Constant hate towards AMD

jon76

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ok how can you say I have been biased when I clearly indicated stated that if I had the money I would buy intel. They do have the best processors however they are just too expensive this is the point you seem to be repeatedly missing. And to say something "is" the best gaming chip of all time is surely just an opinion and would be quite arrogant to claim is a fact
 
wolfeking

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the 2500k is the most efficient chip for gaming. It will have better performance than any lower intel chips, and than the entire lineup of AMD. This is benchmarked games proven. Games run better on a 2500k period.

Now, AMD does have some nicely priced chips, but that does not excuse using an ancient technology and slow processors.
 
jon76

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SuperDuperMe

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Do you have the tech to run that? I know no one on here does. Not to mention that you cant run that sort of cooling method as much as you do air or water. Its merely a milestone. Something AMD can now say theyve done. Dont get me wrong, when i upgrade i was going to go phenom 2, as it was cheaper than intel (cant find any brand new phenoms now though they seem to be out of stock everywhere) But that said (and i hate to say it) Bigfella is right. Even in the cheaper end of the spectrum the i3 2100 is kicking arse and taking numbers. Im actually considering getting one of them when i eventually upgrade now.
 
jon76

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mikeb2817 said:
Do you have the tech to run that? I know no one on here does. Not to mention that you cant run that sort of cooling method as much as you do air or water. Its merely a milestone. Something AMD can now say theyve done. Dont get me wrong, when i upgrade i was going to go phenom 2, as it was cheaper than intel (cant find any brand new phenoms now though they seem to be out of stock everywhere) But that said (and i hate to say it) Bigfella is right. Even in the cheaper end of the spectrum the i3 2100 is kicking arse and taking numbers. Im actually considering getting one of them when i eventually upgrade now.
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no, I know know one could realistically have a cooling solution to do that but none the less I am still impressed, are you in the uk, I bought my phenom 2 processor online at overclockers they only have the six core 2.8ghz on there at the minute though
 
SuperDuperMe

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jon76 said:
no, I know know one could realistically have a cooling solution to do that but none the less I am still impressed, are you in the uk, I bought my phenom 2 processor online at overclockers they only have the six core 2.8ghz on there at the minute though
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Yeah im in the UK, in the last few months iv seen most p2's pulled from online stores. Only really seen the 960t as of late. I assume that will be the next to go so ill most likely go intel on my next build. Due to wanting to avoid fx more than anything.
 
jon76

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mikeb2817 said:
Yeah im in the UK, in the last few months iv seen most p2's pulled from online stores. Only really seen the 960t as of late. I assume that will be the next to go so ill most likely go intel on my next build. Due to wanting to avoid fx more than anything.
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before you pointed it out I didn't notice the phenom 2 dissappearing from stores but I seem to be having problems finding it myself now, if money was no object I would go for this intel i7 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-393-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1672

but I know I will never be able to afford this, I spent 400 building the computer in my signature from scratch all but the hard drive which I used from my previous computer and I thought I did pretty well, the intel cpu there alone is nearly double the cost of my build
 
SuperDuperMe

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Why would you go for that? I assume this machine would be for gaming, even if it wasn't an i5 2500k is pretty much all you'd need unless you really cant wait that extra bit of time for editing and stuff like that. For gaming the sandy bridge e chips are a waste of money. Dont get me wrong im sure they're the dogs bollocks of chips. But with an i5 2500k for 150 they're pretty pale in comparison.
 
jon76

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realistically speaking I would agree with you but let's just say you won the lottery and you could afford any build you wanted, would you still choose the i5? I do use it for gaming but I don't just consider that when building my computer, I am a bit of a geek really, I like to look on the properties and see the specs when I finish building and see the highest specs I can afford, I know sad but I get a buzz when I finish building and see the improved specs. Having said that I am pretty sure I have seen a motherboard with 2 cpu slots, would that actually work? as I don't know anyone who has built one
 
SuperDuperMe

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Of course id go for a sandy bridge e, but i wouldnt need it even if i did. However in a more likely scenario i wouldnt win the lottery. If i had 2 grand to spend on a pc. Id still go for the i5 2500k just because anything higher is practically wasted on gaming. The rest could go on gpu's etc. Or a building sized kebab. Id still have an amazing pc regardless of what i could have had.
 
wolfeking

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mikeb2817 said:
Why would you go for that? I assume this machine would be for gaming, even if it wasn't an i5 2500k is pretty much all you'd need unless you really cant wait that extra bit of time for editing and stuff like that. For gaming the sandy bridge e chips are a waste of money. Dont get me wrong im sure they're the dogs bollocks of chips. But with an i5 2500k for 150 they're pretty pale in comparison.
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I thought that I had read somewhere that there was going to be a locked quad released some time soon for LGA2011 and x79. i can't remember where I saw it, but that would be an awesome setup for a limited build (quad core, SLI and the like, and quad channel memory).
That chip should put it down in the 2500k weight class too.
 
SuperDuperMe

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They are putting out the 3820 i believe and thats supposed to be much more affordable. Still its said to be more expensive than the 2500k
 
SuperDuperMe

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Im not too sure tbh :p. For gaming not much im guessing at the price point. Other things like hd encoding or w.e i have no clue :p Never done it never needed to so it beats me haha.
 
M1kkelZR

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mikeb2817 said:
Yeah im in the UK, in the last few months iv seen most p2's pulled from online stores. Only really seen the 960t as of late. I assume that will be the next to go so ill most likely go intel on my next build. Due to wanting to avoid fx more than anything.
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phenom2's have been pulled off because AMD stopped manufacturing these. Same situation on Athlon2's
 
jonnyp11

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mikeb2817 said:
They are putting out the 3820 i believe and thats supposed to be much more affordable. Still its said to be more expensive than the 2500k
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Yep, but it's an i7 so threaded for 8, msrp'd at 185 i think, and they were telking about it saying there is this weird way of overclocking it having to do with the turbo boost, and somehow it could be overclocked to like 4ghz normally or something, it was really strange from what i remember.
 
Okedokey

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Yep. But that is the end of the line. Its basically a re-release of 1356 socket, with some improvements.

That is why I constantly bang on about the 1155 socket. You can get a cheap platform now based on the i5 2500k for about $300 and in a year upgrade to i7, and then to ivybridge. Thats the best option on the market for gaming right now.
 
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