gaming computer for 700 dollars?

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Adam

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i want a computer that can run battlefield 3 on high settings with 60+ fps.
i dont need a hard drive or OS and i have a 520 watt psu but im sure that wont be enough.
i have a 1080p monitor

if 700 dollars isnt enough what could i do it for.

i live in canada
 
What make and model of power supply?

And I'll take a look. Should be fine since you have a hard drive, OS, and possible a power supply.
 
its an "ace power" psu and looking at that case i was wondering if i can get something cheaper i dont care about looks
 
At least attempt to get the PSU specs from him before simply telling him out of hand that he needs a new one just because the brand isn't one of about 6 that "won't blow up." Odds are he will want a new PSU, but it won't hurt to at least CHECK the specs, since I highly doubt you have even heard of the brand. (I know I haven't)

By the way, is there a way you can squelch members of this forum? So that you don't read their posts? I have to admit reading a comment about someone's PSU "almost certainly" blowing up and "taking everything else with it" is beyond annoying when you read it multiple times a day. Almost torturous in fact, all the more because it is a gross exaggeration.
 
Mishkin said:
At least attempt to get the PSU specs from him before simply telling him out of hand that he needs a new one just because the brand isn't one of about 6 that "won't blow up." Odds are he will want a new PSU, but it won't hurt to at least CHECK the specs, since I highly doubt you have even heard of the brand. (I know I haven't)

By the way, is there a way you can squelch members of this forum? So that you don't read their posts? I have to admit reading a comment about someone's PSU "almost certainly" blowing up and "taking everything else with it" is beyond annoying when you read it multiple times a day. Almost torturous in fact, all the more because it is a gross exaggeration.
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:)

Go into the profile, and under User Lists, ignore user.

Now, yes, I did research all Ace Power supplies that are 520w. The first article from google:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ace-...-Swedish-Electrical-Safety-Board-189021.shtml

Should be a hint of the quality of power supplies.

And from the specs on a number of units:

+12V1: 12A
+12V2: 14A

Not nearly enough amps on it to be a decent unit, at all.

As a computer forum, it is our job to make sure the users are getting the correct information.

I am going into computers for a living, so I know that I need to present all my knowledge to get the customer the best choices he can get. If I were not to do that, and make a mistake that costs the customer money, that will, in turn, get me fired/in trouble with my employer, or if I own my own company, get bad reviews and reputation as someone who cuts corners.

And as a computer forum, to boost traffic to the site and gain respect as a knowledgeable computer forum, we have to make sure people coming on the site for questions get the most correct information as possible.

So yes, the power supply is bad and he needs to replace it to use any decent graphics card, as specified by the graphics card manufacturer.

And for it being a gross exaggeration, it is simply not true. A number of topics here have been about people having a non-sufficient PSU, and having the entire system die as a result of it. Its not a myth, at all. A simple google search will also yield similar stories.

So hey, block me and all the members that think having a bad PSU will blow up your computer, but then you'll be quite alone in this forum.

Sorry, Adam, for getting off track.
 
Mishkin said:
I have to admit reading a comment about someone's PSU "almost certainly" blowing up and "taking everything else with it" is beyond annoying when you read it multiple times a day. Almost torturous in fact, all the more because it is a gross exaggeration.
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It's not an exaggeration at all, how do I know? Well, because it has happened to me. I was lucky, my parts remained OK as my PSU died a quieter death than most do (though since the explosion I have replaced the majority of them), another user may not be so lucky. I think you should do your research before posting things like this, there are many posts on forums where people's PSUs have exploded and taken systems out. If your PSU exploded and sent hundreds of volts through everything it was connected to, do you think anything would survive?

claptonman said:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16819115077
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820226191
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813128547
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16811119233
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814130593

Total: $677 with shipping and promo codes.
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This build specced by claptonman with the Silverstone PSU and the 560 Ti is pretty much what I would have come up with myself. It's a good build and will play your games well.
 
2048Megabytes said:
The hardware list looks good so far but I would save yourself some money buy this processor instead with a better heatsink:

Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge (2.9 gigahertz) LGA 1155 65 Watt Dual-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116397
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No stick with the i3 2100. It's a much better processor and the OP can always upgrade to aftermarket cooling later on if he wants to. This is a gaming computer, everybody knows the i3 2100 is a pretty powerful gaming CPU for the price. I would not use a Pentium for a gaming computer.
 
Agreed with vista kid. Since Adam probably won't overclock (Since its multiplier is locked and it'd be much harder to overclock) the stock cooler would be fine.
 
hmm is there any recommendations for easily overclockable cpus that could give me more bang for my buck, my cpu i got now is oced from 2200mhz to 27 and i dont know anything about ocing
 
vistakid10 said:
It's not an exaggeration at all, how do I know? Well, because it has happened to me. I was lucky, my parts remained OK as my PSU died a quieter death than most do (though since the explosion I have replaced the majority of them), another user may not be so lucky. I think you should do your research before posting things like this, there are many posts on forums where people's PSUs have exploded and taken systems out. If your PSU exploded and sent hundreds of volts through everything it was connected to, do you think anything would survive?
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1. Just because it happened to you doesn't mean it's not an exaggeration. That is merely evidence and proof that a PSU can go bad.

2. You were "lucky" and your parts remained OK. Just like it's lucky for most people when their PSU goes bad not to have everything else be fried...

3. Just because it is POSSIBLE for a PSU to go bad and fry everything else doesn't mean there is even a good chance of that happening, let alone almost certainly, which is usually the spewed out response in this forum.

4. If my PSU exploded and sent hundreds of volts through everything, I doubt much of anything would survive. Luckily, the overwhelming vast majority of PSUs (even "bad" PSUs) come nowhere near exploding. They simply go bad and won't turn on, cause reboots and shutdowns, etc.

5. Claptonman and maybe 1-2 others on this forum make it sound like it's almost guaranteed that using a lower-quality psu WILL result in it exploding and probably taking out all the other parts. This is a gross exaggeration, as I already said. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? Hell no. On the flip-side, if someone chooses a lesser-quality PSU, the worst-case scenario will almost certainly be that it goes bad and doesn't take anything else out with it.

The above is the truth, regardless of what a few people love to preach like a fanatical zealot. For the most part I just find it annoying that every single response is essentially the same, word-for word, canned sensationalist bs.
 
His power supply does not meet the specifications given by Nvidia. Period. A 560ti requires 30A on the 12V, and the 570 requires 38A. You said that I did not even research the power supply, which I did, and lo and behold, it does not meet the specifications. Everyone who knows anything about power supplies knows that watts and brand is not the only thing that matter.

Efficiency, quality of parts, amps on the 12V, 80plus rating, etc. If someone has a power supply that meets these specifications, then I'd say it will be fine. I do not go blindly into a thread saying he needs to upgrade a person's power supply, unless they need to.

I have never said I guarantee it will blow up.
I did not put a gun to anyone's head and say they need to get a new power supply.
I inform them of the risks of buying a low quality power supply, and let them make the decision.

As part of a computer forum, I am responsible for the reputation of the site to give the best advice I can. Just like how I will never recommend a AMD 5450 for a gamer or an i7 for someone who wants a computer to watch movies. I give them the best option. It is irresponsible to give someone advice to use a low-powered power supply on a high-powered graphics card.

You give the advice you feel is fit, and I'll give mine. If you don't like it, give a response saying that you think the power supply will be fine. Do not personally single me out for advising someone to upgrade something they need to upgrade. Worry about yourself.
 
I had a PSU explode and take out a computer. It's not all that rare, and that was an old Windows 95 machine that did nothing power intensive.

Whether a PSU will explode or not, it has to meet the required voltage to push a video card. If it doesn't, you run the risk of stressing and it goes boom or it just flat won't work. For a gaming computer, you need good reliable power, and the PSU has willl not provide.
 
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