ray)
  8. What does your card reader need to support?
  9. How much storage do you need?
  10. How many USB devices will you use?
  11. When do you start to use your computer after you press the power button?

answering these questions will help us make suggestions.
 
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